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So Tharja won the Voting Gauntlet. Even with the 3x multiplier, it seems the end result was still the same. Even Robin with his Smash Bros advantage couldn't win. Well, now that this month's Gauntlet is over, we can look forward to the rewards. No, not the 20 Orbs (well, yes, 20 Orbs is great), but the memes. The memes following each Gauntlet are hilarious.

Speaking of Orbs tho, since Echoes releases tomorow, be sure to pick up those 5 bonus Orbs today.

And lastly, here's Lloyd's battle map, now with the added enemies and starting placements. No stats but you can start planning. Do take note that Lloyd has the Regal Blade, which grants him +2Atk/Spd when attacking an enemy who has full HP.
Me: Me: "Oh, i can just send my Florina across the river and take out the blue mage *sees bow knight* ohhhh, they thought of everything."
 

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So Tharja won the Voting Gauntlet. Even with the 3x multiplier, it seems the end result was still the same. Even Robin with his Smash Bros advantage couldn't win. Well, now that this month's Gauntlet is over, we can look forward to the rewards. No, not the 20 Orbs (well, yes, 20 Orbs is great), but the memes. The memes following each Gauntlet are hilarious.

Speaking of Orbs tho, since Echoes releases tomorow, be sure to pick up those 5 bonus Orbs today.

And lastly, here's Lloyd's battle map, now with the added enemies and starting placements. No stats but you can start planning. Do take note that Lloyd has the Regal Blade, which grants him +2Atk/Spd when attacking an enemy who has full HP.
Me: Me: "Oh, i can just send my Florina across the river and take out the blue mage *sees bow knight* ohhhh, they thought of everything."
Honestly, with echoes coming out tomorrow, I am unsure if I'll have enough time for the GHB even. >..<

But gotta hand it to them, the map got an insanely good thought out choke-point. I'd say a dancer is almost a must in here.

... or you go in guns&blazing with close-counter vantage blade-tomewielding horse emblem.
But the sp and orb cost of that... hah.
 
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Honestly, with echoes coming out tomorrow, I am unsure if I'll have enough time for the GHB even. >..<
Same. Well, i guess i will have time actually. I'm getting Echoes tomorow but i first have to get through the 7 hours of school. So i'll probably recruit Lloyd during lunch or something.
 

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Since I preordered Echoes, I'm definitely gonna get it sometime tomorrow. Unfortunately, I won't be able to play it until Monday because I'll be working the whole weekend and since I now work for 12 hours, I don't have time to do anything. I mean I barely have time to play Heroes before I leave.
 

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My copy's not supposed to come release day but instead a couple of days after, but eh, I work that day anyway and wasn't planning to take any work Monday so....
 
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I didn't preorder Echoes.
I'll get it eventually, but I didn't get it because I was unsure how good it would be back then, and now I just want to play some games in my collection.
 

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I'm aiming to get Echoes sometime during the morning hours so that I can play it for most of the day. Don't know if I'll manage to beat it in a week though. I finally started playing Sacred Stones, and I'm about to go into Chapter 11, but now with Echoes on the horizon, it seems like I'll need to set aside Sacred Stones for the time being.
 

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Speaking of Echoes, i'm sure you're all aware of how the Cipher DLC is being released outside of Japan, and how the characters featured there (Emma, Shade, Yuzu, and Lando) are complete characters with their own battle models, voices, and artwork. Well, today, i found out even more. These four characters will have Support Conversations AND Base Conversations. Regarding Supports, there are two sets: Lando and Emma, and Shade and Yuzu. In addition, each comes with a battle map so you'll have to battle them first (or maybe protect them like with Anna in Fates). You even get new items, based on the characters: Trainee Knight's Lance (Emma), Whimsical Lance (Lando) and Warrior's Blade (Yuzu). Shade doesn't get a weapon because she's a Saint, so she's using Magic instead. She'll likely have her own spell set though.
 

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On a different note regarding Heroes and Echoes, it's been a while since we had some updates about the Fire Emblem Fates manga featuring Leo, but the last two chapters have finally been translated.

Here are the two most recent chapters of Fire Emblem Fates: The Crown of Nibelung translated:
Chapter 3
Chapter 4

These two chapters take place around Chapters 4-5 in Fates. Yet again, the manga changes some material from the games and even expands on the world. We have some interesting chapters as a result.

