Different projectile playstyles

[Twilght Link]

Seeing as how we have a guide about projectile spamming i thought "Why not make one about our lovely spamming playstyles." Simply post the rhythm or patterns in your spamming ( considering you use projectiles). If you specialize in close combat, tell us when you do use projectiles. Feel free to tell how your spamming changes on different stages.

I myself usually start off a match either pulling out a bomb or performing a triple arrow (usually on fd or smashville only). On other stages i simply perform an arrow shot from a shorthop. I also like to use my boomerang after hitting an opponent with a bomb and then perform another triple arrow afterwards.

Note: THIS IS IN NO WAY A GUIDE! If you seek a projectile guide, i suggest swordplays's guide
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=212523

 

[Lawz.]

i pull out a bomb, start with arrows, and if they come up to me i throw the bomb followed by an arrow cancel. i also like to pull out a bomb then zair, throw the bomb into a DAC. or i just space with the zair because as every Link main knows (hopefully) that thing is so good.

 

[Twilght Link]

yeah i have a school trip for like 3 days ( staying at a hotel) so this is just my little thread that i leave for everyone while im gone XD though i doubt anybody would notice

 

[Deleted member]

i always pull a bomb out when the match starts. in tournies i spam a lot because i never approach. link has a great defensive game so you don't need to approach. when spamming i use a lot of aerial bombs while craq walking into fsmashes if i need to retreat. i rarely use arrows and i use the GB if there's a hole in my bomb spam that i need to cover quickly. since i usually have a very aggressive play style i often bait my opponent's with the zair. doing that almost forces them into approaching me because i'm slowly chipping away at their shield or just racking up dmg.

spamming is extremely easy to learn, if i were you guys i'd practice my close range first.

 

[Lawz.]

yeah i have a school trip for like 3 days ( staying at a hotel) so this is just my little thread that i leave fro everyone while im gone XD though i doubt anybody would notice

well even if it's a school trip TRY and have fun i guess...not that it's an easy thing unless ur going to an amusement park or something.

 

[Lawz.]

i always pull a bomb out when the match starts. in tournies i spam a lot because i never approach. link has a great defensive game so you don't need to approach. when spamming i use a lot of aerial bombs while craq walking into fsmashes if i need to retreat. i rarely use arrows and i use the GB if there's a hole in my bomb spam that i need to cover quickly. since i usually have a very aggressive play style i often bait my opponent's with the zair. doing that almost forces them into approaching me because i'm slowly chipping away at their shield or just racking up dmg.

spamming is extremely easy to learn, if i were you guys i'd practice my close range first.

well this is just mainly talking about projectile type things if it were just explaining regular playstyles then basically i do both close and mid to long range combat

 

[knightzy]

I use WoP(wall of porjectiles)lol,it copormises alot of different movement projectiles that defen each other,if they get though they get a grab back out,or a ridden SH d-air riding the gale,i will explain in depth later.

 

[Twilght Link]

i feel like im the only link that uses triple arrow lol i have never seen someone else do it ( i think)

 

[sasook]

spamming is extremely easy to learn, if i were you guys i'd practice my close range first.

^this

Even I can spam, somewhat. Close range is fun hard part of Link.

well this is just mainly talking about projectile type things if it were just explaining regular playstyles then basically i do both close and mid to long range combat

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See below quote.

If you specialize in close combat, tell us when you do use projectiles.

Anyways.....

I mainly use projectiles to open situations so I can get close, fast. I almost never use arrows, my spam revolves around boomerangs and bombslides. I use the boomerang to space a lot alongside the zair, and use bombs to rack up damage along with "combos." Link's close range is so exhilarating.

 

[DeTa]

rarely any other Link user uses arrow cancel, and that's what I use. At the start of the match against a player without projectiles, I take out two bombs, throw one up, then throw the other in the direction of my opponent. Somehow, I always manage to get them bombed . Zairing is definitely one of the moves I still need to master, but for now, there's always dupe walking and QDA that helps me survive. I often use my boomerang, and still want to learn how to gale guard.

 

[sasook]

dupe walking

?

Please don't tell me you're talking about that pivot walk that was discovered.....-__-

 

[Swordplay]

This will be interesting.

To initiate my spam I usually do a jab cancel into a retreating short hop and pull out a bomb. Most people don't follow because they anticipate the jab to finish or jab cancel into another attack move. You can also use zair and I have found this to be a great spam starter.

This gives me some free time to pull out my bomb.

Now that I have it its about flow. It also depends on what character your facing.

Faster characters and character with good air mobility are usually able to break the spam wall better and faster.

Against these characters it is best to use what I call a transition spam game. This involves throwing the bomb then the rang or visa versa then coming back in to space with a zair now that you have depleted your spam resource (bomb). From there you can play a spacing game until you get the opportunity to jab and set it up all over again. There are times when fighting these characters that they themselves may try to spam or zone. When that happens, try I try to pull out another bomb and throw a rang. I do whatever I can to annoy them and eventually force an approach. Examples of these types of character are Marth and Yoshi

Against other characters its safer. Throw the bond pull out another one. Because they have slow speed, you can mix up your projectile game just right so that they can never get near you. You can continue doing this and if they break through, just zair with bomb and throw it while retreating to regain your space. Examples of these types of characters are Ganon and Bowser

Arrow canceling is a good last resort for interruption and mindgames but don't rely on it though.

