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Im going to EVO next week using exclusively corrin. Who's all going?
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Good luck!Im going to EVO next week using exclusively corrin. Who's all going?
Not sure. I don't have Conquest. I'm getting Revelations though. I think that Camilla would benefit from the sorcerer class so she can get vengeance.Anyone have any opinions as to what Camilla's best class options are on Conquest? I'm tempted to give her some Spirit Dusts and leave her in Malig Knight for the cool Bolt Axe usage (as she's pretty much the only unit on Conquest who can use it semi-well), but I've heard she's better as a Wyvern Lord.
Also, on a non-Fire Emblem related note; Does anyone know why avatars seem to be broken? No matter what I do, any new avatar I try uploading ends up as a broken image.
EDIT: Never mind, my avatar seems to working now.
Yeah, i would just keep her a Malig Knight. She's the only good Malig Knight aside from Corrin. Malig Knights have cool benefits and its a shame that only 2 characters can actually use the Malig Knight properly.Anyone have any opinions as to what Camilla's best class options are on Conquest? I'm tempted to give her some Spirit Dusts and leave her in Malig Knight for the cool Bolt Axe usage (as she's pretty much the only unit on Conquest who can use it semi-well), but I've heard she's better as a Wyvern Lord.
I ain't anywhere near good enough to go besides I have yet to go to a local anywayIm going to EVO next week using exclusively corrin. Who's all going?
I believe Malig Knights also have much higher resistance than Wyvern Lords, so it's still viable to stick with her default class regardless so she can take out mages with a dual club. And the Bolt Axe is a pretty good idea for her to - its high might makes up for her mediocre magic.Anyone have any opinions as to what Camilla's best class options are on Conquest? I'm tempted to give her some Spirit Dusts and leave her in Malig Knight for the cool Bolt Axe usage (as she's pretty much the only unit on Conquest who can use it semi-well), but I've heard she's better as a Wyvern Lord.
Eh, who knows. I like them both too much. Just don't know when to use one or the other. Corrin speed makes me miss sheik, and Sheiks kill power makes me miss corrin.I ain't anywhere near good enough to go besides I have yet to go to a local anyway
You don't plan to use Sheik at all though?
You saw this too? Ridiculous. Wanna know something? I went online to see it for myself. Guess what happened. Just guessAnd this is exactly why i don't do online matches
On an unrelated note, wanna hear a funny (and possibly cringe-worthy)joke?
What do you call Water Kirby's dash"A wavedash.
Yes to the first question. Conquest doesn't have any thing for grinding exp except for one DLC mission. Weapons are important for targeting weakness, with things for dealing with armor, beasts, swords, axes, lances and the like but they are limited. Not sure what you mean by double promotion paths. Basic classes can master seal into one of two advanced classes, but everyone has a lot more reclassing options based on things like supports. Reclassing keeps you at the same level; you still pick up skills from earlier levels of that class (if you become a mercenary at lv 12, you still get the lv 10 skill once you level up).Just a question is it true that conquest plays like the older fire emblem games (as in without free grinding and a more heavy emphasis on keeping unit inventory in check) and do double promotion paths still exist in conquest.
Yeah thats what i meant by double promotions although im not exactly sure why reclassing is still a thing in a game where u cant grind seems fine for birthright but not really conquest imoYes to the first question. Conquest doesn't have any thing for grinding exp except for one DLC mission. Weapons are important for targeting weakness, with things for dealing with armor, beasts, swords, axes, lances and the like but they are limited. Not sure what you mean by double promotion paths. Basic classes can master seal into one of two advanced classes, but everyone has a lot more reclassing options based on things like supports. Reclassing keeps you at the same level; you still pick up skills from earlier levels of that class (if you become a mercenary at lv 12, you still get the lv 10 skill once you level up).
