Diddy Kong Racing Mafia! [Finished! Town Wins!]

[X1-12]

@X1, what does Roxy's question about full name claiming tell you about his alignment?

The fact he asked it in thread makes me think he's town. Fakeable without much difficulty I know but I don't think Roxy would think it up himself, and looking at the playerlist I don't really think anyone save you or I would ever think to tell him to fake that. Imo if he was scum thinking that he'd be sitting in the QT crapping himself rather than posting in thread. I don't actually see how nameclaims could break the game, its just a racing game, are there even bad guys though?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Isn't a chainsaw defense null or not worth anything until the person being defended flips scum or town?

Exactly the point. I have J and soup pegged as scum for different reason,s and one of them flipping scum could make the connection a lot more solid.

DH thinks his definition of "chainsawing" is scummy just like AtE and other useless dribble.

No, I think its attacking someone who's attacking someone else.

relying on this strawmanning, you've fallen quite some paces.

Ran, fill me in: Was this how J performed in ruts guillotine?

 

[ranmaru]

Yes. WizPig. And maybe the bosses of each domain. (I <3 this game)

 

[ranmaru]

EBWOP: My last post was in reference to X1.

 

[ranmaru]

Exactly the point. I have J and soup pegged as scum for different reason,s and one of them flipping scum could make the connection a lot more solid.



No, I think its attacking someone who's attacking someone else.

relying on this strawmanning, you've fallen quite some paces.

Ran, fill me in: Was this how J performed in ruts guillotine?

No, not at all. J was being attacked by Cello, Swords, and others. (Only because he wasn't being serious in RVS)

In the middle, he said he didn't like July. (Probably because she waggoned and hammered prematurely, with influence from Cello)

Then he put alot of effort into finishing his reads, and caught scum.

DH, could you tell me why you think J had a reason to attack you for attacking Soup? Please post the quotes and explain what intent J had.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

The He could be chainsawing his scumbuddy (I've made some posts on how soup and J are scum. Give me a second...). However, the reason I wasn't paranoid about this was because J has done this before (such as in Dnd mafia). HOwever, J's denial for DnD, and now his use of strawmanning my definition of chainsaw defending, has lead me to believe that J was defending a scumbud.

 

[#HBC | J]

The He could be chainsawing his scumbuddy (I've made some posts on how soup and J are scum. Give me a second...). However, the reason I wasn't paranoid about this was because J has done this before (such as in Dnd mafia). HOwever, J's denial for DnD, and now his use of strawmanning my definition of chainsaw defending, has lead me to believe that J was defending a scumbud.

Did I mention I love playing with you?

It's a riot. I love to laugh

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Did I mention I love playing with you?

It's a riot. I love to laugh

Now actually defend yourself: This gives me the impression that you've given up. To me, a townie giving up just seems to admittedly give up. You, on the other hand, are ignoring my points (a sign of giving up), but not admitting you've given up. For some reason, townies tend to be more humble, and are fine with their lynches after that. You seem to be doing the oposite, except for the fact that you're ignoring my points.

 

[ranmaru]

DH, how does that post show that J has given up?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Ran, would you still follow J, even though you've said that J isn't acting the same as in rusty guillotine?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

I've explained. He seemed to stop responding to my points and just degenerate to insults.

 

[X1-12]

@Soupa: Talk about the way in J defends himself against DH. Don't talk about DH's case just the way J defends himself. You seem to love pressure, is J responding to pressure in a townie way?

DH chill for a bit yeah? If you let J troll you you'll only end up looking like an idiot and no-one will listen to you. If you don't mind I'd like to hear soup answer my above question before much more of this back and forth.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

DH chill for a bit yeah? If you let J troll you you'll only end up looking like an idiot and no-one will listen to you. If you don't mind I'd like to hear soup answer my above question before much more of this back and forth.

Can you clarify this?

 

[X1-12]

Yeah sure - J is getting you riled up by insulting you etc etc, if you get irritated by it you'll just play worse, say something stupid and he'll take the opportunity to rip into it and make you look stupid.

 

[ranmaru]

@DH: I can't tell. Post the quotes please, and then I'd know after one of them flips.

Which one do you want lynched, DH?

Also, do you think J would seriously stop at that? You don't think he'd post more than insults at this point?

 

[ranmaru]

I do not feel DH is the type to get riled up. I think he is fine.

 

[#HBC | J]

Lol X1-12, way to sum up my defense.

