Diddy Kong Racing Mafia! [Finished! Town Wins!]

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@Ran

spose it just came up, i've been lurking the thread at times but it started to get inactive, you were just in the right place at the right moment, i responded to X1 also, and i didn't feel like responding to kuz would do much.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

now i'm just waiting for X1 to constantly question me. <3

 

[ranmaru]

@Ran

spose it just came up, i've been lurking the thread at times but it started to get inactive, you were just in the right place at the right moment, i responded to X1 also, and i didn't feel like responding to kuz would do much.

Why would you respond to me instead of Kuz? And how did you know what DH was doing to you?

now i'm just waiting for X1 to constantly question me. <3

So you feel questions leading to discussion are bad for town? Is that it?

 

[X1-12]

Soup you are making the mistake of thinking that DH thinks the same way you do. To him you are posting WIFOM and intentionally making yourself harder to read. This is why DH thinks you are scummy, its weak reasoning hell yeah but he believe its 100%. This is obvious if you've ever played with DH before. He's confident because he's a tunneller and takes stuff at face value.

Why am I trying to get reads off pre-game talk, why should I not? Everyone posting here knows their role and is still capable of exhibiting tells of their alignment. Nothing magically changes once the mod posts the official Day start so I'm going to use this time to catch scum, I will be playing the exact same once the Day has started and I just don't see any point in waiting till then.

what do you want my opnion o' mighty king?@X1-X2

Since you mention it tell me what you think about kuz's answer to question 4.) in this post and what you would think of him if was mainly responsible for lynching scum on D1. Then answer the same question replacing "scum" with "town". Failing that just pick out something that you find scummy

@Ran: Don't get excited, I put my trust in you to complete a simple tasks. I just wanted it done, and I knew you'd do it regardless of your alignment if I told you I trusted you because as town you want to be helpful, and as scum you'd be thinking that your actions at that time would actually play an important part in my read of you. FYI I think you're town so don't worry.

 

[X1-12]

also @Soupa: I read ongoing games. If you are going to say "lol, gambit!" at any point in time, just do it now because you aren't gaining anything.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@Ran

because i'm not an idiot. it may either be a 'legit scum-read' or FMPOV, a pressure tool to get reads.

it depends.

constantly questioning can either be played to look pro-town, or to get answers, but what answers is X1 looking for? he's not only questioning, he's questioning EVERYONE on EVERYTHING.

i feel X1 is trying to set himself up for pro-town, so he can lead later.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

EBWOP:

nah X1

being sincere here bro-ham.

 

[X1-12]

@Soup: If you want me to explain how some of my questions were useful, then just ask. Wait till they are answered though.

 

[ranmaru]

@X1:

No, I was just testing you. I just have to be careful of who thinks I'm town is all. And I'm not worried of what you think of me, I'll do what I need to without caring about my image. Scumhunting comes first.

Although I'll have to disagree with you X1. I would want people like Tery and Today to post, so that a town discussion can get going. If Today hasn't posted thoughts in a while, I'd want her to replace out as well. (I remember that she was in KSSU but was inactive)

 

[ranmaru]

@Ran

because i'm not an idiot. it may either be a 'legit scum-read' or FMPOV, a pressure tool to get reads.

it depends.

constantly questioning can either be played to look pro-town, or to get answers, but what answers is X1 looking for? he's not only questioning, he's questioning EVERYONE on EVERYTHING.

i feel X1 is trying to set himself up for pro-town, so he can lead later.

And? He should spread the questions out. That way if one of his reads fail, he still has other leads.

And why do you think he shouldn't lead?

 

[X1-12]

@Ran: Did I ever say I don't want Tery or Today to post? I'm just saying they will start posting during the day and that will be enough probably for me to read them so I'm not really fussed about trying to set-up traps or anything for them at this point

Today wasn't in KSSU, you are probably thinking of Top Ranger Skye who replaced out

 

[ranmaru]

I'm sorry, I just thought you said you didn't care about them anymore. (Or I assumed that, the word care wasn't in that post, but it seemed like you missed it)

Ah, thank you for clarifying. Yes, I was thinking of TRS.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@X1

it's not that i don't think your questions will be useful in the long-run, i just feel like it was such a bold start for you, instantly coming out and pulling questions everywhere.

perhaps it's my experiences, but town usually just doesn't boldly step-up like that, yet again, that could just be how you play.