Chapter 3:

Turns out Hans did survive the attack from the last chapter. He just went unconscious. We also learn Hans was demoted to labor in the mines. Knowing Hans, I'm willing to bet he will rebel out of it later on.

So as Chapter 3 confirms, Corrin went missing during the fort-taking mission she was assigned to, and now the Nohrian royal family is frantically searching for her. They are told to not investigate near the Bottomless Canyon, with those orders coming straight from Garon.

Then we flash forward to what happened to Corrin. Yep, just like the games, she's been taken by Hoshido, and it looks Rinkah and Kaze are doing well. Seems like they really did manage to escape after they were picked up by Leo and his retainers following his Brynhilder attack on them. Moreover, we also have a change from the games: instead of Lilith saving Corrin when she fell down the Bottomless Canyon, it is Rinkah and Kaze that did that job instead.

Kaze tells Corrin about how they will be arriving at Castle Shirasagi, and what follows is the same conversation from the games regarding Corrin's belief that she will probably be executed, but then she finds out it will be opposite. The Hoshidans want to meet and welcome Corrin.

We also learn that the Ganglari is a spying tool that is used by Garon. He is able to see everything that is going on from Corrin's perspective thanks to the eye on the sword.

There is some brief dialogue between Leo and Xander as Leo is about to depart to the forrest for a walk, and then we have a scene where Laslow gives his report to Xander. We learn more about Nohr's famine problems during this scene. Garon allocated a part of the tax money to stockpiling grain every year, but 8% of the grain stockpiles in multiple storage facilities have gone missing. Moreover, the person in charge of grain stockpiles was transferred out, and no one has been appointed to replace him. Seems like there's some corruption going on within Nohr.

Xander then orders Laslow to investigate all the grain storage facilities in Nohr to find more answers. Laslow is surprised and overwhelmed by this order, but Xander convinces him that he will probably find many girls he can flirt with on the way. He basically tells Laslow, "Oh please, this order is not as bad as you think it is."

The final pages of this chapter show Corrin's arrival in Castle Shirasagi. Unlike the games, Corrin does not encounter Queen Mikoto and Ryoma inside the throne room. Here, she meets them outside the castle. Also different from the games is how Mikoto initially approached Corrin. In the games, she was rather calm yet still happy when seeing Corrin again for so long. Here, she runs to Corrin so fast that Ryoma tells to her slow down, but you can tell that Mikoto is running out of joy to seeing Corrin again. I like that change a lot. Having her run toward Corrin with tearful joy fits well for a mother who hasn't seen her child for so long, especially when said child was abducted.

Chapter 4:

The beginning of the chapter shows Leo and his retainers looking for Corrin near the Bottomless Canyon. A cavalier is sent to Leo's location to inform him that Corrin's location has been found. Leo learns that Corrin is in Castle Shirasagi in Hoshido, and he will be a part of the army division to rescue her. I am willing to bet this rescue division will involve the other royals as well, and this army division will be the ones present during the Chapter 6 battle.

The rest of this chapter mainly focuses on Corrin's experiences in Hoshido. Upon leaving her room, Corrin runs into Hinoka, who offers some oranges. Wow, Hoshido is so prosperous they are able to grow many different kinds of fruit. First peaches, then cherries, and now oranges. Yeah, Hoshido really is quite a utopia.

Hinoka offers to be an escort to Corrin, and we also learn that she has been mending Corrin's armor as well, hence why Corrin is wearing a kimono for the time-being. As Corrin walks away, Hinoka has a short monologue where she understands that calling Corrin family all of sudden would be too sudden for her, and that shows she understand's Corrin's amnesia regarding Hoshido.

Corrin also leaves this interesting bit of dialogue: "Prince Ryoma, Princess Hinoka, Princess Sakura... they are all such good people. I think that maybe someday even Prince Takumi, as well..." It's an accurate portrayal from the games where most of the Hoshido royal family was welcoming towards Corrin's return except for Takumi, who treated Corrin with suspicion. Of course, Takumi is perfectly justified with his attitudes toward Corrin at this point in the story, and in the next several pages, we'll see he acts much less jerkish here compared to the games.

