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Yeah... no. The only way to actually verify this would be getting it straight from dev's mouth or seeing a blatant misproportion (half chars are linked to |Mario or something). It could be that some chars from other series were seen as better choices and there is no limit or it was higher than expected, it could be that they hit the limit that happenned to be maximal amount of chars per franchise, you never know.
And now, 5 characters Ghirahim could resemble if he were a clone:
: This is the only one with any feasible possibility.: Heck, ganondwarf did it, why couldn't he?: Because 1 fox clone has been added per game. He could shoot his red dagger things like a blaster!: Heck, the 1st form of the third encounter with him somewhat resembled Punch-out.: Both have freakishly long tongues...
You just jumped right off the cliff with that one.
*cue laugh track*You totally get it, don't you?
When I heard about that, combined with his music playing in the E3 video about Smash, I felt overwhelming empathy with everyone who grasps at straws in order to justify the characters they want. If I'm to be honest, I'm not sold on the E3 video because I feel like a part of me just suspects that Mega64 put in the music as they were featured in the video, and they did so because the theme makes things badass in the most hilarious way when played over a ridiculous situation. As for the trophies, I can see that a bit more, but I'm pretty certain personally that Ridley is disconfirmed, so that leaves me wondering what else it could possibly be hinting at.
Well considering Skyward Sword kind of had its own little style to how the world and characters came to life it's really no wonder that Ghirahim would look weird as he is in his game when compared to the SSB styles granted to Link and Zelda (just thinking about the Skyward versions of those with them, they'd look quite odd in relation). As you say, he'd just be seen without that Skyward Sword paint-like look and he'd instantly match them.
Absolutely agree and I don't think most around here would disagree. Tingle is more of a Japan character, but over there people like Ghirahim more than we do here just like with Tingle, except the hate overall isn't equal between them.
You forgot some!
: He did the dual blade thing first! And the daggers are basically smaller arrows!: Arrows = Daggers, Sword = Sword, Bombs and Rang = Random crap Sakurai makes up! (I'm looking at you, ): It can take the place of literally ANYTHING!!
You forgot some!
: He could be like Zelda, Fire Ball? Explosive Daggers!, Blue Whirlwind? dagger whilrwind, he could also use his cool teleport animation for the up B, and the final smash? instead of throwing a arrow of light, he will.... Transform in the sword and throw himself! (just like the arrow... but he will be THE arrow :D ): Tornade? Daggers tornado!, flying? everything he jumps he gets something like these in his feets to make it look he uses that to jump again in the air: He could easily be the clone of a forgotten clone! : but Mewtwo have a tail! Ghirahim could use his cape to hit with it instead of using a tail!, Shadow ball? charge a giant sword (a copy of his original form -how he looks when he's a sword-)
: by far the most fabulous character on the roster at this point.
No, no, no...
If Ghirahim were a last-minute clone pick, he'd be a clone of:
MarthxPeach... alright. I like it.Can you please repeat that?
That is an interesting offspring. I imagine it would look a bit more like this, so fabulous!MarthxPeach... alright. I like it.
Their child would be even MORE fabulous though.
See? I'd like to see this thing go up against Ghirahim in Smash.
The game had Groose in it. How could it be bad?
I am honestly started to labor a disdain for the game because of the inconsistent motion controls, they are frustrating at times. They make me "FURIOUS, OUTRAGED, SICK WITH ANGER!"
Do they leave you with an appetite for bloodshed as well?
I don't even want to deal with that....
I honestly love the idea; as a Demon Lord, he should be able to summon something reminiscent of... well... demons! The prospect of Ghirahim being a zoner is exciting; he would have a lot of utility with a summoning move in addition to some of the more obvious tools (such as his red projectiles, maybe sword throwing, teleporting, etc.). I don't think it is too likely though, we already have Rosalina, who is technically a summoning character. Zelda, another Legend of Zelda character, already summons Ganon.Do they leave you with an appetite for bloodshed as well?
Motion controls? I'm mostly used to it, but I definitely agree when it comes to having to have stab the ground with Link's sword.
That aside, I had an idea for one of Ghirahim's moves: Summoning. It's similar to Dedede's side special, except Ghiahim sends forth Bokoblins instead. This idea has probably already been suggested, but what are your thoughts?