@Ran
i want to wait until i can make that decision.

 

[ranmaru]

Why do you want to wait? Perhaps you'd like to parrot someone else to tailor your own answers?

 

[X1-12]

Soup, will you answer my questions now?

~Also what does Bro-ham mean?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Since you mention it tell me what you think about kuz's answer to question 4.) in this post and what you would think of him if was mainly responsible for lynching scum on D1. Then answer the same question replacing "scum" with "town". Failing that just pick out something that you find scummy

4.) I plan to lynch scum on D1, I expect you to help me. Is it reasonable for me to assume that if we don't lynch scum D1, you are scum?

absolutely.

I plan to lynch scum on D1, i will keep in mind your statements, and if i agree with them, then i will help you.

if we don't lynch scum D1, then i will re-assess why that person died and who the dead reacted to or what.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@Ran

i'd like to see X1 react to pressure himself, noone has yet pressured him.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@X1 bro-ham is just..i dunno bro-fruit.

it's an addition to bro, with adding ham.

guess i was hungry. :X

 

[ranmaru]

@Ran

i'd like to see X1 react to pressure himself, noone has yet pressured him.

Why don't you pressure him?

Also, why would someone pressure someone being helpful and leading?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

also X1 kuz sounds confident about himself so ehh.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@Ran

i have btw, i'd like to see other people pressure him also.

why pressure someone helpful and leading

good pressuring, not blatant OMGUS and whatnot.

if he can lead, he can handle some pressure, no?

 

[ranmaru]

You didn't answer my question. Why would you pressure someone?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

depends on what i am pressuring them on.

i would pressure someone who would look scum to me, or perhaps looks TOO town, if you get what i mean.

any other reasons for pressuring would be just for me, or for further understanding on something or someone.

counter question:

why do YOU pressure? what makes you want to pressure someone/why?

 

[ranmaru]

So does X1 look like scum to you? Looking too town is wifom, so don't try it. Unhelpful.

To scum hunt and get answers. (info)

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

hmmmm..not sure yet. that's why i'm waiting for other pressure.

 

[X1-12]

Soup, think about this. Kuz has put himself in a position where if he fails to lynch scum on D1 he will receive a lot of flak and attention, do you think scumkuz would agree to this deal?

 

[ranmaru]

@Soup:

But you said you'd pressure because you think a person is scum.

i would pressure someone who would look scum to me

If you weren't sure, why did you really pressure X1? And to add on to that, why would you wait for others to pressure him as well? Do you not find this odd?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@ran

any other reasons for pressuring would be just for me, or for further understanding on something or someone.

@X1

Soup, think about this. Kuz has put himself in a position where if he fails to lynch scum on D1 he will receive a lot of flak and attention, do you think scumkuz would agree to this deal?

Kuz is a very convincing player, i'm sure he could pull himself out of a pinch. sure, he may get attention but it would just give us more info to feed on, and then, we can decide if we want a lynch on him or not.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Announcing V/LA Sorry, should have announced this on Monday, but I'll be hanging with my friends this week since it's Spring Break. If you see me posting on Smashboards, it's probably only going to be in my regional zone trying to find people to smash with.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I'm open to either possibility, while its probably more likely they're not scum together its still very possible. Do you not remember Nabe in the scum QT in celebrity saying two scummies should get all friendly because scum never do that with their partners? I'm not completely sold but leaning quite stongly towards TvS

Good. That's along the lines of what I was thinking.

tsk, nah bro. Missed it. I said to Tery "Do you agree with me that _____?" and Tery doesn't just agree along. More of a town read than a scumread imo from that post and I don't think he really danced around it, its clear he doesn't think its a town tell

Really? Even after reading it again, I still don't draw that conclusion. Tery is just saying that Joey is arguing in the interest of fairness and, while being null in itself, Tery dodges the question of whether it is a town tell with respect to Joey by rewording the question.