Corrin eventually runs into Azura at a nearby lake, and we have similar dialogue to the games where Corrin praises Azura's singing abilities as the two proceed to explain their kidnapped origins. Azura mentions her mother loved Nohr, and the tune she sang came from her mother's homeland (a.k.a. Valla). She also mentions that she left behind a doll her mother made, but Azura doesn't mind it too much since she has been welcomed into Hoshido. Corrin cries remembering what she left behind in Nohr, and we see Azura comfort her.

We eventually see the entire Hoshido royal family preparing for the ceremony where Corrin will be welcomed back into the royal family. I enjoyed this scene quite a bit because it really emphasizes what a celebratory event this is. I mean, Corrin and Sakura get hair arrangements, and Corrin is given a ceremonial gown. In the games, Corrin just showed up in her armor and that was it.

Heck, even Ryoma wears ceremonial clothes.



And I'm going to say this right now: Ryoma looks SO much better in that outfit compared to his lobster armor. I mean, the lobster armor has its moments, but most of the time, it can be hard to take Ryoma seriously when he resembles a lobster. Here, his majestic hair is more pronounced, and the clothes he wears resembles that of what an average samurai wore in traditional Japanese times. Seriously, I think this is the kind of clothing Ryoma should've worn during Fates. It looks elegant yet still badass.

Only Hinoka and Takumi choose not to wear ceremonial clothing. Hinoka rushes off to find Azura, while Takumi expresses impatience over the length of time it takes for Corrin and Sakura to get ready for the event. Well Takumi, that's just how girls are; they take a while to prepare for events like this. Ryoma even comments, "Time will go even slower if you're not patient, Takumi." Ryoma has a point: patience is a virtue, and simply dreading the length of an event really does feel like it isn't flying by fast.

Mikoto also states she can send an envoy with Corrin should she ever choose to return to Nohr, acknowledging that Corrin is probably wondering how they people dear to her are doing back at home. Mikoto also seems to be aware about the love Corrin's Nohrian family has for her, as the reason she lets Corrin wear her armor during the ceremony is because she recognizes the clothes were probably a gift from the family. Mikoto even seems to have prepared a Haori for Corrin for every year. Wow, she really has been preparing for Corrin's return at any moment. Again, it's a great addition to the story because it gives us a better sense on how much Mikoto loves Corrin.

Corrin decides to wear the sword as an "accessory." You know, if Corrin left her sword behind, the disaster at the Town Square that killed her mother probably would've never happened, and it really shows in the next few pages where we switch back to Garon's perspective. Because Garon can spy on Corrin through the Ganglari's eye, he learns that Corrin will bring the sword with her, and it is from that Garon states, "It's all over." Keeping the events and reveals of Revelation in mind along with the details revealed in the manga, we understand how Garon carried out the orders to execute that disaster in Hoshido.

On the way to the Town Square, Corrin begins to remember some of her past memories in Hoshido when she sees the cherry blossoms. Sakura comments that she (Sakura) was named after that flower, so it seems to imply the Ryoma and Sakura supports took place before the events of the game even started (since it was there Sakura learned where she got her name).

The royalty gathers around the Light Dragon statue. Takumi opposes the idea of standing beside Corrin because he "can't trust someone that's suddenly claiming to be [his] older sister." Ryoma tries to protest against that claim, but Mikoto backs Takumi up and says, "Takumi... still needs a little time."

Reading Takumi's impatience about the preparation and his disapproval of standing next to Corrin, Takumi doesn't behave as rude here as he was in the games. Even then, this rudeness is justified, as Takumi says it himself. Why should you completely trust an individual who is claiming to be your long lost sibling, especially when that sibling has spent such a long time in the opposing nation? It really shows Takumi's reaction is very realistic. If you don't think it is, I encourage you to check out the Birthright Drama CDs, because it's there where you better understand why Takumi acted the way that he did in Chapter 5 of the games.

Corrin mentions how she wants the two kingdoms to become allies, and that drives Mikoto to tears. Sakura gives her a handkerchief, as Ryoma proceeds to begin the ceremony. Corrin notes that she smells rainwater, which is strange considering the weather was currently sunny at the time. That's when she sees the hooded man in the distance take her sword and then uses it create the dark explosion that we remember from the games, and it is there the chapter ends.

