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Well yes. However, with Incineroar not being the biggest fan favorite or marketing focus of Gen 7 like Greninja and Lucario were for their gens, combined with the lack of an Alola stage or music and spirits that debuted in USUM, that's why some people still have hope for another one.
Here's a better look at some of the main fighters for the upcoming Alola League, it seems that Oluolu with the Snorlax will also be participating too! You can also see Hau alongside an Alolan Raichu & it seems that Team Rocket will be separate in the fight! #anipoke pic.twitter.com/vLaUYQ2VHZ
— KGP (@KGPrestige) June 22, 2019
You can always support a Pokémon from both Gens. I've got Lycanroc as my Gen 7 choice, and Zacian/Zamazenta as my Gen 8 choice.
Well, Zacian and whatever other Pokémon they have to offer. I'm sure there's gonna be at least a few other viable contenders. Then again, Gen 6 didn't have much outside the starters.
Seeing how we don't even know squat about the boxart Legendaries, we'll probably get more info very soon. We haven't gotten an official reveal of Yamper, Impdimp, or that squirrel Pokémon yet.
I don't think Sakurai has ever really shown to have looked at Pokémon characters that way. Unlike FE, the Pokémon games don't have unique protagonists with individual skills and talents. Every protagonist that's ever existed is essentially a generic human avatar. Pokémon are the real stars, and since the player decides the team, there's never any guarantee those people will have the Pokémon Sakurai adds in Smash.
I don't think that Sakurai cares what types that the playable Pokemon are.
I don't think you'd be excluding an entire community by adding a Pokemon exclusive to one version, especially one that's literally on the boxart of one of the two games.
I agree. I'm just saying that Sakurai probably won't pick another fire starter right after he added Incineroar. Same with Greninja, but to a lesser extent.
Would be wild, wouldn't it? Then again, the anime's take on the Alola League seems like it's supposed to be lower key compared to the massive events of most previous sagas. Almost like it's a regional compared to the Kalos League being a national, so to speak.
Welcome! Fortunately, there's no hard rule saying no generation other than the first is allowed more than one character. For proof of that, look at the other big series with a rotating cast--Fire Emblem has three characters from Awakening!
Gen 8's in an awkward spot. According to Sakurai, this wave of DLC was locked in back in November, a full year before Sword and Shield's release date. Smash tends to avoid pulling from games that are too far off at the time of characters being chosen, and even apparent exceptions have actually lined up with that. The Smash 4 team waited until X & Y were almost done before choosing Greninja, and the same thing happened this time with them waiting for Sun & Moon (which might've been why Lycanroc missed out--they wouldn't have been able to wait another 9-ish months for the form with the biggest focus to be ready without throwing off their entire schedule). Even Corrin wasn't much of an early bird pick--development on Corrin started some time around April to June of 2015, and Fire Emblem Fates originally released in Japan in late June of that year, meaning Corrin was chosen at a point where Fates was nearly finished!
From what I understand, this is how the league is set up.
The order the base newcomers were revealed has no impact on the DLC. All six unique newcomers were decided at the same time, with Incineroar possibly requiring a few extra months.
The DLC is being picked by Nintendo. They should be aware of how several gen 7 Pokemon do better on popularity polls than Incineroar, and who has a bigger marketing focus.
So far, yes, but that's not guaranteed to be the case. For all we know, the last two characters could be from Nintendo, giving us three first-parties and three third-parties.
Nintendo always puts their biggest headliners first. They never ended on a huge hype note in Smash history even dating back to Smash 64 and Melee with some of their unlockable characters.
Updated version, spot the difference pic.twitter.com/wxErKhrTmU
— NinN (@NinNakajima) April 18, 2019
Oh, we absolutely should. Also, you guys know how some people are expecting sequels to trailers now due to Banjo's being a reference to K. Rool's? Because I had an idea similar to that BEFORE it was cool: Lycanroc's trailer starts with Incineroar taking down various other Pokemon or the characters trying to challenge him at the end of his trailer. He succeeds and poses triumphantly, only to get KO'd by rocks coming from both sides. One is from Lycanroc, then after showing Lycanroc gameplay, the other is revealed to be from Isaac.
Hm. Another potential artist? This could be worth looking into.
Careful. Just because the community repeats something a lot doesn't necessarily mean it's legit. It's an easy trap to fall into! For example, a lot of people still think Leif was considered for Melee before Roy, all because some guy on (if I remember right) NeoGAF made up a bunch of stuff years ago that got taken at face value!
I've seen this brought up in a few places itself lately. There has been a trend in past Smash games of there being a big, climactic exclamation point about 60-70% of the way through the reveal cycle...followed by falling action with the last few reveals being lower key or niche picks.
Well that’s because the Pokémon shown were the signature Pokémon of their respective trainers in the games their from. In this case, Midday Lycanroc is Kukui’s signature Pokémon in the S/M games. Most trainers don’t have a starter line with the exception of the protagonists and rivals. So, I don’t get why you always have to be pushy against Incineroar.
For the record, can we not make this a promotional measuring contest? Speaking from experience with Fire Emblem Heroes, these kinds of crossover gachas bring in all the big names eventually, so it doesn't mean a damn thing. All three Alola starters will be in the game in the long run, whether through Hau (though he might just have an Alolan Raichu), Elio and Selene whenever they're introduced in a new banner, or otherwise.
That’s exactly what I was about to say. Seeing how Kukui and most likely Olivia is going to have both Midday and Midnight Lycanroc as their sync pairs, and since this new character has a rockruff, he may be the one who has a sync pair with Dusk Lycanroc later in the game.
If this theory does plan out, could we potentially see Dusk Lycanroc as our first mobile rep?
I could actually see Lyn getting promoted because of how FE Heroes character polls have proven to IS she is still popular, and as a result they have given her several alts.
And then there's the other original characters like Fjorm, Veronica, Loki and Eir.
Eh...I wouldn't put much stock in that angle. We're better off not thinking in terms of "reps", since Sakurai himself doesn't put much priority in it. It gets discussed so overwhelmingly often in this community that it's easy to believe it must be a thing, but the truth isn't so simple! If we got a character from one of Nintendo's mobile spinoffs, it wouldn't be for the sake of "representing" that side of the company.
If they gave Fire Emblem Heroes a look, I imagine it'd be one of the original characters designed for the game. Whether that'd be mainstays since launch like Alfonse, or newer OCs who showed up partway through like Fjorm and her spear and ice powers, or even the player character (default name Kiran) as a summoner, there could be something there.
Why did you think I said "promote"? Besides, this thread is about breaking one of the roster's supposed rules anyway.
Honestly, even if it's true, I don't think it changes much.
Even if they did know when they would come out, if let’s say the all the characters were decided by early August, it would still be pretty long time to jump in that early.
It'll depend on how much them being guest fighters factored into it. When other companies are involved, there're a ton of extra hoops to jump through with setting up the licensing, running every detail past them to ensure their approval, et cetera. By its very nature, this would require much more development time than any first party characters.
Well, it's more that those extra months could take an already iffy situation and make it even less secure. If pulling from an upcoming game a year in advance would run the risk of an outdated portrayal of the character that was inaccurate to its only source material, then pulling from a game a year and a half in advance would amplify the risk even further!
