D.Gray-Man Mafia-Town Wins!

[#HBC | ѕoup]

WL, i might have to go re-read Gorf later.

anyways, responding to your [number post here] i meant to say GLG, TPK didn't do anything at all to get a read.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Also, i think Zen is mocking Gorf or something, that's all i can get out of it, Gorf has been playing sheepish so yeh.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Or Zen actually knows how to read Gordito.

 

[Xivii]

^ correct

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

But there's a difference between reading him as town.
And placing your gogdamn trust in him to the point where you're just doing whatever he tells you to do.

I think Soup is town but Soup can easily blow that trust if he walks in here trying to lynch Red Ruy.

So, for the final time:
What the **** are you doing, Zen?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Not liking Zen either, might be more the fact he hasn't read the game is my guess or something but his listening to Gorf is making me go wtf, even more so when I told him to unvote.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Like, he comes in here and offers to claim, but then doesn't do it when Gorf tells him no. He throws his vote wherever Gorf tells him to and just follows Gorf like a gogdamn puppy. I really can't put my trust in it.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Alright, I'm Winters Sokalo and I'm the town's "Delayer". My ability is to delay the night action of my target in case he has one, including kills. Night 1 I targeted Gorf with it and we had a no-kill so I assumed I immediately hit gold with the ability thinking that Gorf was the one to do the kill [which I believe I delayed it onto the next Night phase]. I can not use that power against the same player twice in a row so I have no confirmation yet but I have already pointed out during Day 2 why I'm so sure Gorf is scum.

I'd also like to add that Gorf is playing exactly the same as Circus did in PF with his "yeah we *could* lynch XY but Gheb is scum so we *will* lynch him", which was a big part of town losing that game and there are certain somebodies who should see the parallels *coughRuycough* and know what the correct conclusion is in this case. Whoever read the final Days of Pulp Fiction Mafia should know what I mean and think about that a little harder. If scum isn't on that wagon I'm going to be baffled but I already *am* baffled about people who read PF falling for the same fallacies again.

glg - I can guarantee you that - will not come back to play this game. He didn't even respond to the prod I sent him in Ducktales Mafia Day 1 up to this point. Being able to lynch an inactive player without putting ourselves at a disadvantage on Day 3 is a rare opportunity. We have absolutely no input from this playerslot whatsoever and we will not get anything in a while either [DH is still looking for a replacement]. At this rate a modkill seems to be inevitable anyway and rather than wasting our advantage by lynching a useful power role townie we could also just cut the crap *now* and blast mid- to endgame with Ryu's investigation, my ability to interfere with the mafia and probably other PRs still hidden somewhere.

Vote: giraffelasergun

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Delayer? Can swing either way, scum or town. But now if you're town your role's only gonna cause more WIFOM, seeing how you'd probz delay me and scum would think to send in no kill, this OMG I'M PINNED.

The difference between here and Pulp Fiction, is that here, you're scum bro. And it's showing. Pulp Fiction you had J Circus and Ruy who for some dumb reason turned on you when you weren't in any position to be turned against.

And it's weird, you're going for GLG to avoid modkill when the mod won't be here to modkill and gave no hinting to modkill. And there's Zen's slot who's done less. And you think that I'm scummy.

Yea Vote: ******

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Delayer? Can swing either way, scum or town. But now if you're town your role's only gonna cause more WIFOM, seeing how you'd probz delay me and scum would think to send in no kill, this OMG I'M PINNED.

I've never even implied that I'm going to target you again, especially now that my power is known there's no point to it. Even if you were mafia you'd just have your scumbuddy submit the kill. If you earnestly expect me to use such silly, gawky tactics to "frame" you in the first place you pretend to know less about me than you actually do. The "OMG I'm Pinned"-kind of way you express your concern is a very OMGUS-stlyle of appeal to ridicule and has a slight taste of a freak-out reaction to my claim.

All in all this paragraph makes little sense. What motivation would you as a townie have to badmouth my role so much or my competence to use it? You're essentially saying that as town I would "cause WIFOM" by using it on you. How does this make sense at all? If I were town you'd expect me to play right into scum's hands? Yeah, this doesn't really make sense in the slightest.

The difference between here and Pulp Fiction, is that here, you're scum bro. And it's showing. Pulp Fiction you had J Circus and Ruy who for some dumb reason turned on you when you weren't in any position to be turned against.