Also, I might be a bit late to this, but I just found out you can keep the final Yato form outside the game ending. You get the Shadow/Blazing/OP Yato before starting chapter 27, so you can exit from the pre-battle menu and it will still be in the inventory.
How does it compare to other fire emblems?I played shadow dragon, and I say its pretty good, is the remake of Marth Game, its not the BEST game but is good
(I give 9/10 to shadow)
Okay Bayo may have gotten nerfed, but not nearly to the point where she's Bottom 10. Cloud should probably be in "Best in the Game" or at least at the top of "Amazing." Palutena, Robin, Roy, Jigglypuff, and Bowser Jr feel too high up. Greninja and Mewtwo feel too low. Also, "Mario Sucks" and should definitely be Bottom Tier, Kappa. Just my 2 cents.I made my own Smash 4 tier list. This is based on how i feel how good the characters are. Only one character is placed on a specific tier out of spite and you'll see who it is.
http://smashboards.com/tiers/#4,10,22.Best in the game#49,58,45.Amazing#47,14,27,9,6,4,7.Pretty great#53,51,30.Pretty Good#56,41,36.Decent#26,42,8,40,44,52,23,43,18,17,20,50,46.Not great but not bad either#16,10,29,24,37,2,3,39.Could use some more work#35,31,38,13,12.Ehh with a little luck you can win#28,25,21,11,22,48,1,15.Uhh#19,5,55.?#34,32,33.Bottom Tier#57.Worst in the game just because<div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>#54.1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1
So tell me, what do you think?
Its hard to say because it was the first I eas played and my opnion could have some nostalgia, story wise is pretty good, and i find the battle mechanics better than in gba games, and for the dificulty I dont have sure but i think its easier than ike games and harder than eliwood Rekka no ken.How does it compare to other fire emblems?
Thing with tier list discussion is that everyone has widely varying opinions on who's good and who's not, and what the criteria for those things even are. The structure of a tier list is also a major point of disagreement: how should it be labeled, what does each category even mean (especially when things like "good" or "high tier" don't even have set definitions in the community), how many divisions there should be, etc.I made my own Smash 4 tier list. This is based on how i feel how good the characters are. Only one character is placed on a specific tier out of spite and you'll see who it is.
http://smashboards.com/tiers/#4,10,22.Best in the game#49,58,45.Amazing#47,14,27,9,6,4,7.Pretty great#53,51,30.Pretty Good#56,41,36.Decent#26,42,8,40,44,52,23,43,18,17,20,50,46.Not great but not bad either#16,10,29,24,37,2,3,39.Could use some more work#35,31,38,13,12.Ehh with a little luck you can win#28,25,21,11,22,48,1,15.Uhh#19,5,55.?#34,32,33.Bottom Tier#57.Worst in the game just because<div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>#54.1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1
So tell me, what do you think?
I would put greninja in Decent tier, his is a hard character but bro he is like villagers if you master him.I made my own Smash 4 tier list. This is based on how i feel how good the characters are. Only one character is placed on a specific tier out of spite and you'll see who it is.
http://smashboards.com/tiers/#4,10,22.Best in the game#49,58,45.Amazing#47,14,27,9,6,4,7.Pretty great#53,51,30.Pretty Good#56,41,36.Decent#26,42,8,40,44,52,23,43,18,17,20,50,46.Not great but not bad either#16,10,29,24,37,2,3,39.Could use some more work#35,31,38,13,12.Ehh with a little luck you can win#28,25,21,11,22,48,1,15.Uhh#19,5,55.?#34,32,33.Bottom Tier#57.Worst in the game just because<div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>#54.1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1
So tell me, what do you think?
Its just how i personally feel about how good the characters are. The reason i didn't put Cloud in "Best in the game" is because of his recovery. Palutena is where she isOkay Bayo may have gotten nerfed, but not nearly to the point where she's Bottom 10. Cloud should probably be in "Best in the Game" or at least at the top of "Amazing." Palutena, Robin, Roy, Jigglypuff, and Bowser Jr feel too high up. Greninja and Mewtwo feel too low. Also, "Mario Sucks" and should definitely be Bottom Tier, Kappa. Just my 2 cents.