As I've said, when the game actually starts, then get at me.

I'll defend myself then, till then I have nothing to say but one line comments.

 

[Dooms]

~Ran:

Null: 2, 20, 36, 50, 54, 60

Town: 41

Scum:

~Soupamario:

Null: 3, 8, 13, 14, 16, 21, 25, 29, 43, 45, 48, 52, 53

Town:

Scum: 34, 38, 40, 58

~J:

Null: 5, 9, 11, 15, 18, 22, 23, 26, 27, 31, 39, 42, 44, 57

Town: 10, 62 (Lol voting before the game started)

Scum: 30, 37, 55

~Dark Horse:

Null: 6, 7, 12, 17, 19, 24, 28, 33, 35, 49, 56, 61

Town: 32, 59

Scum: 47


I have to brb, so I figured I might as well post my list so far. I'll give any reasons after I'm done with the whole thing.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

J, what difference does it make betweennow and when the game ends? Also, why did you call Joey out for not wanting people to talk until the game started, yet you are doing it yourself?

Why are you saying you will to nothing useful or the town being?



Ran:

Attack on J:

J has been an oddity ever since the pregame started. When I had told soup why changing your playstyle was not good, J immediately swoops down and attacks me. However, when he first attacks me, he mentions how many times I've been lynched. Why would he need to mention this if he were town (think, if I said never, he could have easily used that against me later {"DH has been lynched every single game..." yadda yadda yadda}. in addition, J's argument has flaws. When I point that out, he Instead ignores it, dismissing it with "I'm not even going to argue with this any more". When I respond to it, he just says one-liners that do nothing [such as "LOL" and "*facepalm*"] He then proceeds to vote me for this {He could be easily trying to convince people to follow him, creating a scapegoat]. all throughout this, he is chainsaw defending soup, with questioning why I would "suddenley attack him" [Notice how he isnt thinking of how soup is covering himself in a ball of WIFOM ATT], and he also claims that my FoS was anti-town [he's pulling at straws here. Not everyone had talked yet, and I wanted to see if more scum could be found]. After that, he then claims that Joey is scum for not wanting any talking until the day started, and claiming he was "scrambling for town points" {yet he didn't explain how, iirc...another scapegoat?} He then claims thy he's going to voted Joey right when the day starts [I don't see the difference, and I don't think any other townies would....so why J?)

Attack on soup;

So from the beginning, he had said that he was kirby. When approached by someone who said that kirby is in this game, he starts to go into this whole "Maybe this is just WIFOM..." type of speech. He seems to be encouraging people to WIFOM him. In addition to the fact that I don't see why a townie would do this (it could be an act to keep himself alive, but if he were a pr and not scum, scum could just kill him. I don't see any reason why he would try to stay alive as a VT), this whole WIFOMness itself is confusing and distracting. Who wants to confuse and distract the town? Scum. I call him out for this, and lay a FoS on him. He immediately stops the WIFOM. Why would he stop now, and not earlier? Panicky scum? (A townie would probably pull the plug alot quicker, instead of ride it until someone makes some representation of scum). In addition, he says that WIFOM is a strategy in EM. In addition to this not being necessary for his example (trying to play a card so people can just pass off his actions as falling under that card?), he also seems to exaggerate how much WIFOM is used in EM (Honestly its mostly just N1 of DLYV that usses excessive wifom). Why would he need to exaggerate? Maybe to fuel his EM card more? After that, he later responds to J that "He will be here for a while". Though I don't see this true as town, scum can't be nk'd (unless there's a SK) eliminating an option of him dying. When J questions that, he seems to ignore her. WHy would he do that? Realizing he slipped, and hoping everyone else will ignore it?

Buzzsawing begins here:

Why the sudden confrontational ism and dropping of weak little things like FoS's?

and continues into an argument.

What you're looking for is probably in those quotes.

 

[#HBC | J]

Buzzsawing? I thought you called it chainsawing?

DH, i'll get to you later. ^^

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Buzzsawing, chainsawing, same difference.

 

[X1-12]

I wont post again till thursday (most likely), I'll to leave something important here before I go I guess?

Also, do you think J would seriously stop at that? You don't think he'd post more than insults at this point?

Do you think its convenient that during this phase he can just decided which points he decides to to respond to and which he doesn't? Also is it being 'convenient' enough to make him scum? You agree with me that its worth using this time to catch scum correct?

