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[Tandora]

Putting him @L-1 in such a rapid succession doesn't seem troublesome to you? Tandora has skipped a lot of discussion and for somebody who claims to be rereading and answering stuff her last post looked rather skimmy than caught up. She has a lot to respond to first before setting up the hammer for smar.

She's definitely not in a position to make such a "penultimate" move.

When I voted, I read it as me putting him at L-2.

And you're right, I'm not playing at my best. I had a snag in game that I'm trying to deal with, but in the meantime it's caused me to stumble on good play.

But with two days left before hammer, what's wrong with setting up a potentional hammer? You notice how Glyph has felt no pressure to claim despite his votes being so close to death and the deadline is looming?

Hey guys

unvote

I want to confirm something with Tandora, this might be reaching on a psychological level, but can anyone explain this statement?


Note that she calls Gheb town, but doesn't refer to Jiremi being town as well. This might be her potentially slipping? It really does feel like a stretch, but I'd think that the statement would've been worded like "I agree. Gheb, since I've gotten a town read off of you and Jiremi, I'm gonna go on the Glyph wagon."

-Roxy
:202

My intent was "I think Gheb is town so I trust that his push for Glyph is a legit move. Also Gheb has a point in that we need to start pushing for a wagon. Since my other choice is someone I consider town, I would go with the choice."

Yeah. I can't remember how the Glyph bandwagon started, but now that I know we have another 24 hours... I don't know. I was really hoping for a Hida lynch because I have a much stronger feeling about him, but for some reason nobody wants to follow that even though they also have suspicions about him.

I believe that:
-A Hida lynch is more likely to end up as a scum flip than Glyph
-A Hida lynch will give us more leads than Glyph if he doesn't turn out to be scum.

Do you still agree with this? Will you vote Hida with- *looks at vote count* oh, right.

I'm going through Hida's posts right now, and I might comment on them later, but right now I'm just going to repeat that I think Hida is FAR scummier than Glyph and lynching him would be the better choice. I already said Glyph is kind of scummy, and I still think it's a possibility, but right now I'm guessing he'll flip town if we lynch him and it will be a waste.

tl;dr vote Hida instead of Glyph and better results will occur imo

I would stake my own lynch on Jiremi being town. Seriously, that's how confident I am about this read. And I don't commit to something like that this early game unless I really mean it.

I think everyone is mistaking Jiremi's play as scummy when in reality he's playing like someone who isn't used to SWF playstyle. We all have certain expectations of what is scum and what is town because we've play so many different games and peer pressure molds us into "correct" play. Jiremi's play is exactly how mine was when I first started playing. Since the two of us tend to think alike, it comes off as new town play to me.

If that's true, the only reason you're lynching me is because I'm inactive. I admit this. Its not the best situation but I'm working with it.

RoxPSI you must have legitimate concerns about since he's active then, correct?

1) If you're accessiblity is that bad, you really should consider a replacement
2) You were inactive as scum in the last game I played with you. Gives me distrust about you.
3) As I've stated RL Johns are the best scum cover.

current votecount if i counted correctly: Glyph 5, RoxPSI 4, Hida 2.
Lynch Tandora? She has 0 votes currently so good luck getting that many in about 14 hours lol.
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My thoughts exactly.

However, if you did managed to get a lynch on me, I would look VERY strongly at Roxy as scum. Roxy's been pushing me unnecessarly all game.

@ Jiremi, Asdioh is correct. Just because you and I clear each other, it does not mean we're both town. Scum love to make friends with obviously town players so the town player will not look at them for lynch time or use of power roles.

 

[Purple]

But with two days left before hammer, what's wrong with setting up a potentional hammer? You notice how Glyph has felt no pressure to claim despite his votes being so close to death and the deadline is looming?

We've switched wagons three times in the past four days. I see that as null considering claiming with potentially dying is just a horrid idea. Most of the people playing aren't paying attention and are BW'ing at any chance they have at any case that (gheb) pops out.

However, if you did managed to get a lynch on me, I would look VERY strongly at Roxy as scum. Roxy's been pushing me unnecessarly all game.