I found it odd that Corrin smelled rainwater at first, but upon re-reading the chapter, it makes sense why she sensed it: the smell came from the hooded man! Remember how those shadowed figures from Valla appear during Revelation? They emerged from a watery substance. Just look at Mikoto's cutscene in Revelation and you'll understand what I mean. Considering that the hooded man is also from Valla, it now makes how the hooded man managed to appear outside of Hoshido: by emerging from a watery substance out of thin air. It also ties in pretty well into Birthright Chapter 11. There, the hooded man makes his return appearance, and he emerged out of the sea-water. Thus, those shadowed figures Corrin and the army attack during various moments in Fates are primarily composed of water.

This was quite a good chapter overall. It's pretty clear the next chapter will show Mikoto's sacrifice to save Corrin, Corrin's dragon transformation, and the resulting battle that follows. I REALLY hope Ryoma will not run back to the castle to pick up his lobster armor and instead actually fight in that ceremonial outfit he is wearing for the coming battle. That would be so badass!

The next chapter's translation should be out by the next month.
 

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With my 47 Orbs, i decided to summon the new Focus characters
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*sigh* It seems my bad luck from the Hero Fest is still with me. The only good thing i got out of this was Jeorge, which is nice, but even then, he's a 4-Star. The rest is just inheritance fodder but given that my first summon set was a bunch of 3-Stars+Azama, i doubt that means much.

Hopefully the 20 Orbs we get from the Gauntlet will redeem this but knowing my luck, i'm not gonna have high hopes.
 

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I pre-purchased Echoes on the Eshop. The moment it releases, I'll be able to start playing it.

In the hype for it's release, I decided do another playthrough on Sacred Stones. Then a fighter came out of the fog and 1-shotted Seth with a halberd. I hate that chapter so much.

Screw Fog of War, and every other form of fake difficulty while we're at it.
 
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I pre-purchased Echoes on the Eshop. The moment it releases, I'll be able to start playing it.

In the hype for it's release, I decided do another playthrough on Sacred Stones. Then a fighter came out of the fog and 1-shotted Seth with a halberd. I hate that chapter so much.

Screw Fog of War, and every other form of fake difficulty while we're at it.
Honestly, I hope they never bring back Fog of War.
I played Sacred Stones and a lot of the cheap deaths happened during those chapters and skirmishes.
The skirmishes made it a hunt to find the very last enemy and hope they don't one shot a unit.
 

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The chapters with the fogs in them was a bit too much for me to handle.
That was one of the things I didn't like about The Sacred Stones and The Blazing Blade. Moving around without a torch or a thief unit basically means you've walked right into a death trap. Man, the pressure was killing me there.
 
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Today I killed my extra Lucina to get to that 20K (Lucina is low tier waifu anyway) and finished what is now my main team
I like that each of them have a different move type too.
They are not great in the arena, but, whateva, I gave up on trying to be great in the arena....

I also lol'ed in that bit of text about Florina, so that's good too I guess
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Of course, budget should be no problem if you are devoted enough to feed her her (probably) husband for Distant Counter.
When are the memes of black widow heroes feasting on their possible dates gonna appear?
 

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Since Echoes is releasing tomorow, here's a fun little discussion: what promotions do you plan on giving your Villagers? There are 5 Villagers in total: Tobin, Gray, Kliff, Faye, and Atlas. Here's what i plan on promoting them to.

  • Tobin: Mage
  • Gray: Mercenary. I honestly don't see him being anything else.
  • Kliff: Archer. Originally, i was going to make him a Mage but unfortunatly, Mage!Kliff isn't as great as he was in Gaiden. Also, the only other Archer on Alm's route is Python.
  • Faye: Cleric. She learns Physic as a Lv.6 Cleric. Add in her high Attack, and her healing range is basically infinite. Plus, she's the only one with access to the Again Spell, effectivly making her your Dancer unit (even if Again has a 24 HP Cost).
  • Atlas: Archer. The only other Archer on Celica's side is Leon.
If you need to know what your options are, male Villagers can promote to Archer, Mercenary or Soldier. Female Villagers can promote to Cleric or Pegasus Knight. Both male and female Villagers can promote to Mage or Cavalier.