And the same can be said about this game. This game I have you who for some dumb reasons turns on to me when 'm not in a position to be turned against. I'm not scum and nothing is "showing" other than me being actually concerned about winning this game for town.
The same can not be said about you. You're simply turning *anything* I say against me no matter how little sense it makes to do so. If I claim my role you pre-suppose that I must use it wrong no matter what and that I'm completely unreasonable and reliable and will do anything to frame you. Overreaction much? At this point your mind is 100% settled on the idea that I have to be scum, just like Circus was. And you're also unable to get out of your tunnel. And you *also* argue the same thing. "This time you just *are* scum and it's showing".

All talk, no substance.

And it's weird, you're going for GLG to avoid modkill when the mod won't be here to modkill and gave no hinting to modkill. And there's Zen's slot who's done less. And you think that I'm scummy.

So wrong, so bad, so scummy...

1.) Way to ignore all the other reasons I mentioned in regards to glg. Just because DH *may* not modkill him right now it's OK to just let him continue to be a liability for the rest of the game? Wanna mislynch me toDay and *then* have him modkilled toMorrow for a juicy double kill for the mafia while possibly losing two townies via mislynches? That could be 4 dead townies you'd throw away like that just to satisfy your own stubbornness.
You're *seriously* dumb if you think that just because DH isn't here now and didn't mention it yet that there's no way he's gonna modkill glg. If you looked around in dGames you'd know he's been searching for a replacement for the longest time. If DH doesn't modkill him we'll end up lynching him anyways. How about you start expanding the timespan which you give significance? This game isn't all about what happens toDay. It's not like the issues with glg are gone toMorrow - with your tactic of postponing the inevitable you're just trying to give yourself a free lynch going into endgame.

2.) Zen hasn't done less. Zen actually *posted* in this game recently. He's *here*, *in* this game. GLG isn't. Zen will post toMorrow, glg won't. Zen doesn't reread when he replaces in - seen Pizza Mafia? He'll just latch onto his strongest town read and will inevitably gain negative attention and probably contribute later when he gets a grip in this game. You're nothing short of insane if you think this applies to glg

3.) Oh my gog! I think you're scummy!!! That's a good reason to push for my lynch, right? Oh no wait, it isn't ... and you know why? BECAUSE YOU ARE SCUMMY.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Gord (1)-RR
Zen (0)
Red Ryu (0)
GLG (1)-IR
Asdioh (0) -
soup (0) -
laundry (0)-
Gova (2)-Asdioh, WL
Inglorious ******* (JTB/Gheb)(3)- Gord, Soup,, ZEN

 

[Gova]

Uh, wouldn't there have been 2 kills on N2 then if you delayed Gord's kill? Because I mean it's not like scum decided to no kill N2.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I assume that either the 2nd kill got "overruled" by the first or a Doctor/BP hit happened on N2. Or maybe Gorf isn't scum and N1 just had a successful Doc. There are a lot of options, which is why I'm not banking on Gorfscum atm.

 

[Gova]

Also, who did you use your ability on N2?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Nobody.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I hate to do this to you Gheb but i really only see your claim as a mis-demeanor, It revolves around Gorf and his actions, but we can't tell if this is specifically true.

I'm not saying that you could be lying, because when i look over the quote WL posted, you show great interest for gorf, however, why did you feel to not target someone again? with a scum-flip from July and the stuff EBR was spouting, he would have been a good 'delay'.

I'm curious as to what went through your head at that time.

unvote

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

And furthermore, are you willing to take the fall?

if we lynch you, and you flip town, Gorf will be dead in seconds, we can all promise you that.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

if we lynch you, and you flip town, Gorf will be dead in seconds, we can all promise you that.

Never would I agree to such knee-jerk nonsense.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I'm not saying that you could be lying, because when i look over the quote WL posted, you show great interest for gorf, however, why did you feel to not target someone again? with a scum-flip from July and the stuff EBR was spouting, he would have been a good 'delay'.

*Who* would have been a good delay? It's unclear whom you referring to.

And I used it on nobody because I realize that it can mess with other people's actions but I can't use it on the same person in direct succession so I opted to wait out on N2 and see if I can make myself useful on N3 where it's probably more effective [more information, possibly more claims/breadcrumbs to work with].

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Well it's probably gonna go down to be you or Gorf, and that's the truth, you're gonna have to argue your lynch for everyone a bit more.

I think i had a bit of brainfart there, i thought you could protect people by delaying them, but i guess it's just a shot in the dark if you do strike gold, my bad.