Bull, I've went as far as to say that you were town because of your association with Hida.

The thing is, is that if hida is town and you're scum, it'd benefit you to push at hida first as Hida would have expected. Calling him town also makes him feel more comfortable with you.

So he's new town to you, but you were pressuring him about the noob card before? If you knew he was new town, why would you even bring up the noob card in the first place?

 

[Purple]

*with potentially not dying.

Remember how asdioh asked for my claim Tandora? That's why I didn't claim either, it seemed pointless considering if you see now, i wasn't even the highest candidate for a lynch literally one RL day later.

 

[Asdioh]

What leads do we get on a Hida town flip?

If you convince me on this one I'll vote Hida.

I'll put some thought into this.

First off, if he flips scum, which I think is quite likely, it will give us a LOT to work with.
If he doesn't, then....

ummm... *looks around*

I would stake my own lynch on Jiremi being town. Seriously, that's how confident I am about this read. And I don't commit to something like that this early game unless I really mean it.

ughgghh how do I respond to this? You know how easy it is to fake it? In my first game I was scum. I played the noob card pretty hard at the beginning (spoilers: I was a supernoob and didn't even know how the game was played. I literally read my role PM and thought "that means I'm the bad guys right?")
but eventually I had most of the town willing to bet that I was town. Admittedly, this was later in the game, but if you're doing this one Day 1 wtf do I make of it?



Also, since both scummy and townie players seem to want to lynch RoxPSI, what do I do with THAT?

 

[RoxPSI]

One person in that group would be town if the other's scum imo.

-Roxy

 

[Asdioh]

One person in that group would be town if the other's scum imo.

-Roxy

Are you talking about Hida/Tandora?
Seems likely to me.

Also, if Hida flips scum, Roxy is town. If Hida flips town.... ?

 

[RoxPSI]

I hope you do realize that scum is the most likely to know town and be confident in it, it really means nothing. Scum reads are more important.

unvote

I'm really more inclined to lynch Tandora than Hida though

 

[Vult Redux]

I'm okay with Glyph and Hida I guess, but they're both really null for me.

I would prefer Vote: Tandora over either of them, and I think someone people would agree.

 

[RoxPSI]

So if tandora flips town, her thoughts were genuine and hida is likely to be town as well.

If tandora flips scum, her thoughts didn't have townie intentions, however to an extent clears hida as well.

How does that sound to everyone?

 

[Vult Redux]

May as well clear Hida now.

 

[Vult Redux]

^ above post is supposed to be sarcastic.

I realized that might not be as obvious as I intended. <_<

 

[Asdioh]

I hope you do realize that scum is the most likely to know town and be confident in it, it really means nothing. Scum reads are more important.

unvote

I'm really more inclined to lynch Tandora than Hida though

I'm okay with Glyph and Hida I guess, but they're both really null for me.

I would prefer Vote: Tandora over either of them, and I think someone people would agree.

May as well clear Hida now.

^ above post is supposed to be sarcastic.

I realized that might not be as obvious as I intended. <_<

 

[RoxPSI]

And that means..?

 

[JTB]

Vult, why are you ok with Glyph and Hida? Why would you prefer to lynch Tandora?

You have been so inactive, then you come out of nowhere and hop on a Tandora vote when RoxPSI had just said they were more inclined to lynch Tandora. Are you that easily convinced? What is your reasoning?

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

[2] Glyph: Soupamario, Tandora,
[1] Tandora: Vult Redux,
[0] Soupamario:
[0] DatHydra:
[2] hidajiremi: Asdioh, RadicalFiction,
[0] Vult Redux:
[3] RoxPSI: DatHydra, Glyph, hidajiremi,
[0] Asdioh:
[0] Red Ryu:
[0] smarboy69:
[0] RadicalFiction:
[0] JTB:
[0] Gheb_01:
[0] No Lynch:

Not voting: RoxPSI, Red Ryu, smarboy69, JTB, Gheb_01,

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Gheb you seem to have fact and opinion mixed up. You disagree with my points, and I maintain that they have validity. I think making a post from a scum mindset is scummy and you don't, or you disagree with my choice of posts. I want more people's opinions on the actual information I presented, rather than the length/timing of the post I saw commented on.