Now, besides that discussion, there is something i want to bring up. The original Gaiden had a few "dang it, i wish i knew that" moments. Kinda like Kaze dying in Birthright if you didn't reach A-Support with him. I don't know if these moments are still in Echoes but it's worth brining up, because you might end up missing some characters
Palla and Catria are recruited in Act 3. After the first battle of Celica's route in Act 3, if Palla and Catria survived the battle, return to Zofia Port to recruit them. Don't worry about Est as she's recruited much later on.
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I'm posting a picture here so it's easier to explain. In Act 4, Zeke is an enemy unit but he joins you (join as in, he becomes a green unit, his actual recruitment happens in Rigel Village) if you bring Tatiana to the battle where you would nornally fight him. However, Tatiana is recruited at Nuibaba's Manor. Zeke is potentially fought right before Rigel Village. This means you might end up skipping Tatiana and end up fighting and killing Zeke instead. So what you want to do here is, when you get to that point on the map, head to the manor first, so you can recruit Tatiana (there's a battle before that btw) and then, when you get to the map Zeke is on, make sure Tatiana is on the field.
At one point in Act 3, you'll come across a path split with two enemies: Deen and Sonya. Defeating one will let you recruit the other after completing the battle at Gerith's Fort. In other words, if you want Sonya, kill Deen. Or vice versa. Speaking of Gerith's Fort, if you try to proceed to the Temple of Mila without defeating Gerith first, Palla and Catria, and Atlas will leave you and you'll have to re-recruit them. That part is actually new to Echoes. In the original, Gerith's Fort was optional.
Basically, as a rule of thumb for this game, if you see a path split on the world map that doesn't follow the main path, be sure to follow that path first, before returning to the main path. And of course, be sure to check every village and fort. Some villages are off the main path, so again, check everything before continuing on the main path.

I pre-purchased Echoes on the Eshop. The moment it releases, I'll be able to start playing it.
What's your timezone? Assuming you have a North American 3DS, Echoes unlocks at 12 AM EST. So if you live on the West Coast, you can actually start playing the game today at 9 PM PST.

Screw Fog of War, and every other form of fake difficulty while we're at it.
Honestly, I hope they never bring back Fog of War.
Agreed. Fog of War is so dumb because the enemy isn't affected by it. Fog of War was at it's worse in Thracia 776 (fitting, because that's where it originated). In most games with Fog of War, you can at least see what the map looks like. In Thracia, nope! In Thracia, the parts of the map you can't see are completely blacked out, so you can't even see where you are going. Ch.24x in Thracia was probably the worst part about it. Not only is it Fog of War, but you've got enemies that can warp towards you, and enemies that can turn your units to stone. Only Sara with the Kia Staff can reverse the effect, and that's IF she's alive.
 
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The chapters with the fogs in them was a bit too much for me to handle.
That was one of the things I didn't like about The Sacred Stones and The Blazing Blade. Moving around without a torch or a thief unit basically means you've walked right into a death trap. Man, the pressure was killing me there.
What's really the kicker us that there always seems to be a unit with bonus damage in the fog. Not even knights and Oifeys are safe.

At least theives can hide in forest tiles to remain relatively safe while scouting, but that's just asking for the RNGoddess to come screw you over.
What's your timezone? Assuming you have a North American 3DS, Echoes unlocks at 12 AM EST. So if you live on the West Coast, you can actually start playing the game today at 9 PM PST.
Arizona time, so...sweet.
 

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Aaaand I got nothing from my orbs.

And honestly, Azura + robin made the new GHB super easy.
Just dance the red mage that kills the green flier.
And have a green mage you can dance, to clear up the blue units that you couldn't take out before.

(My robin is -atk, and he was able to kill the archer still at the beginning. b-tomebreaker is a life-saver against the blue mage.)
 

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Oh boy! A free 20 Orbs! Let's see what i get!
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The sole fact that Peri is there is the reason why this is my worst ever pull. I sent her home for Feathers, obviously.
Aaaand I got nothing from my orbs.

And honestly, Azura + robin made the new GHB super easy.
Just dance the red mage that kills the green flier.
And have a green mage you can dance, to clear up the blue units that you couldn't take out before.

(My robin is -atk, and he was able to kill the archer still at the beginning. b-tomebreaker is a life-saver against the blue mage.)
The biggest problem for me is the Bow Knight. Hawkeye and Merric can take care of the Blues, with Sanaki and Merric taking care of the Flier. Although, Sanaki can't ORKO Lloyd even with Swordbreaker, and seeing as how she couldn't ORKO Xander without atk buffs, i'm starting to think she's -Atk.

Note: I don't have Hawkeye and Merric on the same team. I use Olivia in GHB but she's nog helping much as of now.
 
