Budai578
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Phew, thanks... that was a close one.Yeah, they set the post bit to Top. You can change it back to Left in User CP > Edit Options.
I FOUDN IT IN A CRACKERJACK BOX lol"its Smashboards! She's Gone From Suck.....to Blow."
For Those Of You Who Do Not Know Where That Is From....dont Speak To Me....ever.
haha yes noodles was right twas I. sry about the terrible beginning I'm awfully shot right now. Not bad for X country though :]GG's Noodles! It wasn't as laggy as I thought it'd be, but still decently bad haha
I wasn't completely sure what was going on for a while lol. I thought maybe I did it on accident or forgot. Then I made it to your post and realized I wasn't going crazyyholy WHAT happened to smashboards!? are the posts all weird aligned now!? this is so annoying!
I'm seeing a dark helmet in my head when I imagine hearing this....ahh there we go"Its Smashboards! She's gone from suck.....to blow."
For those of you who do not know where that is from....dont speak to me....ever.
Spaceballs ftw."Its Smashboards! She's gone from suck.....to blow."
For those of you who do not know where that is from....dont speak to me....ever.
stfu noob :angry:wayyy too many tags here
Okay, here's my promised response about rao music. PLEASE NOTE- This is all my own personal conjecture, and as such, I may be totally wrong in my analysis and my conclusions. Take everything here with a grain of salt:
OK
African-American music has always been about two things: struggle and celebration.
AGREED
Due to their common ancestries and the similar people who influenced both, rap and rock are much more similar than most people will admit.
VERY F-IN TRUE.
Rock and Roll in particular was a more celebratory take on the foundation that the blues laid. "Sex, drugs and rock and roll" is one of the many phrases that illustrates this.
THIS PHRASE IS THE REASON WHY I DONT GET WHY RAP TAKES A LOT OF BASHING
And out of rock grew rap, an inner-city version of that good-time music. One can look at rap as rock for the economically disadvantaged: the tools required in early rap were far less numerous and far less costly than their rock counterparts.
MEH, I CANT SAY I AGREE WITH THIS
That party music atmosphere would dominate in the early 80's, and it wasn't until the appearance of rappers like Big Daddy Kane, Rakim and others that rap took on a more overtly combative tone,
AGREED BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT IT HISTORICALLY, PEOPL:E WERE JUST GETTING OUT OF DISCO, AN EXTREMELY PARTY STAGE
Music is a reflection of social conditions though,
NOT ALWAYS, BUT IT CAN BE AND WITH RAP TI USUALLY IS
and the 80's quickly became a dark time for inner-city communities. The plagues of crack, teen pregnancy and STD's descended on the black communities, and gangs and violence were not far behind. Beneath the gleaming exterior of the Reagan years, the cities were rotting from the inside out, and this soon found expression in the culture's music.
WELL STATED
It's not surprising that rap took on a more negative tone in the 90's. In fact, it was not the only genre to make this transformation. Nirvana became a mega-hit around the same time due to their darker, more topical form of "grunge" rock. But while grunge was dark, rap took a sudden detour towards violent subject matter with the success of the rap group NWA. Many consider this the birth of "gangsta" rap, where the topics focused more on selling drugs, killing cops and the struggles of everyday life in the inner cities of California. Soon, the happy-go-lucky and semi-combative styles of the 80's were drowned out by a chorus of voices that expressed, and sometimes glorified, the types of inner-city horrors that many people did not realize existed.
EXACLTLY. THIS WAS BIG BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDNT REALIZE THAT LIFE WAS REALLY LIEK THIS FOR SOME PEOPLE AND IT SHOCKED THEM, BUT GAVE THEM A THRILL AT THE SAME TIME, KIND OF LIKE HOW SUBURBAN KIDS TRAVEL TO THE INNER CITY TO GET A TASTE OF THE "GHETTO"
From there, gangsta rap spread rapidly on the West Coast, and quickly reached across the country. The boom in gangsta rap reached its crescendo with several high-profile incidents, culminating with the deaths of Tupac Shakur and the Notorious B.I.G. It was at that point that the industry seemed to have a gut-check moment: suddenly, people who were rapping about guns and death were actually getting shot and dying. Things quieted down for a few years, until the summer of 1998. That was the summer of Cash Money, and the message of rap changed again. No longer was violence the main topic: instead, an almost ludicrous focus on materialism took center stage.
I"M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT SPARKED THE BLING BLING MOVEMENT. I THINK IT STEMS FROM THE FACT THAT THESE RAPPERS WERE GETTING RICH IN WAYS NEVER THOUGHT POSSIBLE BEFORE AND DECIDED TO CELEBRATE THAT, ACCIDENTALLY PROMOTING MATERIALISTIC MESSAGES
To this day, the rap world revolves around who has the most diamonds, the most cars, the biggest house and the most women. In recent years, a focus on lyrical talent has resurged, with rappers like Common, Mos Def, Talib Kweli and others leading the charge. Still, they cannot compete with the sheer commercial power of 50 Cent, who mixed equal parts materialism and ghetto-machismo to huge success.
THE REASON BEHIND THIS, I BELIEVE, IS FROM TWO POSSIBLE REASONS:
1. MOST PEOPLE ARENT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO LISTEN TO REAL HIP HOP. THE LYRICS ARENT SIMPLE> WORDPLAY AND METAPHORS EXIST AND ALL PUSHING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND POP CULTURE TO ITS LYRICAL LIMIT.
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So, there is the history lesson. But what does it all mean? Why has rap music come to the point it is at today? I don't believe there was ever a "golden era" or rap: there's always been more crap than good music. But today there just seems to be so much MORE crap than good music.
