D.Gray-Man Mafia-Town Wins!

[#HBC | Gorf]

******'s a non entity because he wants to be.

 

[Asdioh]

so he's begging to be lynched? lame

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

He's trying to not say something that will incriminate his remaining scummate.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I might do a count to check where everyone is votewise

 

[Asdioh]

Letting you guys know that Gheb is gone for a tourney and I'll be at a lan party until tomorrow. I already know who I'm going to be looking at, I just don't have the time to make the case right now.

I'm assuming the deadline means next Saturday, not tomorrow at midnight.

Aren't you going to say anything? This is your moment!



I guess it doesn't matter if we try to lynch him yet or not since the mod is V/LA.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

So I see JTB hasn't posted in a while which means I actually have to play this game now. I can't even read up fully though because I'm on an 8 hour trip today and got another 10 hr trip to a tourney this weekend. Please bear with me while I try to read up as well as possible.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Please bear with me

O.o...

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

asianaussie (0)
Gord (1)-RR
ThePaprikaKiller (0)
Red Ryu (0)
GLG (0)
Asdioh (0) -
soup (0) -
laundry (0)-
Gova (2)-Asdioh, WL
Inglorious ******* (JTB/Gheb)(2)- Gord, Soup

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

O.o...

No, it was right.

"Bare with me" suggests you want to get naked with someone.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Mind = blown.

 

[Asdioh]

well guys, turns out asianaussie's alive again

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

"mom, please bare with me"

...I hate you washed

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

"mom, please bare with me"

...I hate you washed

I know right -_-...

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Anyways, Gord what are your opinions of Washed and Gova?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I've stepped down from my scum read from Laundry for now, just because I didn't want to take into account that one of the inactives could indeed be scum... But thinking about it it's probz a better chance of that than of Laundry (considering that there are not only one, but two inactives), and if they're town at least they aren't in our Lylo. Gova reads town to me. The only thing people have on him, really, is that he's inactive. Which is dumb. I remember in D1 he kept asking me why I thought one post of July was good posting. He was, like, insistent that I tell him and when I'd get too lazy to go into detail he kept badgering me till I told em. I don't see why he'd go through the trouble as scum. And aside from that I totes don't see em as scum.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Obtw Ruy. You seeeeeeeeeriously gotta cop one of the inactives either toNight or toMorrow Night, just so we can have some sort of a decent picture in lylo.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ok Gord, which inactive is worse? Zen or the GLG slot.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Zen. GLG's not a threat as inactive scum, Zen is.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

It doesn't matter. You cop one, we lynch either that slot for being a guilty, or the other slot because the slot you investigate is an inno. Either way we lynch a variable and we have a VERY helpful clear (I mean, copping somebody like Soup isn't helpful at all, since we all know he's town anyway).

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Laundry. The point is to leave the decision of choice up to him, so his target isn't out in the open... Just in case.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I've stepped down from my scum read from Laundry for now, just because I didn't want to take into account that one of the inactives could indeed be scum... But thinking about it it's probz a better chance of that than of Laundry (considering that there are not only one, but two inactives), and if they're town at least they aren't in our Lylo. Gova reads town to me. The only thing people have on him, really, is that he's inactive. Which is dumb. I remember in D1 he kept asking me why I thought one post of July was good posting. He was, like, insistent that I tell him and when I'd get too lazy to go into detail he kept badgering me till I told em. I don't see why he'd go through the trouble as scum. And aside from that I totes don't see em as scum.

gova justification is trash and policy lynches are never scumhunting.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Tell me why he's scum, and I'd rather save scumhunting for people that we can ACTUALLY scumhunt with, rather than have two floating non entities around.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I never said which to target. He never said which he is. I'm just stating which is the better one. Am I the cop here? No. I'm just directing. He's free to decide whether or not to take my advice.

I'm working on it. However, your blanket defense of "he's inactive" is just a huge gogdamn strawman as well as a contradiction of what you're currently trying to push.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

And it's cool you want to remove the inactives. But that's still not scumhunting. I get they're non-entities. But one is guaranteed to flip town as not all three are scum and if we're wrong on at least one of the other two then we've blown two phases (that we don't have the time to blow, mind, as that second phase is LyLo if IR somehow flips town) chasing essentially a wild goose.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Gova hasn't been nearly as inactive as Zenslot or GLG, and from what we got from Gova I read town.

The thing is, IR isn't going to flip town, and if by some form of miracle he does, then we simply don't rely on lynching inactives until we have room to breathe.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I agree with zen cop, IR needs to pull a miriacle, and I'm not gonna make it to lylo probably.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Zen. GLG's not a threat as inactive scum, Zen is.

For the record I wanted Gord to answer to see what he said first to get his view, don't want to possible taint his reponse.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Doesn't matter Ryu I didn't even notice Laundry's post when I posted.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

My bad, Ruy.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I got an idea.

Let's lynch an inactive today, and have rr Investigate IR tonight, that way we're not on that goose hunt with inactives and if IR does come up scum upon Investigation it makes it easier on us.

If we follow that plan, my vote is for glg, most likely.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Also, we might hit jackpot that way, and avoid it, gheb isn't easy to crack and he can be useful on a clear or on a guilty.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

N o

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I dislike announcing cop targets. Although lynching an inactive today is not out of the question for me tbh.

It doesn't matter. You cop one, we lynch either that slot for being a guilty, or the other slot because the slot you investigate is an inno. Either way we lynch a variable and we have a VERY helpful clear (I mean, copping somebody like Soup isn't helpful at all, since we all know he's town anyway).

It's not that easy, it could very well be a waste of time like WL is saying and it doesn't guarantee a guilty on the other if I clear one of them.

Like so far I know who I got for town reads and I'm not copping them, nor telling them outright. Except Asdioh and myself whom are cleared obviously.

I do have a good idea who I am copping tonight, but it depends on today's lynch really.

Gord or IR really is what I see myself leaning on, maybe Gova but that is a stretch since I see the other two as much better candidates. An inactive like Zen or something is a possibility, but the actives seem better for me personally.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I'm not saying that an inno on one clears the other. Assume we lynch scum IR toDay and you cop ZEN OR GLGe. You get an inno on one? Great, we lynch the other of ZEN OR GLG and we get rid of two variables. Got a guilty on one? Awesome, lynch em and the game should be over cuz if there's more than three scum in a 12 man game Stew won't hear the end of it from me.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Copping an inactive is TOTAL win/win. End of story. Seriously. Like, for real. There's no two ways around it.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I meant it doesn't guarantee a guilty on the other, it's likely I suppose but not for sure win/win like your saying.

Yeah if I cop one or the other, that doesn't make the other guilty instantly.

Lynching them on the premace of making Lylo not a pain later, that I can get behind.

Lurking would be a different story, but these are inactive players. So while I despise inactives, I would only do it if it was to remove them from being detrimental, not because they are scum.

Could they be scum? Yes. Is them being inactive a tell for it? No.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Why do I take on other's philosophies on mafia so much if I agree with them?

 

[Xivii]

So who does everyone want to vote?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

****** .

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

The only reason I'm proposing it is because we have time to paint Lylo after we lynch ****** toDay. It gives us 2ish ML's that we can use to town's advantage.