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Sending the model files ASAP. Once again, a big thanks. The only thing that needs work on the model is how the shoulder spheres are rigged, which Bagan already mentioned. I don't have any experience in this area though so it's probably a better job for someone else.
Here is a side by side comparison of the Dark Samus Corruption import and the Dark Samus SSB4 import. I think the right (SSB4) model is slightly bigger overall, but they are very very similar. Also note how badly placed the shoulder spheres are on the left (Corruption) model. Well, which one does everyone prefer???
I definitely prefer the SSB4 one. It looks way slicker and, well, darker.Here is a side by side comparison of the Dark Samus Corruption import and the Dark Samus SSB4 import. I think the right (SSB4) model is slightly bigger overall, but they are very very similar. Also note how badly placed the shoulder spheres are on the left (Corruption) model. Well, which one does everyone prefer???
I second what ConDeeCas said. SSB4 one is the better of the two.
I actually like seeing the detail in the corruption model, plus if you get clever with the shaders and stuff, it will look better than the smash 4 model. Plus using the Smash 4 model kind of goes against the PMDT's mentality of using Sm4sh characters, but that's just me. If you can't decide, include both in the final mod. One can be the default, and the other will be an alt. costume.Here is a side by side comparison of the Dark Samus Corruption import and the Dark Samus SSB4 import. I think the right (SSB4) model is slightly bigger overall, but they are very very similar. Also note how badly placed the shoulder spheres are on the left (Corruption) model. Well, which one does everyone prefer???
You make a good point. I just think that the Corruption model is a little too bright for Dark Samus.
Something tells me they are same model with few tweaks like Ridley in SSB4. Anyway, i prefer SSB4 model because its colors don't look bleak and just...uninteresting like on the left. It isn't colorful either, but looks better.Here is a side by side comparison of the Dark Samus Corruption import and the Dark Samus SSB4 import. I think the right (SSB4) model is slightly bigger overall, but they are very very similar. Also note how badly placed the shoulder spheres are on the left (Corruption) model. Well, which one does everyone prefer???
Use the corruption model but with smash 4's colors.Here is a side by side comparison of the Dark Samus Corruption import and the Dark Samus SSB4 import. I think the right (SSB4) model is slightly bigger overall, but they are very very similar. Also note how badly placed the shoulder spheres are on the left (Corruption) model. Well, which one does everyone prefer???
Its same model (maybe with few minor changes here and there, but not enough to be different). Whats the point of doing that?
i like the helmet of the corruption model more
When its finished.
Basically never
The idea is to have MP2, Corruption and SSB4 Dark Samus available to play as.
Thanks captain obvious but is there any dates?
Dates are everywhere, you just need to go out and get them. Pretty tasty too, if I do say so myself.
Look, you're not being disrespectful or anything but the constant asking of when Dark Samus is going to be released is getting a little annoying. I appreciate the fact that you're anticipating playing as Samus' mutated doppleganger but remember that this is just a fan project started by one sole person (who is thankfully starting to get more assistance) who is not getting paid to work on it. I'm doing this solely as a tribute to the Metroid Prime series and my favorite scifi villain of all time.
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Neutral B will be a projectile. Since Dark Samus is going over Pit I will have to play around with his arrows to get something that will suit her. I also want there to be an alternate fire function similar to how Bagan's Ridley works (B for Fireball and B+A for Flamethrower).
Nope. And a Phazon tendril graphic would be cool but like I mentioned, it's extremely difficult as it is to get the right effects for her existing moves. Unless, you can think of a boss or SSE enemy that has something that looks similar chances are it won't happen.
Well shucks, I can see why it would be difficult because not many custom PSA's have tethers... and those that do replace characters that already have them (I'll be surprised if I'm proven wrong). By the way, how are Dark Samus' aerials coming along?
The aerials are by far the most difficult part of the project so far. I can't come to a definite conclusion about Back and down aerials... so frustrating!!! But I just came up with a forward air and up air is pretty set in stone.
Nah.... that Samus graphic wouldn't work at all.
Were you looking for a standing ovation for your advice in the "molding" topic?
Of course, this is me we're talking about.Were you looking for a standing ovation for your advice in the "molding" topic?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Look, you're not being disrespectful or anything but the constant asking of when Dark Samus is going to be released is getting a little annoying. I appreciate the fact that you're anticipating playing as Samus' mutated doppleganger but remember that this is just a fan project started by one sole person (who is thankfully starting to get more assistance) who is not getting paid to work on it. I'm doing this solely as a tribute to the Metroid Prime series and my favorite scifi villain of all time.
If you've been paying attention to the thread, there are still a lot of things to be worked on. The Dark Samus models need polishing, specials need to be coded, and here aerials need some inspiration.Thankfully a number of people have stepped up and provided much needed assistance. @
With that said, I started the project back in July 2014 and anticipated a November 2014 release date. But as a result of life in general and wanting Dark Samus to be as polished as possible there is no set release date. So in the meantime thanks for the support but Dark Samus will be released when she is fully ready to join Smash.
Just to give an example of the length of time creating a move takes, let's look at Side B, the Phazon Scattershot.
If you pay attention to detail, you can see that there are quite a number of graphical effects happening during the move; the electricity, the blue aura at the tip of the cannon, and the particles of "Phazon" that are being pelted at Mewtwo.
Finding the perfect graphic effects and positioning + editing them to look just right took FOREVER. Hell, just discovering how to edit graphics and import them from one character to another took me ages to figure out. So the process is not as simple as copy and pasting from one character to another, the type of moveset modding that is happening with Dark Samus is happening from scratch, so to speak.
And then there is the animating part of the moves, which also can potentially take a very long time. The gif is the official animation created by Nintendo for Smash 4. It looks polished and very Dark Samus-esque, at least in my opinion. So in order to replicate it, I had to take the time to animate a new animation frame by frame. Anyone who has taken a stab at creating a new animation themselves knows how frustrating the process can be.
Then there is creating hitboxes that coincide with the graphical effects and character animation. It can be challenging to create hitboxes and collisions that "make sense" and are balanced simultaneously.
So creating a move actually involves multiple steps that all depend on one another!!!
1.) Graphical effects
2.) Character Animation
3.) Hitboxes and Collision Data
But there is even more to it!!! Specials require even more complex coding than standard i.e. A moves and can be quite confusing to figure out how to get exactly how you want them. That's why each character has Specials that are unique from each other- specials can also define a characters playstyle. For example, look at how Project M's Zelda's Side B functions. It is unlike any other projectile in the game and is a fairly balanced, polished move. So much props to the Project M coders.
So with Dark Samus' Side B, I've yet to come across coding to implement onto the move to really flourish it out. To get it looking and functioning how it does now already took a lot of time, but until I get a collaborator to help code it, it will take even more time yet.
Hopefully this write up sheds some light as to why development takes time.
Ah alright then, no worries.
i prefer the corruption modelHere is a side by side comparison of the Dark Samus Corruption import and the Dark Samus SSB4 import. I think the right (SSB4) model is slightly bigger overall, but they are very very similar. Also note how badly placed the shoulder spheres are on the left (Corruption) model. Well, which one does everyone prefer???