Hmm. That's true, but whenever I think of Ghirahim having a moveset, him summoning something other than Demise always comes to mind for me. He uses that move repeatedly in SS, so why not have it SSB4? As unlikely as it is, I hope Sakurai can think of a way to make summoning possible and and unique for Ghirahim alone. Wont get my hopes up though considering what Rosalina and Zelda can do.
Honestly once I figured out that the game assumes whatever direction you're pointing when you pull out an idem is forwards, I didn't have any problems. The Imprisoned, however...
Ahhhh, I love it when people really start to shine to the idea once they play his game. That's how he gets ya, I always say. Glad to have your support!
It's hard to get a handle of for sure, you really have to make sure when one swings that you are in-sync with where the blade is in the game because you can slash and due to Link's position with the blade the motion will send it in the wrong direction. This could have just been an issue I always had personally, not sure if relevant. Make sure also to mess with the Down button on the D-Pad which recalibrates it based on how you're aiming the Mote. I say this because I always tended to forget that aspect, which again, could've just been me. Embarrass
It could just always be a much more aggressive Waddle Dee attack from Brawl. The other two summons don't do anything of the sort, and Dedede seems to have lost that because of how, admittedly, underwhelming that move was in that game (and the characters are all around seemingly stronger and the gameplay is a bit faster all-around), although it was kind of adorable seeing them waddle around uselessly heh. But yeah, having them actively seek out opponents to attack. They can even sometimes spawn them with the suicidal bombs in their hands up above their heads like during the Horde battle.
Dat Sheik hater
What I mean by redundancy is about moves. Sheik have her own moveset. And still, Sheik may be Zelda, but Sheik is still Sheik. Without transformations, the connections between the two are slim. Show Sheik to someone unfamiliar to the Zelda universe, that person is never going to associate Zelda with Sheik. Not without knowledge.
, what a diverse moveset
Ok, lets stop with the clone ideasHe's obviously going to be a clone of
, these thread is dead mostly because we started talking about the possible clones (is fun at the beggining but not when there's a full page of these
) and yes i'm guilty too (I'm so sorry 
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That would be nice and that would also make him feel...
different, i mean... all characters with counters only hit the target
, it would a little different if you actually grab the target when you counter but i think that may cause some clipping issues 
Ghirahim hasn't been confirmed as an Assist Trophy or a Trophy. So he is still in the run. His theme was playing during Nintendo's announcement for the invitational Smash Brothers Tournament and other E3 related items. It could mean a plethora of things, Ghirahim for Smash? Ghirahim in Zelda Wii U? Nobody knows. They could have just liked the theme.
Yeah, also... a lot of people started to speculate of the possibility of a hint in the Nintendo Direct (the SSB one), where they showed Fi trophy
I didn't know Ghirahim was the "anti-master sword," I suppose I haven't gotten to that part in the game, so that hint is much more blatant that I actually thought.Yeah, also... a lot of people started to speculate of the possibility of a hint in the Nintendo Direct (the SSB one), where they showed Fi trophy
Why? well:
1- Ghirahim is the counter part of Fi (Fi is the master sword and Ghirahim is the anti-master sword -random name don't judge-)
2- The other trophie was Pseudo Palutena, that is most likely a hint to Palutena and so on
I don't mind at all (I expect spoilers), I was just stating that before I knew he was the "anti-master sword" I thought that people were referencing Ghirahim just because he came from the same game as Fi. I didn't realize that there was a better correlation. It makes me feel more confident in his chances.Uhmmm.... ermmm...... Spoiler alert?
Sorry
Uhhh, well if you don't care about spoilers:
I suppose my opinion on a Legend of Zelda representative has changed once again. If Fi wasn't a blatantly obvious clue indicating his inclusion, I have literally no idea what is.
Yeah, that's why he's got a lot of attention with that (also because is the most likely character from that game, Demise only appears at the end and don't have a lot of personality :S)
Well Ghirahim do not become Demise's sword, he's Demise's sword
Yeah, and you can kind of tell early on, because he refers to Demise as "master" just like Fi refers to Link.
So he already has a potential alternate costume as well, he is prepared for his inclusion. Haha.Yeah, that's why he's got a lot of attention with that (also because is the most likely character from that game, Demise only appears at the end and don't have a lot of personality :S)
Here a picture of Ghirahim "ultimate form" where you can easily notice that he looks like Fi
Well Ghirahim do not become Demise's sword, he's Demise's sword