No, but it seems you were trying to discredit J since he does win games as town. You said it would always lead to disaster. You were exaggerating.

Answer me honestly. What type of tone was I using in this quote?

@Ran, you shouldn't follow J. That will lead to disaster as always in every sense of every possible meaning of everything. You should follow me out of pity because I am in Japan and there are nuclear meltdowns in process that threaten to destroy the earth.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I really can't believe this is happening.

@Mod: I would suggest replacing Kirbyoshi soon. Not very fair that the replacement has to read all this before the game has even begun.

 

[M.K]

Asdioh has been contacted as a replacement.

 

[Purple]

@mod - My question about full name claiming hasn't been answered.

@x1-12 - I don't remember MM mafia

 

[th3kuzinator]

@X1, what does Roxy's question about full name claiming tell you about his alignment?

 

[ranmaru]

any other reasons for pressuring would be just for me, or for further understanding on something or someone.

Please don't quote your responses.

Ah, so now you have more reasons? You pressure people just for your well being, and not the town's? Further understanding? You mean info? Why hadn't you said this the first time?

Answer me honestly. What type of tone was I using in this quote?

It doesn't matter. Now you can't say J will lead to destruction. I'm sure you were being satirical, but I used that to create discussion.

Even so, I'd still be wary of a person's alignment from their actions in game, and not base the read off a town accomplishment.

I really can't believe this is happening.

What is the big deal? We are being pro-active and using the pre-game time to discuss.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Saying that you're going to pressure someone, and then pressure them is dumb, especially for someone like X1. An experienced scum can easily react to the "Pressure" in a pro-town way.

God.


Guys, people assume WIFOM is a null tell. Early on, soup was provoking people to WIFOM what he was saying. He wants people to have a null-tell on him. HE'S PUESDO-CLEARING HIMSELF.

(For X1: A townie shouldn't have to resort to puesdo-clearing, as they can use their voice and their vote to convince people their town, and they do not need to attract attention of people while they use common assumptions to make themselves look town.)

Don't you dare slander my name by saying I have a reputation for chainsawing n00bies by using an example that is just an extremely poor game of mine.

But what if its a fact?

though seriously J, if you're denying it, then why can't I use it against you more? You repeatedly doing this is the reaosn 'm not considering this action more important.

You are even using it incorrectly. I have my reason for why you are scum besides "chainsaw" as you put it.

J, some of your reasons came from my attack directly. That is chainsawing.

Would scumSeph and scumJ openly hold hands in thread? Is Dark Horse smart enough to realize they wouldn't? Is Seph & J TvT TvS or SvS?

Kuz, if this is what you were saying, then why did you say this?:

Good. That's along the lines of what I was thinking.

It clearly isn't


X1, I've given reason as to why J and Seph are scum separately.

 

[ranmaru]

Dh, I don't want you to solely rely on meta to build a case for a role read.

Base it off his actions here. Isn't a chainsaw defense null or not worth anything until the person being defended flips scum or town?

 

[#HBC | J]

DH thinks his definition of "chainsawing" is scummy just like AtE and other useless dribble.

I even have to respond to this game as well ;_;

Has it even started?

 

[ranmaru]

Yeah we can't really see anything from a chainsaw without a flip.

But I agree with Dh that Soup Kitchen is at least in some way null (or wants to be) and will be a distraction to town.

What do you think J? Should we do something about Soup, or ignore him?

 

[Dooms]

The game has not started yet J. XD!

Asdioh~! My first game with you (not including subbing in)!!! Thoughts when you catch up would be wonderful! Don't feel rushed though!

Same thing if Asdioh doesn't sub in. Replace Asdioh's name with the sub's and take out the sentence after the name.