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[Radical Fiction]

I seriously think RoxPSI is the play for today. Why is there not any discussion on this? Even if you disagree with my case, what about those presented by other players?

I would MUCH rather lynch Hida, but Rox lynch > Glyph lynch. Put JTB after Hida and put DatHydra tied with Rox.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

unvote

Not comfortable with him at L-1.

 

[JTB]

Then vote him or die in obscurity.

I'm not going to change my top vote just because you are demanding me to. If Glyph decides to replace out, then my vote is going to RoxPSI.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I would MUCH rather lynch Hida, but Rox lynch > Glyph lynch. Put JTB after Hida and put DatHydra tied with Rox.

If we lynch Hida today, would you be willing to lynch Rox tomorrow?

Or what if we reversed it and lynched Rox today and Hida tomorrow?

 

[Radical Fiction]

You're voting for a player who you've previously acknowledged is less likely to flip scum. Change your goddamn vote or pay the goddamn price. No one here is going to let you walk away on a Glyph town flip after a stance like that.

Red Ryu, state your case on Glyph, please.

I'm gone till tomorrow. Unsure if I'll be around, Swiss won't be there at deadline, I guarantee.

 

[Radical Fiction]

If we lynch Hida today, would you be willing to lynch Rox tomorrow?

Or what if we reversed it and lynched Rox today and Hida tomorrow?

I am unwilling to commit to a lynch tomorrow when we don't even know who the hell dies in the night.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I'm not going to change my top vote just because you are demanding me to. If Glyph decides to replace out, then my vote is going to RoxPSI.

If that's true, the only reason you're lynching me is because I'm inactive. I admit this. Its not the best situation but I'm working with it.

RoxPSI you must have legitimate concerns about since he's active then, correct?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I am unwilling to commit to a lynch tomorrow when we don't even know who the hell dies in the night.

Well obviously that would have to be taken into account. Its not a binding contract.

 

[JTB]

Glyph, are you or are you not going to replace out.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Not planning to. I can still get on every now and then, enough to play the game.

I would like a reply to my last post.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Glyph, are you or are you not going to replace out.

JTB, you've acted less town in all your posts than Glyph has in his 4 or 5.

 

[JTB]

Not planning to. I can still get on every now and then, enough to play the game.

I would like a reply to my last post.

I posted my concerns up here. He never acknowledged my post, however, this was during the time of the RR bandwagon during which I had switched my focus to him and forgot about the post.

Granted, I need to review all his latest posts and see if they follow through with my previous stance, but this is something I will do before placing my vote on him.

 

[JTB]

JTB, you've acted less town in all your posts than Glyph has in his 4 or 5.

Likewise. All I see you doing is putting pressure on me to switch to a vote of your liking without any plausible explanation.

 

[Radical Fiction]

You're voting for a player who you've previously acknowledged is less likely to flip scum.

JTB, you're a moron.

 

[JTB]

How about you tell me why my reasoning is wrong instead of resorting to insults.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Radical Fiction, stop.

And for Glyph, read my previous comments to Hydra.

 

[smarboy69]

Again, I commented on the things that I felt needed to be commented on. I discussed RR as well in that post, since that was the only other major thing going on at the time.

And there was nothing else of note? You had no opinion of DatHydra? You have no opinion on Hida or RF? They've all been wagoned today.

 

[Asdioh]

Red Ryu, instead of just unvoting, vote Hida with me. It will put more pressure on him and makes it more obvious his lynch can happen before the deadline, a mere 23 hours away.

@smarboy: thoughts on Hida?
@Gheb: same question?

 

[Radical Fiction]

How about you tell me why my reasoning is wrong instead of resorting to insults.

Are you blind or just stupid?

 

[Asdioh]

actually I just realized that's midnight MT, which is Mountain Time, which is 2 hours behind Eastern Time.

Which gives us +2 hours :D

we have 24 hours and 23 minutes left

 

[~ Gheb ~]

This is exactly what I've wanted to avoid happening. Now we're bickering about the lynch after wasting AMPLE time over the weekend *smh*

Radical, if you're so dead set against lynching Glyph you didn't think it'd be a good idea to speak up sooner? During the recent talk you've been less vocal than earlier toDay and I even specifically requested scum lists from people BEFORE the weekend. So much for "paying the prize".

Answering stuff now.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Hida: Hida and Tandora clearing each other early in the game.

Lynch one or the other then? I'm OK with either lynch but leaning more Tandora atm because of her ridiculous stalling and being about as helpful as a brick wall all game.

Me: Red Ryu's early defence on me based on meta. I've had multiple one to one discussions that can be looked at.

Pointless since neither of you is a play or particularly scummy. Unless you're suggesting to lynch either you or RR this connection is of no use for us.

RoxPSI: Rf's refusal to give a stance on RoxPSI unless I flip town. RoxPSI has also had multiple one on ones.

Null now because RF is pushing a Rox' lynch pretty hard now.

The only lynches that could give us potentially better leads than Glyph is Tandora / hida but even then a town flip of the one we lynch wouldn't give us much to work with toMorrow so I'm hesitating on that as well. The Glyph wagon is currently looking like a gold mine for scum if Glyph flips town and Glyph flipping scum is obviously the even better case.