 

[sasook]

Swordplay, I need to play you sometime. Project spammering counters my style completely. If I can learn to play against you, I'm fairly sure it would help reduce my weaknesses a lot.

For the record, spamming usually counters close-range for all characters.

 

[DeTa]

?

Please don't tell me you're talking about that pivot walk that was discovered.....-__-

pivot walks are great for mindgames! You should try it

Arrow canceling is a good last resort for interruption and mindgames but don't rely on it though.

arrow cancel can also lead into combos. You can use a combination of arrow cancelling and bombs

 

[sasook]

pivot walks are great for mindgames! You should try it

Pivot boosting is better in all ways possible. Except the learning curve, maybe.

 

[Deleted member]

Pivot boosting is better in all ways possible. Except the learning curve, maybe.

GFR, Jv 4 stock

 

[AeroLink_the_SoulMaster]

i feel like im the only link that uses triple arrow lol i have never seen someone else do it ( i think)

You're not the only one.

EDIT- Zair -> Craq Walk-> Advancing/Retreating SH Galerang -> Zair/Bair to RAC. or (With bomb in hand) Zair -> Craq Walk ->Advancing/Retreating SH Bomb throw forward -> arrow cancel/double draw/Galerang.

 

[Swordplay]

Swordplay, I need to play you sometime. Project spammering counters my style completely. If I can learn to play against you, I'm fairly sure it would help reduce my weaknesses a lot.

For the record, spamming usually counters close-range for all characters.

But Link doesn't have a consistent spam. It can be broken through and because Link is slow you can't really put it back up fast. You have to learn to transition and that means going into close range.

If your a close quarters Link, then your already 3/4's of the way there. Spamming is an asset for you to help build free chip damage at a safe distance. You can't spam forever unless your facing a character Like Gannon or a character who forces you to spam forever like Ice Climbers (my favorite matchup)



Also Link v Link matches are lolz. Same projectiles so people catch on very quickly. I will only take you 2 stocks to figure things out. I'll be back with a connection on monday. We can play after that





Okay since everybody is doing sequences I'll list some of my own.
Once I jab and have the bomb in hand here are some common sequences keep in mind that there are many variations to these Most of them don't work as planned because of the level Often times I must adjust them.

zair (w bomb) > JTC/SH throw bomb > Rang > Arrow


zair (w bomb) > JTC/SH throw bomb > Rang > zair approach (cancel rang catch) > Dash attack (if zair hit)


Throw bomb > SH draw bomb > repeat until approach > zair with bomb > JCT bomb > zair/rang/arrow


Throw bomb > SH retreat rang > SH bomb draw > zair with bomb (cancel rang catch) OR Charge arrow (cancel rang catch)> repeat until broken> throw bomb/zair when broken


But there is no set variation. say in that last variation they shielded the rang and it is sent flying back to me before I can pull off this step "zair with bomb (cancel rang catch) OR Charge arrow (cancel rang catch)" Now I just have to throw the bomb to cancel the catch animation or let the rang pass me and end the spam.

With Link there is no set spam. Links greatest spam strength is also his weakness. I can't press B and shoot pit arrows or falco lasers (wish I could) You must constantly adjust the spam and use flexibility to your strengths and try to overcome its inherent weakness. (You can't overcome this weakness but you can get closer with practice)

 

[sasook]

GFR, Jv 4 stock

huh? I have no idea what this means lol

@Swordplay - more than 2 stocks for me, I'm HORRIBLE at reading opponents. Speaking of which, maybe I should ask about how to read opponents in the Q&A thread.

 

[Bomber7]

I'm a bomber. I love using bombs. I have gotten into the habiit of link with jumping pulling a bomb out and arrow canceling. otherwise I play a decent pressure game with bombs. usually my favorite killers are jump throw bomb (while opponent is either in air or on ground) and Fair when bomb hits them.

 

[Dark Deku]

I usally use the boomerang to push enemys and then I follow up by throwing them my bomb. I use arrows spamming while their trying to recover. I use the Zair to space enemys into safer position to throw the bomb like what I do with the boomerang. My friends hate my spamming.

 

[Onomanic]

YOU'LL NEVER KNOW MY STRATS.


NEVER!


K I'll give you a few.

My spam is full of reversals. I love reversing things. It keeps em thinking. You can reverse any of your projectiles which is amazing. If they begin to catch on, I'll mix it up by not reversing. It's a nice strat really.

Formulas (btw about these, the projectiles are going to the left so if you see the word "Turn around," it's referring to Link facing right, spamming left)
Also "bomb" means bomb throw, "bomb get" means Down B
Turn around SH bomb -> Arrow

Jump rang -> Double AC (still working on that strat btw) DOES NOT WORK TESTED

Zair with bomb -> Craq walk -> Turn around bomb

ZAC Nair -> bomb

(Idk if this work, I'm going to test it later) SH bomb GET -> AC (Like I said, I haven't tested this) DOES NOT WORK

Dash away -> Turn around Rang -> Land -> SH Bomb get -> Bomb -> AC

I have more than this lol

EDIT: I love how Swordplay's and mine are like the longest posts lol

EDIT2: Anyone else want to attempt to test the ones I couldn't pull off?