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Oh boy! A free 20 Orbs! Let's see what i get!
View attachment 129322 The sole fact that Peri is there is the reason why this is my worst ever pull. I sent her home for Feathers, obviously.

The biggest problem for me is the Bow Knight. Hawkeye and Merric can take care of the Blues, with Sanaki and Merric taking care of the Flier. Although, Sanaki can't ORKO Lloyd even with Swordbreaker, and seeing as how she couldn't ORKO Xander without atk buffs, i'm starting to think she's -Atk.

Note: I don't have Hawkeye and Merric on the same team. I use Olivia in GHB but she's nog helping much as of now.
My +atk wasn't able to OHKO green nor Lloyd aswell. (in lunatic atleast)
As Lunatic units have absurdly high stats. Also Lloyd has high res, which... is why Azura/effie is so good.

Also, dancer reccomended, as you won't one-shot anything, aside the bow-knight with TA robin, maybe.

Edit: Yes, writing from work, and would love to play echoes...
 
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****, I got something from those free 20 orbs and the other 20 I saved up:

On my first set, I finally got myself my first focus:

Even though it's not Celica, at least it's still something.
I also got this:

Heh, who needs Saizo anyways? I'm gonna hold on to her 4-star self for the time being.
And this from my second set:

My overall results from both sets:


It's funny how I got a 4-star Jakob on my first set and then ended up getting a 5-star on my second.
Oh yes, I also got a 4-star Hawkeye, which is nice. Still waiting on my most wanted Blazing Blade character to show up though.

Haven't done the new Grand Hero Battle maps yet. I'll get to those eventually.
 

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I've been playing Echoes sonce release and I've been loving it. Supports conversations seem kind of weak, but it is nice that they're voice acted.

Anyway, I saw Fayes C-support with Alm and...well, now I see why she was getting compared to Tharja. It's actually a little funny because of how cutesy she looks and acts, and it doesn't seem to be super shameless fanservice, even of Alm seems to be building himself a harem here.

Also rolled a 5-star Mae in heroes. Not my most wanted from Celica's banner, but I was lacking a good blue mage, so I'm not complaining. I'n not fond of the art style she was drawn in, but I will admot it matches her design really well.
 
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I've been playing Echoes sonce release and I've been loving it. Supports conversations seem kind of weak, but it is nice that they're voice acted.

Anyway, I saw Fayes C-support with Alm and...well, now I see why she was getting compared to Tharja. It's actually a little funny because of how cutesy she looks and acts, and it doesn't seem to be super shameless fanservice, even of Alm seems to be building himself a harem here.

Also rolled a 5-star Mae in heroes. Not my most wanted from Celica's banner, but I was lacking a good blue mage, so I'm not complaining. I'n not fond of the art style she was drawn in, but I will admot it matches her design really well.
To be fair, they are likely weak, because we got fewer characters. Aka, bad ones aren't flooded over the good ones.

Can't wait to pick my copy up today.
 
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Anyway, I saw Fayes C-support with Alm and...well, now I see why she was getting compared to Tharja. It's actually a little funny because of how cutesy she looks and acts, and it doesn't seem to be super shameless fanservice, even of Alm seems to be building himself a harem here.
Without spoiling it, i'm just gonna say wait until you see her A-Support with Alm. It's the one that made me appreciate her.

Although i do disagree with the comparison to Tharja. I mean, for starters, she's not that bad, but if she should be compared to anyone, it's Marisha........if you haven't played Mystery of the Emblem or it's remake, then you're not gonna know who she is. Marisha was a Cleric (the first one you recruit) who basically obsessed over Marth.....even though Marth was already engaged with Caeda. Marisha eventually got over it but in the remake, once she got over Marth, she latched on to Kris instead. I haven't seen all of Marisha's Support Conversations, but the ones i did see, she mentioned Marth at least 10 times per conversation (that's likely an exaggeration since my memory's fuzzy on the conversations but you get the point).

Real quick though, this part
It's actually a little funny because of how cutesy she looks and acts, and it doesn't seem to be super shameless fanservice
makes me want to bring this up
While i don't agree with the comparison, nor do i consider Faye to be a yandere (or at the very least, a true yandere), this image brings up a very important point

Hmm, i do wonder why? Oh wait, i get it. Tharja and Camilla are (mostly) beloved (see Voting Gauntlet) because they fanservice, whereas Faye is hated because she isn't fanservice.