@Asdioh

hida can definitely die but my suspicions on Glyph, Rox' and Tandora are all way more concrete and I don't see what a hida town flip will exactly give us to work with. And Vult's coasting is just flat-out unacceptable. I guess I'll switch to his wagon if neither of these three lynches are happening but there's little time and I want to see a concrete plan in case hida flips town. If Glyph flips town Rox, Soup, JTB, hida and Tandora all should get prepared for MAJOR flak toMorrow.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

This begins the trend of calling my case on Roxy "questionable". And yet, I haven't seen any refutes on the points I've made. I consider them to be very convincing, if I didn't I never would have brought them up in the first place.

Emphasis mine.
No. No, it doesn't. I've been vocal about it earlier than that. And if you haven't seen me refuting your points then it must be you not reading carefully or just missing it.
Post #845 has pretty much everything you need to know if you wonder why your case is weak and not convincing.

 

[hidajiremi]

Man, I am getting so sick of RF's tunnel on me, long after anyone but asidoh seems intent on voting me. I'm also getting sick of his attitude. And if I say any more than that right now, I'm likely to be as rude as the kind of player I don't like.

 

[hidajiremi]

It's anti-town to be as inactive as Glyph was.

That's basically where I am.

lol'd

Glad I could bring a smile to your day.

Yes, I faked breaking my laptop, all but disappeared from the internet, and publicly stated it was broken in other mafia games and other threads all to hide in a mafia game.

So, you were able to post other places with a broken laptop, but not here? Or you had access to another computer, where you still posted to other places but not here? Either way, it's a dodge. You could have posted here to let us know you were V/LA, or that you were having computer problems, or something. Either way, you basically made a big post and then completely disappeared.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

That's basically where I am.



Glad I could bring a smile to your day.



So, you were able to post other places with a broken laptop, but not here? Or you had access to another computer, where you still posted to other places but not here? Either way, it's a dodge. You could have posted here to let us know you were V/LA, or that you were having computer problems, or something. Either way, you basically made a big post and then completely disappeared.

....

You realize I DID make a post, right?

The one about my dog breaking my computer?

 

[hidajiremi]

....

You realize I DID make a post, right?

The one about my dog breaking my computer?

Crap. Didn't see it. My point is withdrawn. Putting my vote back where it belongs then.

Unvote
Vote RoxPSI

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Emphasis mine.
No. No, it doesn't. I've been vocal about it earlier than that. And if you haven't seen me refuting your points then it must be you not reading carefully or just missing it.
Post #845 has pretty much everything you need to know if you wonder why your case is weak and not convincing.

Gheb you seem to have fact and opinion mixed up. You disagree with my points, and I maintain that they have validity. I think making a post from a scum mindset is scummy and you don't, or you disagree with my choice of posts. I want more people's opinions on the actual information I presented, rather than the length/timing of the post I saw commented on.

 

[Purple]

I'm sorry, but I really have no idea what's going on. Not like i'm not paying attention, but I really think that with how much we're switching wagons

unvote

:|

Why don't we kill Tandora?

 

[DatHydra]

DatHydra, I think I can see what you are thinking. However, what benefit do you see from keeping Glyph in the game? Isn't it a safer lynch to do away with someone (who is null) who is not going to be contributing much at all than someone (who is scum) who may lead us to other scum?

Yes, it is the safer lynch. Safer isn't necessarily better though.

The problem I have with this is that you assume scum are going to play badly.

Yes, they /might/ lead us to other scum. But if they're playing well, they'll also cause mislynches. A good active scum player is a lot more dangerous than an inactive player.

@Gheb

I'm confident enough on my read on RoxPSI to take the risk of a town flip occuring. I understand if that confidence isn't shared though.

In terms of Hida/Tandora, I'm not as confident in my read. I'd have to think about this one.


I can see why the Glyph lynch is the safe option.


Obviously I'd still prefer my scum reads as lynches, but a Glyph lynch is acceptable as an alternative now, as long as we look into those leads on a town-flip.

 

[Purple]

I like how confident everyone is in lynching scum this game. You should never be okay with the risk of a town flip. :|

 

[Swiss]

Skimmed.

Seriously confident in Glyph being town off that 1st post, haven't read scum into his other posts. Lynch Hida or whoever Ryker says.

 

[Asdioh]

current votecount if i counted correctly: Glyph 5, RoxPSI 4, Hida 2.
Lynch Tandora? She has 0 votes currently so good luck getting that many in about 14 hours lol.

Crap. Didn't see it. My point is withdrawn. Putting my vote back where it belongs then.

Unvote
Vote RoxPSI

How could you possibly NOT see it? It was stated and then directly quoted at least once, and mentioned a few times.

Why aren't people voting for you?!?!

 

[Purple]

Dude, that's what started us on Glyph in the first place lol

 

[RoxPSI]

vote: Hida

 

[Asdioh]

I haven't noticed Glyph skimming and missing obvious stuff, despite his forced inactivity. >_>

 

[JTB]

Yes, it is the safer lynch. Safer isn't necessarily better though.

The problem I have with this is that you assume scum are going to play badly.

Yes, they /might/ lead us to other scum. But if they're playing well, they'll also cause mislynches. A good active scum player is a lot more dangerous than an inactive player.

Actually, I completely agree with this.

unvote

 

[Asdioh]

Actually, I completely agree with this.

unvote

And what are you going to follow that up with?

 

[JTB]

I just woke up and saw DH's post, but I haven't had a chance to go back and review other people's posts. Mainly going to focus on RoxPSI since I already had a scum stance on him, but Hida is also someone of interest.

 

[DatHydra]

I believe that:
-A Hida lynch will give us more leads than Glyph if he doesn't turn out to be scum.

What leads do we get on a Hida town flip?

If you convince me on this one I'll vote Hida.