I have to brb, so I figured I might as well post my list so far. I'll give any reasons after I'm done with the whole thing.

Can you spend most of your time on reasoning for the scum reads, town reads aren't that important at this point. Ordering your scumpicks to clarify would be awesome too because someone being on the list the most doesn't necessarily make them the scummiest.

Pretty sure that's it, I'm out for now

 

[#HBC | J]

Do you think its convenient that during this phase he can just decided which points he decides to to respond to and which he doesn't? Also is it being 'convenient' enough to make him scum? You agree with me that its worth using this time to catch scum correct?

Woooow you are reaching. xD

 

[ranmaru]

Why the sudden confrontational ism and dropping of weak little things like FoS's?

Why the sudden backing down?

Ah, I think that is in reference to you asking Soup why he was backing down from pressure.

DH, why do you think Soup was backing down? Here is the post you responded to:

oh, you guys are no fun, i'm tired of acting srs buisness man, if you want, i'll stop.

 

[X1-12]

Woooow you are paranoid.

 

[X1-12]

Woooow you are paranoid.

A.) Ninja ruined the moment

B.) Should have probably said defensive not paranoid

 

[M.K]

@Roxy, nothing about the set up will be revealed.

 

[ranmaru]

Combo breaker.

 

[M.K]

To prevent a replacement from further having to catch up through this pre-game period, I am now locking the thread.

The thread will be reopened when the replacement contacts me back and D1 starts.

 

[Asdioh]

does that mean D1 starts now?

8 pages of pregame talk I hate all of you.

 

[M.K]

Not yet

 

[M.K]

Start of Lap 1!

Asdioh replaces Kirbyoshi. Nabe replaces Ranmaru. Welcome them both heartily to the game!

[yt]Ce_l_YX_MUg[/yt]

Lap 1 :: A N C I E N T L A K E

We join our racers in the midst of a fast and furious competition! Through the ice of Frosty Village to the stone-cobbled paths of Greenwood Village, our racers are braving the terrain to reclaim Timber's Island from the evil Wizpig. Several inhabitants from the island have gone missing, and Wizpig is said to be following the racers at every corner!

Through the turbo boosters and the homing rockets, either good or evil will prevail. Will the racers reclaim Timber's Island, or does Wizpig have a new home to call his own?


Lap 1 Start!
With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch!
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[th3kuzinator]

Vote: Sephiroths Masamune

@Nabe, you are replacing into a town slot. Any striking thoughts from pre-game that you want to share with us before we continue our conversation? Same question to Asdioh.

 

[UTDZac]

Glad to see the game has begun!!

 

[Asdioh]

Wait why was Ranmaru replaced o_O I got the impression he was here and wanted to play.

So, I skimmed the pregame talk but didn't put too much effort into it because it was kind of stupid and I strongly believe that that kind of thing shouldn't start until the game actually starts.

Though I did have something quoted before the thread was locked... ok here it is

@J, Sit down, take a chill pill and breathe. Your reactions to Joey's posts have been uncharacteristically angry while Joey has been posting in an uncharacteristically calm manner.

also noticed this, though I've only played with each of them once before.


If anyone thinks reading through the pregame crap is actually worthwhile then I might do it after work, but until then I'm going to just pretend this is the beginning.

Vote: Soupamario


Kuzi, didn't you just vote someone that's V/LA?

 

[th3kuzinator]

What struck you as odd about the quote?

 

[Asdioh]

Meaning I also noticed that they were acting that way. >_>

Hopefully when I come back from work some people will have posted :3 see you later

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Oh, I replaced Ran? I had this line in my notes.

- Ran is scum, do not change this view or deviate from this

Lol. Well, my other scum pick was Seph.
Vote Seph

Zac is town, DH is town. Ran was buddying J... lol. Joey null leaning town.
Some of my other notes I'm going to let blossom a bit.

Anyone up for a full nameclaim? At the very least, Soup and Joey should nameclaim.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Zac is town

What gave you that impression in the slightest?

Anyone up for a full nameclaim?

Depends on your reasoning for wanting to name claim in the first place. Why Soup and Joey first, considering you say you have a slight town read on Joey?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Cop here.

srs claim.

no, really.

it's a srs claim.

kuzi, i am not wifoming.

being sincere and 100% legit here.
______________________________________________

ANYWAYS

i got an inno, i had to wait until game started for my investigation to get back to me.