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Official Competitive Character Impressions 2.0

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The_Bookworm

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Lumirank dropped their first video on the LumiRank 2024.2 rankings. As usual, parenthesis denote secondaries.



41st: Sin:ulticeclimbers:
42nd: Peabnut:ultmegaman:
43rd: M0tsunabE:ultfalco:
44th: Sisqui:ultsamus::ultdarksamus:
45th: Shirayuki:ultinkling:
46th: AlanDiss:ultsnake:
47th: Fui:ultyoshi:
48th: Jahzz0:ultken:(:ultryu:)
49th: 33peranBOX:ultzombie:
50th: Lvl. 1:ulttoonlink:(:ultisabelle:)

HM: Lea:ultgreninja:
HM: Dabuz:ultrosalina:(:ultalph:)
HM: zackray:ultpit::ultdarkpit:(:ultrob:)

As a reminder: honorable mentions are basically players that would've likely made a specific section of the rankings if they had more attendance, but they did not have enough attendance to qualify for the rankings.
Dabuz is a special case for the entire rankings, as he initially planned on attending just enough events to not meet the attendance requirements (guess he didn't feel like getting ranked this season ¯\(ツ)/¯ ); however, the changes to the requirements mid-season meant that he had inadvertently attended enough to qualify. LumiRank team treated it as a special circumstance and allowed him to opt out.
Lea is another special case for the entire rankings, as he missed out on being a Top 50 HM, but was grouped with them anyway due to only being 0.04 points behind #50.
luminosity.gg

LumiRank 2024.2 Release Schedule and Honorable Mentions - Luminosity

It’s that time of the year again. Welcome to LumiRank 2024.2, the definitive Super Smash Bros. Ultimate ranking for the second half of 2024. Join us in celebrating the 50 players who set themselves apart from the field as some of the strongest in the game right now.
luminosity.gg luminosity.gg

Here are the rankings for 51-100 and 101-150, with their respective honorable mentions.
51st: chicken:ultdiddy::ultcloud:
52nd: Kome:ultshulk:
53rd: Nyonoknb:ultdiddy:
54th: Candle:ultolimar:
55th: crêpe salée:ultsteve:(:ultwario::ultrob::ultgnw:)
56th: Toriguri:ultbanjokazooie:
57th: Gorioka:ultjoker:
58th: Jogibu:ultfalcon:
59th: Akio:ultshulk:
60th: Skeleton:ultkazuya:
61st: Tsuna:ultgreninja::ultroy:
62nd: HaunterGV:ultzombie:
63rd: Yamanaction:ultsteve::ultluigi:
64th: RIMU:ultminmin
65th: Carmelo:ultenderman:(:ultshulk::ultmythra:)
66th: Mr. E:ultlucina:
67th: MildnaH.O:ultdk:
68th: Anarchy:ultgreninja:
69th: Umeki:ultdaisy:
70th: Raflow:ultpalutena:(:ultgnw::ultsamus:)
71st: Shion:ulthero3:
72nd: uame:ultolimar:
73rd: MuteAce:ultpeach:
74th: Ouch!?:ultwolf:
75th: Luugi:ultluigi:
76th: TM7_ZAP:ultbowserjr:
77th: MKBigBoss:ultrob:
78th: Eik:ultpeach:
79th: Karaage:ultfalcon:
80th: Monte:ultgnw:
81st: drybie:ultpichu:(:ultbrawler:)
82nd: Neo:ultcorrinf:
83rd: Just Blue:ultalex:(:ultwiifittrainer:)
84th: ElleGo:ultyounglink:
85th: Miko:ultkazuya:
86th: Bruho:ultkrool::ultkazuya:
87th: Tas:ultpiranha:
88th: Yone_pi:ultpichu:
89th: Supahsemmie:ultyounglink:
90th: Nao:ultmario:
91st: Goblin:ultroy:
92nd: AndresFn:ult_terry::ultken:(:ultryu::ultkazuya:)
93rd: DieGorou:ultcorrin:
94th: Ocha:ultrosalina:
95th: Mao:ultminmin
96th: Leaf:ultrobin:
97th: Tarik:ultgreninja:
98th: kept:ultisabelle::ultvillager:
99th: Beastly:ultdiddy:
100th: tamiego:ultrob:

HM: Toura:ultsamus:
HM: Guilheww:ultkirby:
HM: Rox:ultsheik:(:ultsora:)
HM: Moe:ultgreninja::ultduckhunt:
HM: Dynamite:ult_terry:
HM: quiK:ultsamus:
HM: Ploopy:ultgnw:
101st: Tsubaki:ultjoker:
102nd: Furararamen:ultisabelle::ultgnw:(:ultwiifittrainer:)
103rd: Kurofune:ultsonic:
104th: omega:ultjoker:
105th: Reno:ultbyleth:(:ultsephiroth:)
106th: mzk:ultduckhunt:
107th: PkChris:ultness:
108th: yuzu:ultrosalina::ultminmin
109th: tomisa:ulticeclimbers:(:ultkazuya:)
110th: Kuroponzu:ultrob:
111th: Noi:ultolimar::ultpokemontrainer:
112th: Dominator:ultmario:
113th: Marcos:ultrob:
114th: syadou:ultmario:
115th: Gachipi:ultlucario:(:ultsonic:)
116th: Chase:ultpalutena:(:ultmythra:)
117th: Kuhaku:ultdk:(:ultenderman:)
118th: Omuatsu:ultminmin
119th: Gackt:ultness:
120th: Shupi:ultfalco:
121st: Shinnnnnji:ultolimar:
122nd: Oryon:ultwolf:(:ultfalco:)
123rd: Romeo Santos:ultsteve:
124th: PeW:ultminmin:ultness:
125th: Malk:ultminmin
126th: Endothia:ultgnw:
127th: IcyMist:ultsamus:
128th: ATATA:ultness:
129th: Leon:ultlucina:(:ultroy:)
130th: SPARKLE :ulthero:
131st: NaetorU:ultpichu:
132nd: AwDaSea:ultdiddy:
133rd: JDV:ultpacman:
134th: Wolfen:ultbanjokazooie::ultkazuya:(:ultfalco:)
135th: Niyae:ultenderman:
136th: Futari no Kiwami Ah~:ulticeclimbers:
137th: Chag:ultpalutena:(:ultminmin)
138th: Free KayFlock:ultzelda:
139th: sssr:ultrob:
140th: Akari Mizunashi:ultwiifittrainer:
141st: Tsumusuto:ultdoc:(:ultgunner::ultyounglink::ultsimon:)
142nd: Raarchyor:ultsora:(:ultcloud::ultgreninja:)
143rd: Ryopei:ultsnake:
144th: Jakal:ultwolf:
145th: Sonido:ultsonic:(:ultsnake:)
146th: JeJeJeJa:ultkirby:
147th: Lax:ultchrom:(:ultsora:)
148th: LiiMac:ultlittlemac:
149th: Soar:ultsteve:
150th: Mezcaul:ultridley:

HM: Leaf:ultpeach:(:ultbayonetta::ultdaisy:)
HM: Many:ultalex:
HM: Bobo:ultsnake:
HM: Char:ultsteve:
HM: Xerzal:ultminmin
HM: Space:ultmythra::ultinkling:
HM: ΩRugal:ultcloud::ultjoker:(:ultrob::ultmetaknight:)
HM: LittN!:ultincineroar:(:ultgreninja:)
HM: Ogatou:ultluigi:
HM: Skinny the Pooh:ultmario:


As of right now, the only characters in the game not represented in the rankings as a main or secondary are:
:ultbowser::ultlink::ultsheik::ultganondorf::ultkingdedede::ultzss::ultfox::ultjigglypuff::ultmewtwo::ultmarth::ultike::ultlucas::ultswordfighter:
If HMs are excluded, then the list will include: :ultincineroar::ultpit:
If secondaries are excluded, then the list will include: :ultmetaknight::ultryu::ultrichter::ultsephiroth::ultbrawler::ultgunner:

Now obviously :ultzss: will later be rep'd by Marss, :ultfox: will later be rep'd by Light and Kaninabe, and :ultryu: will later be crossed off the secondary list with Asimo.
:ultsheik: may likely be rep'd by WebbJP later, but I am not 100% sure.
I am 50/50 on whether or not Lumirank will count Miya's secondary :ultswordfighter: (I wouldn't lmao).
 