I don't have facts and opinions mixed up; you just use that as a cop-out now. Your "case" on Rox summarized has the two main points that he's been deflective [which you haven't backed up] and that he's been hopping easy wagons [which is true for half of the players here and by itself not enough for a lynch]. That's by no means an opinion but a mere fact. Don't try to downplay this, it just makes you look scummier as you're trying to sugar-coat your anti-town actions.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I'm sorry, but I really have no idea what's going on. Not like i'm not paying attention, but I really think that with how much we're switching wagons

unvote

:|

Why don't we kill Tandora?

Unvote Vote Tandora

Her last post reeks of skimming again. Ughghghgh

So if tandora flips town, her thoughts were genuine and hida is likely to be town as well.

If tandora flips scum, her thoughts didn't have townie intentions, however to an extent clears hida as well.

How does that sound to everyone?

Disagreed @first paragraph. She could still be wrong and I don't see how her scum flip necessarily clears him? I think he's still a potential play toMorrow regardless of Tandora's flip.

 

[JTB]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but would a Tandora lynch give us information on the following players?

- Hida for obvious reasons
- DatHydra as she wanted him to prove his PR role that night
- Red Ryu because he agreed with letting DH live in order to prove his role

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I don't have facts and opinions mixed up; you just use that as a cop-out now. Your "case" on Rox summarized has the two main points that he's been deflective [which you haven't backed up] and that he's been hopping easy wagons [which is true for half of the players here and by itself not enough for a lynch]. That's by no means an opinion but a mere fact. Don't try to downplay this, it just makes you look scummier as you're trying to sugar-coat your anti-town actions.

No, you do. You FEEL that my case is weak. It is your OPINION. Stop treating it like 100% fact.

I backed up my claim of him being deflective in the original post I made.

I'm not downplaying anything, in fact I'd say bringing it back up like this is quite the opposite.

 

[Asdioh]

Night of the Final Day
(less than) 12 hours remain.



I'm feeling anxious.

._. I don't even know if there's a point asking questions anymore because some people won't be coming back online.

I wanted to get Rfiction's stance on Tandora.

A Tandora lynch seems too sudden for me, and I don't understand why Gheb and others are choosing her over Hida.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

He also has the following stances:


Soup>Town
Gheb>Null
Hida>Scum
Hydra>Town
RoxPSI>Scum

To be fair though I feel a lot of those are "safe" stances.

Reading through your posts atm, seeing if any other major points against Glyph from you catch my eye

.

^^

I hate it when people go safe, they just mozy on by and go "oh yeah we all confirm he's X so i'm not gonna worry about him."

Personally, after re-evalutation my list goes:


Me>Scum XD
Gheb>Town (perhaps he just plays town, but i just got a feeling he is, i'm unsure yet, so i'm gonna say NullTown.)
Hida>Vi (i assume his self-clearing is a meta, or a stupid WIFOM.)
Hydra>Town (willing to compromise and states a fluid opnion and not just crap i have to read between lines.)
RoxPSI>Scum (looking back she was first on me just because i was acting Vi ('deterniment'), and now she has bit her tongue about it.)
Vult>Null (leaning scum at the moment.)[and yes, 'this' person i was referring to in my #972 was vult.]
Red Ryu>Town (willing to go out of the box and say i could be scum. i like that, also, he has defended himself quite well instead of just panicing like Hida did when we had votes on him before.)
Tandora>Null (leaning town at the moment. perhaps a frustrated one. has Tandora responded to Hida's acclaimed 'meta?')
RFiction>Town (Smart, but sarcastic player, not a real fan of big posts, but as i said, it's not just some chunked crap to look pro-town.)
Glyph>Null (leaning town right now, deal with it.)

any questions?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Oh, forgot Asdiohh. :3

Asdioh>Town (after reading your posts, i feel you are like...eh..70% town. but it fits the ballot.)