Legit, i've seen people who adore Tharja and Camilla turn around and bash on Faye.
 

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Looking forward to Echoes today! I preordered it on Amazon awhile back, so I'm looking forward to when the mail comes!

I also decided to spend my 40 or something orbs on the banner, in hopes of summoning Ninian or Hinoka. Hinoka has Hone Fliers, which is something I really want for my Flyer Emblem team. While I did not pull a Ninian, I did pull a 5* Clair and 2 Hinoka's! This is the first time I've had duplicate 5* characters. I don't know whether I want to merge them, or use one for skill inheritance.

Even more surprisingly, I didn't pull a single Subaki. My, how things have changed...! (At least for the moment...)
 

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While i don't agree with the comparison, nor do i consider Faye to be a yandere (or at the very least, a true yandere), this image brings up a very important point

Hmm, i do wonder why? Oh wait, i get it. Tharja and Camilla are (mostly) beloved (see Voting Gauntlet) because they fanservice, whereas Faye is hated because she isn't fanservice.

Legit, i've seen people who adore Tharja and Camilla turn around and bash on Faye.
Well, it's because one of them shows power with her axe in hand, the other one shows wisdom with the book in hand, and the third one doesn't show any of those traits. I'm─ I'm sure that is it....


Kappa.
 

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Ay, I won't be able to play Echoes until Monday so no spoilers here. Otherwise, I'll just sell my copy of the game on eBay.
 

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Ok, i just completed the Southern Outpost, so i'll post my thoughts.
I love it. I'm terrible at explaining why i love things but i'll try. Playing on Hard, the game provides a fair challenge. I had to reset because Faye died, and then i had to reset again when Kliff died (i didn't have the Turnwheel then). Oh, btw, the death quotes are full voiced, so i truly felt bad when Faye and Kliff died.

Also, Cleric!Faye is a Godsend. She helps so much just by being a second healer.

The visuals, animations, and voice acting are 10/10.
 

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I heard lot of people complain about bland map design, and while I can see where they're coming from, I don't feel the same way. The open nature of the maps allows for a ton a strategic freedom.

Also, I found out that scanning in a Charizard amiibo summons a necrodragon. That's kind of awesome.
 
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I didn't get SoV and I don't think I will for a while. I wasn't too interested in the game when it was shown off, but I'll still give it a try later on. I also feel like playing other games at the moment.

Also, I found out that scanning in a Charizard amiibo summons a necrodragon. That's kind of awesome.
Oh wow, really? I wonder if the other amiibo do something unique then.
 

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Also, I found out that scanning in a Charizard amiibo summons a necrodragon. That's kind of awesome.
I scanned in my Yarn Yoshi Amiibo and summoned not one, but two Gold Knights.

Also, the Roy and Robin Summons are pretty OP.

Edit: the non-FE summons are random.

Second edit: Ike is pretty OP too.
 
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Is it just me, or is the RNG in Echoes just completely f***ed? 70% hit rate might as well be 20%, pretty frustrating, actually. I swear, the game is intentionally screwing me over.

It's my only major gripe (along with magic costing HP, which I still hate and still makes no damn sense), but still.
 

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SPOILER FREE TIPS FOR ECHOES.

Promote Units Asap. Like, really. You get raised towards the base stats of the units, dragging it out longer, to "maybe" get stats above that limit isn't worth it, as around lv 10, xp gets drastically worthless for villagers.

Unsure who to promote to what?
Worry not, you get one of each class through external recruitment/story anyways. Just promote them to what you want them to have, or if you want to min/max, promote to what gives the most stats, or who would learn the most useful spells.

Kliff is amazing statwise as Merc, but he also learns insane spells as mage. You can't really go -wrong- with a choice.

Don't be afraid to abuse invoking. It's given pretty early for a reason. Just be sure to have your units evenly leveled at the start.


Opinion time?

This game is amazing, the Voiceacting, the story, I just hope it stays as strong as it's in the first two chapters.
Health used for magic is soooo good. It balances the fact, that they ignore terrain, which is kinda ridicioulously strong.

And thank god archers aren't op. Just... -very- annoying.

So yeah. Hope everyone enjoys themselves. Gotta hand it to them, despite me being a grinding lover, it wasn't at all neccessary. And I started with Hard+Classic.


