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[Chaco]

@ Dramatic Flair i think you should target scary/beat/joker. joker is lower on the list since he apparently wasn't tracked when the kill happened. i'd say beat first because his power is more detrimental in lylo. scary is my ideal pick though, don't know why people have him as town considering his play all game has been super fluff.

I don't have Scary as town. And out of the powers listed ideally his makes the most sense as scum. Neighbors are of no confirmed alignment and it would add an interesting mechanic to the game with a multi-shot scum neighbor. I can definitely see that.

But if Murder is vengeful, he can just kill Scary off as soon as he gets lynched assuming he's not scum.Then he gets the game winning play bad ass style. Going down in a blaze of vengeful hardbody for the win, assuming Scary is scum if he's not.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

so am i using my power, then?

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

you can try again though @ruy



wtf are you even talking about?


@kwk - basically your entire premise for proposing my lynch is based on the fact that i get one public use of my ability, which leaves no paper trail. my counter to your logic is that not only does it seem arbitrary, but there's also the fact that myself and MB can't be scum together as mates. no, this isn't an implication that i'm saying you think we're both scum, it's an implication that your logic is inherently flawed to begin with and is worrisome.

What are you talking about?

I know you and murder can't be mates. This isn't a counter argument.

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

You'll need to better explain how my logic is flawed. And what you mean by worrisome. Are you insinuating that I'm scum?

Why would you want Joker targeted if we track him and confirm he's not a ninja?

Do you not see the merit in leaving Beat for now so he can use his ability on Ruy and Chaco?

Since you're effectively a VT at this point, can't you consent to being someone who needs to die before lylo to secure a town win? You've said you're fine with me Chaco and Ruy living to lylo. Do I need to show you the math of how we statistically can't lose unless one of Chaco and Ruy are scum?

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

so am i using my power, then?

Yes.

My track is on you right now. Pair someone with murder.

 

[BarDulL]

Ok, one more time. Since MB and I can't both be scum, at LEAST one of us is town. If at least one of us is town, that means your logic is flawed because the previous statement contradicts your sentiment regarding paper trails. Just because myself and MB aren't leaving paper trails isn't an implication that we are both scum. Therefore your rationale is arbitrarily contrived.

And yes it is still possible you are scum. Your rationale is worrisome because you are trying to five players passes based on ability use. Tell me, what's gonna happen in a three mab lylo with beatscum? He will just use his ability on himself so that he can't be lynched. Your dismissal of these slots is booty why you're tdying to push alots on the premise of being vanilla...RR's ability use on my slot should only serve as additional verification of my claim anyway, watdo?

 

[BarDulL]

Holy shiz posting on this phone with autocorrect is terrible, I'll wait til I get to a comp

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

You're not scum because your roles don't leave paper trails. When did I say that made you scum?

What I said is: If a scum role is responsible for silencing rake, stopping all abilities, etc. It is one of the 2 of you because you have the only roles that haven't been confirmed to do something else during the Day. The only ones without alibis, if you will. In no way does this mean you both have to be scum.

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

I also didn't ever say that Beat is going to be allowed anywhere near LyLo.

How are your problems understanding what I'm saying negating the things that made me townie? You're doing that thing scum does when someone suspects them where they revoke all townreads on the person and throw out words like "gross" and "worrisome" to describe their actions in order to discredit them and weaken their argument.

The fact of the matter is, you have no reason not to consent to being ousted before lylo. Beat, Joker, and Scary also shouldn't make it there. However, if we confirm Jokers ability is trackable, then we can rule him out as the killer. Beat we also want to save for long enough to make him use his power on Ruy and Chaco. Scary is another option, but I want you first because he has a confirmed ability and if a scum role is responsible for all the scum one-shots we've seen it's you or murder.

Have I made myself clear yet?

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

I've asked the mod for confirmation that we were tracking joker immediately upon abilities coming back. To be quite honest I still don't like him and the Rake Chaco pairing was very convenient for Rake who used it to try to get Chaco's power, among other things.

In a world where a 16 man game has a 5 man scum team I could see Joker being in it and someone else having sent the kill. Before I cross that paranoia bridge though I'd like to find the killer.

 

[BarDulL]

You're not scum because your roles don't leave paper trails. When did I say that made you scum?

What I said is: If a scum role is responsible for silencing rake, stopping all abilities, etc. It is one of the 2 of you because you have the only roles that haven't been confirmed to do something else during the Day. The only ones without alibis, if you will. In no way does this mean you both have to be scum.

if you don't think i'm scum based on not having a constant or locked ability available at my discretion, then pushing for my lynch on the premise of not having a constant or locked ability is dumb.