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The_Bookworm said:
Lumirank dropped their first video on the LumiRank 2024.2 rankings. As usual, parenthesis denote secondaries.



41st: Sin:ulticeclimbers:
42nd: Peabnut:ultmegaman:
43rd: M0tsunabE:ultfalco:
44th: Sisqui:ultsamus::ultdarksamus:
45th: Shirayuki:ultinkling:
46th: AlanDiss:ultsnake:
47th: Fui:ultyoshi:
48th: Jahzz0:ultken:(:ultryu:)
49th: 33peranBOX:ultzombie:
50th: Lvl. 1:ulttoonlink:(:ultisabelle:)

HM: Lea:ultgreninja:
HM: Dabuz:ultrosalina:(:ultalph:)
HM: zackray:ultpit::ultdarkpit:(:ultrob:)

As a reminder: honorable mentions are basically players that would've likely made a specific section of the rankings if they had more attendance, but they did not have enough attendance to qualify for the rankings.
Dabuz is a special case for the entire rankings, as he initially planned on attending just enough events to not meet the attendance requirements (guess he didn't feel like getting ranked this season ¯\(ツ)/¯ ); however, the changes to the requirements mid-season meant that he had inadvertently attended enough to qualify. LumiRank team treated it as a special circumstance and allowed him to opt out.
Lea is another special case for the entire rankings, as he missed out on being a Top 50 HM, but was grouped with them anyway due to only being 0.04 points behind #50.
luminosity.gg

LumiRank 2024.2 Release Schedule and Honorable Mentions - Luminosity

It’s that time of the year again. Welcome to LumiRank 2024.2, the definitive Super Smash Bros. Ultimate ranking for the second half of 2024. Join us in celebrating the 50 players who set themselves apart from the field as some of the strongest in the game right now.
luminosity.gg luminosity.gg

Here are the rankings for 51-100 and 101-150, with their respective honorable mentions.
51st: chicken:ultdiddy::ultcloud:
52nd: Kome:ultshulk:
53rd: Nyonoknb:ultdiddy:
54th: Candle:ultolimar:
55th: crêpe salée:ultsteve:(:ultwario::ultrob::ultgnw:)
56th: Toriguri:ultbanjokazooie:
57th: Gorioka:ultjoker:
58th: Jogibu:ultfalcon:
59th: Akio:ultshulk:
60th: Skeleton:ultkazuya:
61st: Tsuna:ultgreninja::ultroy:
62nd: HaunterGV:ultzombie:
63rd: Yamanaction:ultsteve::ultluigi:
64th: RIMU:ultminmin
65th: Carmelo:ultenderman:(:ultshulk::ultmythra:)
66th: Mr. E:ultlucina:
67th: MildnaH.O:ultdk:
68th: Anarchy:ultgreninja:
69th: Umeki:ultdaisy:
70th: Raflow:ultpalutena:(:ultgnw::ultsamus:)
71st: Shion:ulthero3:
72nd: uame:ultolimar:
73rd: MuteAce:ultpeach:
74th: Ouch!?:ultwolf:
75th: Luugi:ultluigi:
76th: TM7_ZAP:ultbowserjr:
77th: MKBigBoss:ultrob:
78th: Eik:ultpeach:
79th: Karaage:ultfalcon:
80th: Monte:ultgnw:
81st: drybie:ultpichu:(:ultbrawler:)
82nd: Neo:ultcorrinf:
83rd: Just Blue:ultalex:(:ultwiifittrainer:)
84th: ElleGo:ultyounglink:
85th: Miko:ultkazuya:
86th: Bruho:ultkrool::ultkazuya:
87th: Tas:ultpiranha:
88th: Yone_pi:ultpichu:
89th: Supahsemmie:ultyounglink:
90th: Nao:ultmario:
91st: Goblin:ultroy:
92nd: AndresFn:ult_terry::ultken:(:ultryu::ultkazuya:)
93rd: DieGorou:ultcorrin:
94th: Ocha:ultrosalina:
95th: Mao:ultminmin
96th: Leaf:ultrobin:
97th: Tarik:ultgreninja:
98th: kept:ultisabelle::ultvillager:
99th: Beastly:ultdiddy:
100th: tamiego:ultrob:

HM: Toura:ultsamus:
HM: Guilheww:ultkirby:
HM: Rox:ultsheik:(:ultsora:)
HM: Moe:ultgreninja::ultduckhunt:
HM: Dynamite:ult_terry:
HM: quiK:ultsamus:
HM: Ploopy:ultgnw:
101st: Tsubaki:ultjoker:
102nd: Furararamen:ultisabelle::ultgnw:(:ultwiifittrainer:)
103rd: Kurofune:ultsonic:
104th: omega:ultjoker:
105th: Reno:ultbyleth:(:ultsephiroth:)
106th: mzk:ultduckhunt:
107th: PkChris:ultness:
108th: yuzu:ultrosalina::ultminmin
109th: tomisa:ulticeclimbers:(:ultkazuya:)
110th: Kuroponzu:ultrob:
111th: Noi:ultolimar::ultpokemontrainer:
112th: Dominator:ultmario:
113th: Marcos:ultrob:
114th: syadou:ultmario:
115th: Gachipi:ultlucario:(:ultsonic:)
116th: Chase:ultpalutena:(:ultmythra:)
117th: Kuhaku:ultdk:(:ultenderman:)
118th: Omuatsu:ultminmin
119th: Gackt:ultness:
120th: Shupi:ultfalco:
121st: Shinnnnnji:ultolimar:
122nd: Oryon:ultwolf:(:ultfalco:)
123rd: Romeo Santos:ultsteve:
124th: PeW:ultminmin:ultness:
125th: Malk:ultminmin
126th: Endothia:ultgnw:
127th: IcyMist:ultsamus:
128th: ATATA:ultness:
129th: Leon:ultlucina:(:ultroy:)
130th: SPARKLE :ulthero:
131st: NaetorU:ultpichu:
132nd: AwDaSea:ultdiddy:
133rd: JDV:ultpacman:
134th: Wolfen:ultbanjokazooie::ultkazuya:(:ultfalco:)
135th: Niyae:ultenderman:
136th: Futari no Kiwami Ah~:ulticeclimbers:
137th: Chag:ultpalutena:(:ultminmin)
138th: Free KayFlock:ultzelda:
139th: sssr:ultrob:
140th: Akari Mizunashi:ultwiifittrainer:
141st: Tsumusuto:ultdoc:(:ultgunner::ultyounglink::ultsimon:)
142nd: Raarchyor:ultsora:(:ultcloud::ultgreninja:)
143rd: Ryopei:ultsnake:
144th: Jakal:ultwolf:
145th: Sonido:ultsonic:(:ultsnake:)
146th: JeJeJeJa:ultkirby:
147th: Lax:ultchrom:(:ultsora:)
148th: LiiMac:ultlittlemac:
149th: Soar:ultsteve:
150th: Mezcaul:ultridley:

HM: Leaf:ultpeach:(:ultbayonetta::ultdaisy:)
HM: Many:ultalex:
HM: Bobo:ultsnake:
HM: Char:ultsteve:
HM: Xerzal:ultminmin
HM: Space:ultmythra::ultinkling:
HM: ΩRugal:ultcloud::ultjoker:(:ultrob::ultmetaknight:)
HM: LittN!:ultincineroar:(:ultgreninja:)
HM: Ogatou:ultluigi:
HM: Skinny the Pooh:ultmario:


As of right now, the only characters in the game not represented in the rankings as a main or secondary are:
:ultbowser::ultlink::ultsheik::ultganondorf::ultkingdedede::ultzss::ultfox::ultjigglypuff::ultmewtwo::ultmarth::ultike::ultlucas::ultswordfighter:
If HMs are excluded, then the list will include: :ultincineroar::ultpit:
If secondaries are excluded, then the list will include: :ultmetaknight::ultryu::ultrichter::ultsephiroth::ultbrawler::ultgunner:

Now obviously :ultzss: will later be rep'd by Marss, :ultfox: will later be rep'd by Light and Kaninabe, and :ultryu: will later be crossed off the secondary list with Asimo.
:ultsheik: may likely be rep'd by WebbJP later, but I am not 100% sure.
I am 50/50 on whether or not Lumirank will count Miya's secondary :ultswordfighter: (I wouldn't lmao).
Click to expand...
The top 20 and rest of top 50 have been confirmed by player cards