Go on ahead. This tier list isn't meant to change opinions or anything. Its just how i feel about the characters.....anyway, there's a fair bit I disagree with on your list. I don't know if anyone would care to hear what I think though.
I honestly don't know. I just hate Wario with a passion.Also I take it you hate Wario. Just curious as to why.
I was actually debating if Greninja should go in the "Decent" tier when i was making this tier list .I would put greninja in Decent tier, his is a hard character but bro he is like villagers if you master him.
Other than that no complain
EDIT: FE villagers no the smash villager
If the part about the battle mechanics being better than the gba games is true then im sold i loved how the gba games mechanics were with its different map objectives and actually making the thiefs steal ability RELEVANT because certain promotional items and stuff had to be stolen.Its hard to say because it was the first I eas played and my opnion could have some nostalgia, story wise is pretty good, and i find the battle mechanics better than in gba games, and for the dificulty I dont have sure but i think its easier than ike games and harder than eliwood Rekka no ken.
Personaly I recomend you play his sequel after you beat it
Basically I think that Falcon, Corrin, Roy, Jiggs, Kirby, Shulk, Bowser Jr, Ganondorf are all varying degrees of too high, while Greninja, Mewtwo, and Bayo are varying degrees of too low. And I'd probably have Cloud bumped up to the top category. To me things look more like:Go on ahead. This tier list isn't meant to change opinions or anything. Its just how i feel about the characters.
Yeah, yours is probably more accurate. My tier list was based on personal experience, and tourney results (even though i don't watch tournaments that much). That being said, i still don't think Puff is Bottom Tier.Basically I think that Falcon, Corrin, Roy, Jiggs, Kirby, Shulk, Bowser Jr, Ganondorf are all varying degrees of too high, while Greninja, Mewtwo, and Bayo are varying degrees of too low. And I'd probably have Cloud bumped up to the top category. To me things look more like:
My opinion on a few characters (Robin, Doc, Shulk) fluctuates a bit.-not ordered within tiers-
Top Tier:
High Tier:
Upper Mid Tier: /
Mid Tier:
Low Tier:
Bottom Tier:
way too ****ing volatile/polar to actually place on a tier list:
I have no idea:
Miis aren't included cuz idk why the hell anyone would put them on a list when whether or not you can even use them varies so much
Sadly all map objectives is seize (only marth can seize) but this games have some awesome things like mobile balistasIf the part about the battle mechanics being better than the gba games is true then im sold i loved how the gba games mechanics were with its different map objectives and actually making the thiefs steal ability RELEVANT because certain promotional items and stuff had to be stolen.