 

[BarDulL]

I also didn't ever say that Beat is going to be allowed anywhere near LyLo.

How are your problems understanding what I'm saying negating the things that made me townie? You're doing that thing scum does when someone suspects them where they revoke all townreads on the person and throw out words like "gross" and "worrisome" to describe their actions in order to discredit them and weaken their argument.

The fact of the matter is, you have no reason not to consent to being ousted before lylo. Beat, Joker, and Scary also shouldn't make it there. However, if we confirm Jokers ability is trackable, then we can rule him out as the killer. Beat we also want to save for long enough to make him use his power on Ruy and Chaco. Scary is another option, but I want you first because he has a confirmed ability and if a scum role is responsible for all the scum one-shots we've seen it's you or murder.

Have I made myself clear yet?

you're ALSO doing that thing where you're neglecting that i saved your gog damn slot and did not just jump aboard your wagon upon your apparent impending doom. it would have been so easy for me to do. you're also forgetting that i heavily backed all three of the scum lynches so far. that's why it's blowing my mind right now that you are implying that i am scum/thinking it's a good idea that i should go. you're either paranoid or trying to get rid of slots that could ruin your plans.

i do have reasons to not be ousted. firstly, it's anti-town to just succumb to a horribly thought out lynch. secondly, if i get killed, that leaves you to deal with scary, joker, and beat in a 6man scenario with you, ryu, and chaco. it's an AWFUL scenario that you haven't thought about yet. you're being lazy and not reading the game while coming up with awful excuses like 'you don't have an alibi.' wut? how does me not having an 'alibi' implicate me of being scum. we KNOW scum has more than just 1 ability available to them, so even if scary or beat has an ability readily available that can pop up on your tracking, that doesn't mean they don't have one extra ability that won't.

i'm not trying to sound like a **** or be a douche but that is honestly how i feel about your current assertion.

 

[BarDulL]

that doesn't mean they don't have one extra ability a.k.a. the remaing scum member

EBWOP

 

[BarDulL]

KWK can you triple check with the mod to make sure you were definitely tracking joker when the kill occurred? like make sure the kill did not occur during the lockdown and make sure it happened after the lockdown of abilities

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

The mod has confirmed that I was on Joker immediately upon abilities being up again. We were on him before we got roleblocked so we defaulted back to him when our ability was usable again.

I think it's safe to assume the kill happened after abilities came back so we can say with certainty that if Joker (and the Mafia kill in general) is trackable, Joker didn't send the kill in.

I might be getting paranoid about you and all these scum powers going unaccounted for, but you're right and play-wise you haven't been scummy. Quite the contrary.

Beat I want you to use your ability on Chaco toDay. You have used it once on Ruy already and claim you can use it twice per person, so you can hit Chaco again in the future if need be.

Joker pair murder and whomever anytime.

 

[Chaco]

I can see your line of logic though, KWK.

Also, to hit two birds with one stone. @ #HBC | Joker do NOT announce who you are pairing Murder with. Allow KWK to provide us with who he is paired with. @ Dramatic Flair , you also do not claim who you get paired with. This gives us with certainty in thread proof that KWK is near perfectly clear, or unquestionably tracker for any remaining naysayers.

 

[Dramatic Flair]

I can see your line of logic though, KWK.

Also, to hit two birds with one stone. @ #HBC | Joker do NOT announce who you are pairing Murder with. Allow KWK to provide us with who he is paired with. @ Dramatic Flair , you also do not claim who you get paired with. This gives us with certainty in thread proof that KWK is near perfectly clear, or unquestionably tracker for any remaining naysayers.

Wasn't it publicly announced last time?

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

Yeah what murder said. Only ruy and scary can be used to confirm my ability. I guess you could too Chaco.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Wasn't it publicly announced last time?

Yes, it's publicly announced.

 

[Marshmellowman]

in a certain way KWK and murderbush.... are now 1! They now share 1 vote between them! They can b voted individually!



Red Ryu takes one less vote from the majority to be lynched!

Chaco takes one less vote from the majority to be lynched!