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

forgot JTB too.

JTB>Null (leaning scum at the moment.)

 

[DatHydra]

I don't feel like a Glyph lynch will happen at this point.

I'm seeing Hida, RoxPSI or Tandora.

I'd prefer RoxPSI>Hida>Tandora, but I'd be willing to take any of them over a NL.

Soup: What lynches would you be alright with?

 

[RoxPSI]

Gheb>Town (perhaps he just plays town, but i just got a feeling he is, i'm unsure yet, so i'm gonna say NullTown.)
Hida>Vi (i assume his self-clearing is a meta, or a stupid WIFOM.)
Hydra>Town (willing to compromise and states a fluid opnion and not just crap i have to read between lines.)
RoxPSI>Scum (looking back she was first on me just because i was acting Vi ('deterniment'), and now she has bit her tongue about it.)
Vult>Null (leaning scum at the moment.)[and yes, 'this' person i was referring to in my #972 was vult.]
Red Ryu>Town (willing to go out of the box and say i could be scum. i like that, also, he has defended himself quite well instead of just panicing like Hida did when we had votes on him before.)
Tandora>Null (leaning town at the moment. perhaps a frustrated one. has Tandora responded to Hida's acclaimed 'meta?')
RFiction>Town (Smart, but sarcastic player, not a real fan of big posts, but as i said, it's not just some chunked crap to look pro-town.)
Glyph>Null (leaning town right now, deal with it.)

Well durr hurr i have no idea hydra, i wonder who?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Soup, is Rox' your only scum read?

Asdioh, you can't see why I'm voting Tandora? Can't be serious.

 

[RoxPSI]

Speaking of which, Soup how does thinking your noob town, and instead of talking to you and scumhunting, transfer to biting my tongue?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

mine basically goes like yours, i didn't like the fact Rox just dropped her own intuition like that on me after i said i was playing a ruse.

 

[RoxPSI]

*instead of talking to you, scumhunting

 

[RoxPSI]

Soup, understand that the reason I was voting you is that you were a detriment to town; while I still don't want you endgame, I'd rather pursue someone who I feel is mafia, than lynch someone who I feel is merely a detriment, which is why to this point I've been ignoring interacting with you.

 

[DatHydra]

Well durr hurr i have no idea hydra, i wonder who?

There's a bunch of nulls there, one leaning scum.

Soup might prefer a lynch of a null over a NL.

 

[RoxPSI]

I'm fairly close to dying right now, in fact i'm the top lynch candidate? Why would I turn out to be a NL at this point?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

just stated, EBWOP.

@gheb no, i have a scum read on vult right now, i said i was leaning towards it, and Hida is more so a person that we could Lynch but we don't have to.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Basically: if we decide to lynch Hida, i won't be against it, but i would prefer a rox lynch.

 

[Asdioh]

Soup, is Rox' your only scum read?

Asdioh, you can't see why I'm voting Tandora? Can't be serious.

Over Hida?



Roxy, why the hell didn't you tell me you were female.

FoS: RoxPSI

 

[RoxPSI]

Well damn Asdioh i had no idea!

@gheb no, i have a scum read on vult right now, i said i was leaning towards it, and Hida is more so a person that we could Lynch but we don't have to.

What the ****? That contradicts your read?!

 

[DatHydra]

I'm fairly close to dying right now, in fact i'm the top lynch candidate? Why would I turn out to be a NL at this point?

There was a BW for you earlier that lost steam from a lack of votes. Your recent play hasn't attracted much (if any) attention from people as being scummy. Seems like a possibility.

 

[Purple]

But

I'm literally the EASIEST lynch today. It's more than a possibility.

 

[DatHydra]

But

I'm literally the EASIEST lynch today. It's more than a possibility.

Are you claiming it's guaranteed?

If not, nothing wrong with considering the other possibilities.

 

[RoxPSI]

You got me there.

It's not exactly that it's guaranteed, it jsut seems like the idea of being lynch has gone through at least everyone's mind at least once the past few days.