Cool thing I noticed:

Up, down, left, right, up on the d-pad, unlocks sound mode.
On the title screen, I mean.
 
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Is it just me, or is the RNG in Echoes just completely f***ed? 70% hit rate might as well be 20%, pretty frustrating, actually. I swear, the game is intentionally screwing me over.

It's my only major gripe (along with magic costing HP, which I still hate and still makes no damn sense), but still.
Actually, I think they just got rid of true hit. The RBG seems really honest to me.

Anyone who has played competitive pokemon can tell you that 70% is completely unreliable and often fail you when you need it most.
 

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My copy of Echoes came in yesterday, earlier than I expected, which was nice. It also came in literally right before I had to go to work, so I didn't the chance to play it then, but I'm doing it now.

So far have made it to the first shrine/dungeon and got the Turnwheel, promoted everyone except Alm and Lukas.

Anyone who has played competitive pokemon can tell you that 70% is completely unreliable and often fail you when you need it most.
Can confirm this

it's so goddamm annoying sometimes really, the hax in Pokemon
 

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(along with magic costing HP, which I still hate and still makes no damn sense)
It actually does make sense though. The reason Tomes and Staffs exist is so that magic doesn't take a toll on the user's body. Valentians don't have Tomes and Staffs (well, Cleric's have Staffs but i'm sure it's decorational) so when they use magic, they have to channel it through their bodies and not an external item. Hence, the HP Cost. This is seen outside of Valentia too. In Tellius, Micaiah can heal her allies, but because she doesn't use a Staff, it takes a toll on her. That's her Sacrifice Skill btw.
 

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Actually, I think they just got rid of true hit. The RBG seems really honest to me.

Anyone who has played competitive pokemon can tell you that 70% is completely unreliable and often fail you when you need it most.
Something is definitely up. It's downright infuriating at times, and it needlessly prolongs fights because we simply can't land the damn finisher. My wife, @AquaAdminShelly, and I have begun a drinking game for every time one of my guys misses a hit at 85% hit rate or more. Down the bottle if they miss both hits in a double. Yesterday, an Entombed scored 3 CRITICAL HITS IN A ROW on a 3% crit rate. Luckily it was on Valbar, so it didn't do much, but still.
 

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Ok, so Saint!Faye+Alm Support Bonus+Iron Shield can actually reliably Nosfertank in a couple of situations. Her Supports with Alm can bring Nosferatu's hit-rate to a reliable 75%, and she's got high attack (this also means she has amazing range with Physic), and she has decent defense to begin with, which the Iron Shield adds to. Also, she gets a crit bonus from Alm as well. Tbh, if you make Faye a Cleric, she becomes one of the better units in Alm's route.

Also, Saint!Faye learns Seraphim upon promotion, so taking her in dungeons is a must, since she'll easily kill Terrors. Saints in general also have two passive Arts, one that heals allies that are next to them while the other Art prevents them from taking damage from harmful terrain.

Also, i find it kinda redundant that Dread Fighters get two passive arts, one that adds +5 to Res and another that halves damage from magic. Dreas Fighters are meant to be mage killers tho.

Something is definitely up. It's downright infuriating at times, and it needlessly prolongs fights because we simply can't land the damn finisher. My wife, @AquaAdminShelly, and I have begun a drinking game for every time one of my guys misses a hit at 85% hit rate or more. Down the bottle if they miss both hits in a double. Yesterday, an Entombed scored 3 CRITICAL HITS IN A ROW on a 3% crit rate. Luckily it was on Valbar, so it didn't do much, but still.
The RNG has been pretty fair on my end. I mean, yeah, i've missed a few 90%s here and there but those are rare moments.
 

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Something is definitely up. It's downright infuriating at times, and it needlessly prolongs fights because we simply can't land the damn finisher. My wife, @AquaAdminShelly, and I have begun a drinking game for every time one of my guys misses a hit at 85% hit rate or more. Down the bottle if they miss both hits in a double. Yesterday, an Entombed scored 3 CRITICAL HITS IN A ROW on a 3% crit rate. Luckily it was on Valbar, so it didn't do much, but still.
Oh believe me, that's definitely normal. In a game as RNG heavy as this, the game is going to find countless ways to screw you over - and you'll always remember the frustrating moments better then the ones that go your way.
 
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