Yeah that is a shame. ballistas dont seem that good of a feature as they only served as a means to ocassionaly hit you once in a million years and destroy one unit unexpectedly causing a restart ( also to prevent your pegasi from flying eveywhere) long range magic is by far the most impactful on your gameplay.Sadly all map objectives is seize (only marth can seize) but this games have some awesome things like mobile balistas
What he meant is that there are playable Ballisticans. But i think Ballisticans are locked to a specific bow, so they're not that good anyway. Anyways, since we're talking about Shadow Dragon, i though i'd share my own thoughts as well. In my opinion, its the worst Fire Emblem game. It added some good things, such as the enemy zone feature which lets you see the combined range of all enemy units. Unlike the original version and the first remake, Shadow Dragon does feature the Weapon Triangle. But the problem with that is that Axe users are non-existent after the first game so instead its just Swords<Lances. Another thing i didn't like was that Shadow Dragon does not have the C-B-A Supports that were feature in FE6 to FE10. I know the original Shadow Dragon and the first Shadow Dragon remake didn't have that either but that Support system wasn't introduced until Binding Blade. Because of that, a lot of the characters feel bland. Thankfully, they fixed this in New Mystery of the Emblem. Another thing i don't like about Shadow Dragon is that the art style is just plain ugly. And then there's the gaiden missions. You know how in a lot of Fire Emblem games, there are gaiden chapters, that are unlocked through certain requirements? In most games, those requirements are usually beat the chapter in a certain amount of turns, or keep this unit alive etc. But in Shadow Dragon, you have to kill of your own units to access these chapters. Let me repeat that. You have to KILL OFF your OWN UNITS to access the gaiden chapters. That's literally the worst thing they could've done. One of the main things about Fire Emblem is to keep your entire army alive. SD's gaiden chapters ruin that. Honestly, if you want to play a good version of Shadow Dragon, i recommend the remake that came with Mystery of the Emblem. Sure, that version had a few chapters and characters cut but its a much better version of Shadow Dragon than the DS remake.Yeah that is a shame. ballistas dont seem that good of a feature as they only served as a means to ocassionaly hit you once in a million years and destroy one unit unexpectedly causing a restart ( also to prevent your pegasi from flying eveywhere) long range magic is by far the most impactful on your gameplay.
Thats a stupid way to acess gaiden chapters what were they THINKING!?1? yeah ballistas are still gonna be super situational unless long range range magic is prominent and actually really good ( as in they actually hit) also im talking about the remake on ds and im fairly sure i saw axe wieders in that so did you mean all axe uses are terrible or were you talking about a specific version?What he meant is that there are playable Ballisticans. But i think Ballisticans are locked to a specific bow, so they're not that good anyway. Anyways, since we're talking about Shadow Dragon, i though i'd share my own thoughts as well. In my opinion, its the worst Fire Emblem game. It added some good things, such as the enemy zone feature which lets you see the combined range of all enemy units. Unlike the original version and the first remake, Shadow Dragon does feature the Weapon Triangle. But the problem with that is that Axe users are non-existent after the first game so instead its just Swords<Lances. Another thing i didn't like was that Shadow Dragon does not have the C-B-A Supports that were feature in FE6 to FE10. I know the original Shadow Dragon and the first Shadow Dragon remake didn't have that either but that Support system wasn't introduced until Binding Blade. Because of that, a lot of the characters feel bland. Thankfully, they fixed this in New Mystery of the Emblem. Another thing i don't like about Shadow Dragon is that the art style is just plain ugly. And then there's the gaiden missions. You know how in a lot of Fire Emblem games, there are gaiden chapters, that are unlocked through certain requirements? In most games, those requirements are usually beat the chapter in a certain amount of turns, or keep this unit alive etc. But in Shadow Dragon, you have to kill of your own units to access these chapters. Let me repeat that. You have to KILL OFF your OWN UNITS to access the gaiden chapters. That's literally the worst thing they could've done. One of the main things about Fire Emblem is to keep your entire army alive. SD's gaiden chapters ruin that. Honestly, if you want to play a good version of Shadow Dragon, i recommend the remake that came with Mystery of the Emblem. Sure, that version had a few chapters and characters cut but its a much better version of Shadow Dragon than the DS remake.
After the first half of the game, the amount of axe-wielding enemies drops significantly. And because of that. Sword-users suffer because they don't have an advantage.Thats a stupid way to acess gaiden chapters what were they THINKING!?1? yeah ballistas are still gonna be super situational unless long range range magic is prominent and actually really good ( as in they actually hit) also im talking about the remake on ds and im fairly sure i saw axe wieders in that so did you mean all axe uses are terrible or were you talking about a specific version?
Ah gotcha thanks.After the first half of the game, the amount of axe-wielding enemies drops significantly. And because of that. Sword-users suffer because they don't have an advantage.
For Birthright Corrin get's Hoshido Noble and gains staves.Pardon me asking but what is corrins promoted form in fates and does he/she get any new weapn types?