And good reasoning, just i don't know what to think of Gorf's sudden "lol don't care, you're scum bye" and it reads as fishy.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

What do you think of WL's bombshell and his push on Gorf?
what do you think of the case on WL from Gorf?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Even if Gorf is town I wouldn't trust his reads. His bias against people who push him are hard to miss this time around. Not that I approve of WL's "bombshell" myself - being part of it myself and generally dislike the "if X is scum we'll lynch Y asap"-approach - but it should go without saying that I think his case on Gorf has plenty of merit.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Alright, I'm Winters Sokalo and I'm the town's "Delayer". My ability is to delay the night action of my target in case he has one, including kills. Night 1 I targeted Gorf with it and we had a no-kill so I assumed I immediately hit gold with the ability thinking that Gorf was the one to do the kill [which I believe I delayed it onto the next Night phase]. I can not use that power against the same player twice in a row so I have no confirmation yet but I have already pointed out during Day 2 why I'm so sure Gorf is scum.

I'd also like to add that Gorf is playing exactly the same as Circus did in PF with his "yeah we *could* lynch XY but Gheb is scum so we *will* lynch him", which was a big part of town losing that game and there are certain somebodies who should see the parallels *coughRuycough* and know what the correct conclusion is in this case. Whoever read the final Days of Pulp Fiction Mafia should know what I mean and think about that a little harder. If scum isn't on that wagon I'm going to be baffled but I already *am* baffled about people who read PF falling for the same fallacies again.

glg - I can guarantee you that - will not come back to play this game. He didn't even respond to the prod I sent him in Ducktales Mafia Day 1 up to this point. Being able to lynch an inactive player without putting ourselves at a disadvantage on Day 3 is a rare opportunity. We have absolutely no input from this playerslot whatsoever and we will not get anything in a while either [DH is still looking for a replacement]. At this rate a modkill seems to be inevitable anyway and rather than wasting our advantage by lynching a useful power role townie we could also just cut the crap *now* and blast mid- to endgame with Ryu's investigation, my ability to interfere with the mafia and probably other PRs still hidden somewhere.

Vote: giraffelasergun

I can, although part of the reason I voted you in PF was a result of your D4 play. Still I agree I do not like Gorf's approach on this.

What was your reason to suspect him earlier? I didn't look hard on him until I got a guilty on July.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I didn't post anything about him before that, Ryu. My suspicion on Gorf came from the reread I had to do since I've hardly been playing on Day 1 at all [and only sporadically on Day 2]. I wasn't suspect of Gorf before you got the guilty because I haven't actually been playing before that.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ah ok, so basically the JTB head would know?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

He didn't really have Gorf on his scumlist on D1.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Hey GBizzle walls are anti town.

Didn't read anything, and don't plan to till later tonight.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

**** this

The glg spot has not posted in a month

I've got to do what I've got to do.

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In panic, rules can be broken. Sides can be changed.

It can be a huge boost if you succeed.

But it amounts to nothing if you get caught.

Bookman became a fine example of this.

Glg, Bookman, Anilla Order Member, has been modkilled.

Night 3 begins. Deadline set to 24 Sunday 11:59 pm EST

 

[th3kuzinator]

>: (

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Ah ****. I'm probably dead tonight, if that EBR kill has any sense of bearing.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I don't know why anyone let Gheb off the hook. That claim was atrocious.

I definitely like Gorf a lot more if Gheb flips scum, as scummy as Gorf has been at points.

Gova is useless at best. That's not ProTown.

If Gheb somehow flips town, I like Gorf a lot less and I think Gova or Zen can go with him.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Town are Soup and Red Ruy. Only people I have a scrap of trust for in this game. Everyone else seems potentially capable of stabbing me in the back some way or another and I don't like that.

Also modkilling GLG is necessary but I absolutely hate that it blew a phase to do it.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Wl, post again and you get the boot

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Soup, Arystar krory the 3rd, vanilla order member, has died

Day 4 begins. Deadline set to tuesday, 8/1, 11:59 pm EST.

 

[Gova]

@Mod, what is Soup's role?

@RR, results?

@Gheb, did you use your ability on anyone?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@Mod Soupa's role and whatnot?

Vote: ******

Ruy, results?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh, it's convenient that ****** went for the more substantial inactive (there's nothing from Zen's slot that we can go on) that flipped town. Just in case any of you squares needed more closure for a ****** scum read.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I didn't get anything for some reason. No PM or anything of the sort.

 

[Xivii]

I read through yesterDay which I feel summed up the game pretty much. Apologies for not being here, especially if Ryu wasted an investigation.

How the hell is Asdioh town? If he wasn't clear I'd definitely think he's scum. But that's not important I suppose.

Gova is the most obv scum of obvscums. The quote that Asdioh posted in #954 which is Gova's #879 is condeming enough. No town would EVER say that.

 

[Gova]

Ok, you keep telling yourself that. If someone presents a case that is scummy, it's going to affect my read on them.