Murderbush (3): Scary, Joker, Beat!
Beat! (1): Bardull

Not voting (3): Murderbush/KWK, Red Ryu, Chaco

Deadline is 9/25 11:59:59 PM EST. With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

[collapse=voting log]
1. #HBC | Gorf => KWK > Bardull > Chaco > KWK > Ruy > BSL > KWK
3. Beat! => Chaco > Chaco > unvote > KWK > unvote > KWK > Red Ryu > Rake > MB > MB
4. adumbrodeus => Murderbush > Ruy > Gorf > KWK
5. Chaco => Gheb > Gorf > KWK > KWK > Murderbush > Joker > Rake > Joker > Beat! > unvote
6. Gheb_01 => KWK > Gorf > KWK > adumbrodeus > Rake > adumbrodeus > Beat! > Gorf > MB
7. Kreative Whiz Kids (Potassium/Sokr) => Joker > unvote > BSL > Rake > unvote > Red Ryu > Rake > Murderbush > Gorf > adumbrodeus > murderbush > Gargaglione > Rake
8. #HBC | BarDeezy => Evil Eye > Gorf > Joker > Gorf > unvote > adumbrodeus > Beat! > Scary > Gorf > Joker > Joker > Beat!
9. mUrDeRbUsH (Raziek/#HBC | Ryker) => Chaco > Gorf > Ruy > Gorf > BSL > Gorf > Gorf > Gheb
10. JeXs => Rake > BSL > KWK > Murderbush > Gorf > Joker > adumbrodeus > Murderbush > Joker > Bardull > Murderbush
11. Wots All This Then? (JDietz43/Orboknown) => Murderbush > Scary > Murderbush > unvote > KWK > unvote > KWK
12. #HBC | Rake. => JeXs > KWK > KWK > beat! > Joker
13. #HBC | Joker => KWK > KWK > KWK
14. #HBC | Red Ryu => Gorf > Chaco > unvote > Ranmaru > unvote > Scary > Gorf
15. #HBC | Scary => KWK > BSL > Rake > MB[/collapse]

 

[#HBC | Joker]

oh yea, I may have failed to mention something. I don't think Chaco or Rake ever brought it up, but you guys get access to a new power that let's you votelock people, as a result of me using my ability on you. You both have to send the name in for it to work.

Just a heads up, don't be alarmed. It's not some other person messing with you, that's just my power. Chaco can confirm that they received the same thing earlier.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

They never used it, either. If they had, it also would have been publicly announced.

 

[Beat!]

Beat I want you to use your ability on Chaco toDay. You have used it once on Ruy already and claim you can use it twice per person, so you can hit Chaco again in the future if need be.

Done.

 

[Beat!]

Tell me, what's gonna happen in a three mab lylo with beatscum? He will just use his ability on himself so that he can't be lynched.

Except
A. I can't use my ability on myself, and
B. the plan is to lynch me before lylo anyway.

 

[Beat!]

if i get killed, that leaves you to deal with scary, joker, and beat in a 6man scenario with you, ryu, and chaco. it's an AWFUL scenario that you haven't thought about yet..

What's so awful about that?

 

[Chaco]

Yes, it's publicly announced.

Nevermind that, forgot it was publicly announced since it was used on me.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

How has it been almost 48 hours since I used my power, and kwk hasn't come in to confirm whether or not he tracked it?

Get in here and say you saw me, cuz I'm not a fuggin ninja.

 

[Marshmellowman]

a beam of light engulfs chaco. he takes 1 more vote to lynch this day phase n the next

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

yeah we saw you visit us and murder

 

[Chaco]

Okay so... Who do we not at all have confirmation on at this point?

I know we got:

Ryu
Joker
Scary
Me
KWK

Who else?

People whose powers worry me: BarDull. (Falls into line with one shot powers, however I have him as a town read from previous actions. PoE only makes me worry.)

Where we throwing out hardbody at ToDay? Have we come to a unanimous decision yet?

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

go for murder, have him shoot scary or bardull imo

 

[#HBC | Scary]

go for murder, have him shoot scary or bardull imo

Definitely the best course of action. I know I'm town and if Bardull also turns up town, it'd be best to have it done now so that town still has time to recover and figure this out. If it isn't Bardull, I imagine joker is the next best choice. Paranoia makes me look at Ryu but that's all paranoia and assuming no scum comes up from the flips.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

why are people not voting? Do you want to kill murder, or are you changing your mind? Right now we're just sitting on our hands for no reason. End the day.

 

[Beat!]

Yeah, can we just do this already? I'm pretty sure everyone already knows the general direction from here and there's not much else to discuss for the time being as far as I'm concerned.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

@ Dramatic Flair
@Raziek
@#HBC | Ryker

Can I hammer and you can go pew pew?

 

[Chaco]

Vote: Murderbush

SWAGFLU

 

[#HBC | Scary]

So @ #HBC | Red Ryu I think this is the part where you can hammer unless there is an objection.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote: MurderBush

 

[Marshmellowman]

"You counter despair with hope. You strive forever for the best you are capable to be! Therein lies the victory!"
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Murderbush, Storm, Mafia Communicator, has been lynched! Town is victorious!

 

[BSL]

Well ok then