 

[Finns7]

Foolish mortals...the only true spam is the sacred **** spam, none can fathom ):D

 

[Looticforgothispassword]

LINK is better in all ways possible. Except the learning curve, maybe.

fixed

10forgottenpasswords

EDIT: uh, I spam diffrent every day, sometimes I spam until the time limit is reached. I use projectiles to build and keep pressure. I use bombslides for aproaches and juggling, in some matchups I always try to have the galerang on the feild to make my opponent think about where the galerang is(nobody wants to get galekilled after theyve seen that MK vid), as distraction. I also spam spotdodges at some occasions if that counts as spam.

@blu link, SH bombpull > AC dont work,
SH bombthrow > DJ bombpull > AC works though
I dont know how to use arrowcancels properly really, I only use it at two occasions, After a SH bombthrow and as a surprise attack when got hit.


EDIT: studied my self. When I use arrows I aim for the feet for the possibility of a sheildpoke. I often alternate rang and slightly charged arrows for longrange spam. I also when the oportunity shows up jump over my rang when it comes behind me to create time for a bombpull. When In close combat I often dash out SH rang toss to get out of it if I feel pressured.

 

[Lemonwater]

It's almost always a bomb for me. The opponent has no time to interrupt a bomb pull right off the start, and it is now a better damage dealing projectile than the boomerang. In N64 and Melee, I always began with a boomerang as opposed to a bomb.

My secondary move would be to throw a boomerang, to hit someone trying to rush me early on. Gale boomerang has fewer damaging hitboxes, so I suppose this is a less viable tactic in Brawl. Although Gale is useful in many other situations.

Third would be the arrow, if they stay in place for me to shoot, which is not usually the case.

I use bombs and boomerangs much more than the Hero's Bow. That's how I played N64 and Melee, and fared well, and that's how I continue to do things until it proves to have some major flaw.

 

[-Mars-]

How valuable do you Link mains find throwing a bomb straight up when you're camping to limit your opponents options even more?

 

[sasook]

How valuable do you Link mains find throwing a bomb straight up when you're camping to limit your opponents options even more?

I bombslide upthrow for that, never straight up.

 

[Bomber7]

here's an example of what I do. I am the TL. hold your criticism this is an old video and I have improved my bombing since. Even though this is with TL maybe it will show what I can do with link. Bombing wise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dbI5T2VAjc

 

[sasook]

I can't watch just because its TL. Yeah, I'm that shallow.....

Oh well

 

[Bomber7]

you know I can see that people would see that in a wrong way. cuz its the loss of a Link..... =/ sorry

 

[Lawz.]

I can't watch just because its TL. Yeah, I'm that shallow.....

Oh well

lousy mid tiers

 

[Popertop]

i always pull a bomb out when the match starts. in tournies i spam a lot because i never approach. link has a great defensive game so you don't need to approach. when spamming i use a lot of aerial bombs while craq walking into fsmashes if i need to retreat. i rarely use arrows and i use the GB if there's a hole in my bomb spam that i need to cover quickly. since i usually have a very aggressive play style i often bait my opponent's with the zair. doing that almost forces them into approaching me because i'm slowly chipping away at their shield or just racking up dmg.

spamming is extremely easy to learn, if i were you guys i'd practice my close range first.

Arkive is my hero

 

[BBoyindo]

Well, i don't play link, but i do play toon link. I do SH bomb pull to quickdraw. Then full hop boomerang to quickdraw, and then either sh double arrow or sh bomb throw to quickdraw. Quickdraw is good!

 

[sasook]

Quickdraw is good!

Yeah, for TL it is.

 

[Looticforgothispassword]

no more gay talk, thank you

 

[Darxmarth23]

I pull out bomb, throw the boomerang, throw the bomb, shoot arrows. Then i switch the pattern.

 

[slickvic]

i usually start by pulling out a bomb, and then using a double arrow. after that, i usually start things up with my boomerang. then i throw my bomb, and arrow cancel. sometimes i might mix things up, but i usually land with an arrow cancel. i dont like to use projectiles on the ground, because i can get some movement in the air. most use spamming to play defense, but i like to use it as an approach, and work on my close combat.

 

[Darxmarth23]

i usually start by pulling out a bomb, and then using a double arrow. after that, i usually start things up with my boomerang. then i throw my bomb, and arrow cancel. sometimes i might mix things up, but i usually land with an arrow cancel. i dont like to use projectiles on the ground, because i can get some movement in the air. most use spamming to play defense, but i like to use it as an approach, and work on my close combat.

I should try that. It sounds fun.

 

[Altaz Link]

I pull out a bomb then I quickly use the boomerang with a variety of arrows. Once the arrows has hit it's mark I throw the bomb and fast fall to quickly do the DAC. If I land it perfectly it should do around 20% damage.