THIS STATEMENT APPLIES TO ALL TYPES OF MUSIC
Music has always been a hit-driven industry, but it's gotten to the point where seemingly every week a new rapper is the "Best Rapper of All Time", and no one is interested in cultivating talent. They're all looking for the next one-hit wonder.
ACTUALLY I AGREE WITH THIS HALF WAY. ITS TRUE THAT EVERYONE NOWADAYS IS A ONE HIT WONDER, BUT PEOPLE ARENT LOOKING FOR IT, IT HAPPENS NATURALLY BECAUSE ARTISTS DONT FOCUS ON MAKING GOOD ALBUMS LIKE THEY USED TO. THEY FOCUS ON SINGLES.
These are the top five rap albums this week according to the Billboard charts (in album name/artist name format):
1. II Trill/Bun-B
2. Trilla/Rick Ross
3. Fight with Tools/Flobots
4. Still Da Baddest/Trina
5. Units in the City/Shawty Lo
I've never even heard of four out of five of those artists.
REALLY? I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ONE OF THE FIVE.
The formula for fleeting (but massive) success in the rap world seems to be mixing violence, drugs, and misogyny with some clever rhymes, but that's only 25%. The other 75% includes production and marketing. We are at a unique point in musical history, where the names of the producers are just as famous as the performers. Under different circumstances, we would celebrate this as those who are behind the scenes finally getting the recognition they deserve. But what this really means is that the producer is more important than the artist.
I'M NOT SURE HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS STATEMENT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FAMOUS PRODUCERS
People listen to rap more for the beat than the actual rhymes. In this climate, lyrical skill has degraded to an almost non-existent point. No one cares though, because the beat is hot.
VERY TRU, BUT THIS ISNT EXACTLY A BAD THING
Anyone who's listened to more recent gangsta rap has heard the same line in many different ways: I'm still hood. From Memphis Bleek to Jadakiss to 50 Cent, these multi-millionaires go out of their way to ensure the listener they're still on the block selling drugs, robbing, stealing, killing, etc., trying to "get rich or die tryin'". We all know that's not true. 50 Cent recently bought (and sold) Mike Tyson's former mansion in Farmington. You don't get much further from the hood then a house in Farmington with over forty bathrooms. As anyone who's spent time in the inner city will tell you, it is not somewhere they would want to be if they had a choice. So why are rappers constantly trying to convince the listener that it's not only where they want to be, but it's where they are? Rock music has the same destructive, violent and misogynistic sub-genres, but they don't enjoy anything near the level of success that gangsta rap does. What's the difference?
GOOD PARAGRAPH. NOTHING TO SAY. I DONT THINK THIS HAS MUCH TO DO WITH THE MUSIC AS MUCH AS THE MENTALITY OF THE ARTIST THO.
Frankly, it's because that's what the listener wants to hear. More white people than black people buy rap albums. These are people that are vicariously experiencing inner-city life.
They don't actually have to deal with the problems that these lyrics are shedding light on, but they like to hear about "Money, Cash, Hoes" and how many bullets a Glock can hold. It's fantasy to them, in the same way that Star Wars and Lord of the Rings are: visceral representations of a life they will never experience. But how does that explain the sizable amount of inner-city and minority people who also buy this? They don't need the vicarious thrill, because they live it every day.
GOOD WAY TO PUT IT
"Misery loves company" sums it up pretty well. The African-American community has been struggling for so long, that we have come to identify with, glorify and even love struggle.
THE N WORD IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE
If you get out of the hood, off the block, into school, out of jail, off welfare, out of an abusive relationship, married, don't have four kids by 25 or do anything positive to get out of the cycle of poverty and hopelessness that has locked generations of people in projects, then you are a "sellout" and you don't understand the struggle anymore.
AND THIS VERY POINT IS WHAT I THINK ALL BLACK/HOOD PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE. ITS ***** PATHETIC
Terms like pimp, hustler, gangster, G, hood chick and a host of others have positive connotations now. We constantly degrade each other by referring to each other as the N-word and the B-word. School isn't cool, you're hard if you've been to prison, and the only successful black faces you see on TV are those that belong to rappers, singers or sports stars.
MHM
One in three black men in this country are in some phase of the criminal justice system. Almost 70% of black children in this country live in single-parent households. There are more black men in prison than in college. Yet these aspects of our community are glossed over by our "leaders" who have the audacity to blame the woes of an entire race of people on the "white man", as opposed to trying to address the true roots within our own communities, homes, and families. We are not embarrassed by what is presented to the entire world as "Black Entertainment Television", a 24-hour parade of scantily clad women, iced out performers and lowest-common-denominator comedians.
I DISAGREE WITH YOU HARD ABOUT THE COMEDIANS PART, BUT THE REST IS OK
JAM
THIS WAS A GOOD READ WITH A LOT OF VALID POINTS.
THERE ARE A FEW MORE THINGS I COULD ADD, BUT THEY GO INTO A VERY DEEP HISTORICAL CONTEXT ABOUT THE AFRICAN DIASPORA, AND I DONT THINK THIS FORUM SI THE RIGHT PLACE TO DISCUSS THE TOPIC IN LENGTH
AGAIN GOOD READ. YOU'VE PROVEN YOURSELF YET AGAIN TO BE A VERY EDUCATED INDIVIDUAL, SOMETHING WE NEED MORE OF IN THIS WORLD
haha u wishoh and trademark when you gonna play me again so i can roast you lol.
Oh, how the mighty have fallenso yeah...i started playing WoW today. I'm a human paladin
the magic card was part of the joke. "i'm playing wow...MIND GAMES!", get it?LOL @ MIND GAMES magic card
ew don't play WoW alex, plz.