Remaining 1-20 players (deduced from H2Hs on cards):

acola, Asimo, Doramigi, Glutonny, Hurt, Kola, Light, Lima, Maister, Mkleo, Miya, Raru, SHADIC, Shuton, Snow, Sonix, Sparg0, Syrup, Tweek, and Yoshidora

Remaining 21-40 players:

Akakikusu, alice, BeastModePaul, KEN, Lui$, MASA, Marss, Navy, Onin, Raki, Rarikkusu, Riddles, Ryuoh, ShinyMark, Taikei, TamaPDaifuku, Tea, WaKa, Wrath and Zomba
 
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[Edit: 1/1/25] The 2nd video is up. From here on, I will simply update this post for each of the remaining parts, which will happen in the next few days.
[Edit: 1/2/25] 3rd video is up
[Edit: 1/3/25] 4th video is up
[Edit: 1/4/25] Final video is up




1st: Sparg0:ultcloud:(:ultmythra:)
2nd: Miya:ultgnw:(:ultsteve:)
3rd: acola:ultsteve:(:ultmythra:)
4th: Light:ultfox:
5th: Sonix:ultsonic:
6th: Raru:ultluigi:
7th: Shuton:ultolimar::ultmythra:
8th: MkLeo:ultjoker:(:ultmetaknight:)
9th: Asimo:ultryu:
10th: Tweek:ultdiddy:

11th: Doramigi:ultminmin
12th: Hurt:ultsnake:
13th: Glutonny:ultwario:
14th: Syrup:ultalex:(:ultness:)
15th: Lima:ultbayonetta1:
16th: SHADIC:ultcorrinf:
17th: Maister:ultgnw:
18th: Yoshidora:ultyoshi:
19th: Snow:ultmario:(:ultmythra:)
20th: Kola:ultroy:(:ultcloud:)
21st: Zomba:ultrob:(:ultdarkpit:)
22nd: Onin:ultalex:(:ultrob:)
23rd: Marss:ultzss:
24th: ShinyMark:ultpikachu:(:ultmarth:)
25th: Tea:ultkazuya::ultpacman:
26th: KEN:ultsonic:
27th: Ryuoh:ultdiddy:
28th: Akakikusu:ulthero4:
29th: alice:ultroy::ultkazuya:
30th: BeastModePaul:ulthero:(:ultsephiroth:)
31st: Riddles:ult_terry::ultkazuya:
32nd: TamaPDaifuku:ultbayonetta:
33rd: Rarikkusu:ultfalco:(:ultdk::ultsteve:)
34th: Raki:ultalex::ultkazuya:
35th: Wrath:ultsonic:
36th: Lui$:ultpalutena:(:ultrob:)
37th: Navy:ultluigi:
38th: Taikei:ultsonic:
39th: WaKa:ultluigi:(:ultrob:)
40th: MASA:ultfalco:
41st: Sin:ulticeclimbers:
42nd: Peabnut:ultmegaman:
43rd: M0tsunabE:ultfalco:
44th: Sisqui:ultsamus::ultdarksamus:
45th: Shirayuki:ultinkling:
46th: AlanDiss:ultsnake:
47th: Fui:ultyoshi:
48th: Jahzz0:ultken:(:ultryu:)
49th: 33peranBOX:ultzombie:
50th: Lvl. 1:ulttoonlink:(:ultisabelle:)

HM: Lea:ultgreninja:
HM: Dabuz:ultrosalina:(:ultalph:)
HM: zackray:ultpit::ultdarkpit:(:ultrob:)


51st: chicken:ultdiddy::ultcloud:
52nd: Kome:ultshulk:
53rd: Nyonoknb:ultdiddy:
54th: Candle:ultolimar:
55th: crêpe salée:ultsteve:(:ultwario::ultrob::ultgnw:)
56th: Toriguri:ultbanjokazooie:
57th: Gorioka:ultjoker:
58th: Jogibu:ultfalcon:
59th: Akio:ultshulk:
60th: Skeleton:ultkazuya:
61st: Tsuna:ultgreninja::ultroy:
62nd: HaunterGV:ultzombie:
63rd: Yamanaction:ultsteve::ultluigi:
64th: RIMU:ultminmin
65th: Carmelo:ultenderman:(:ultshulk::ultmythra:)
66th: Mr. E:ultlucina:
67th: MildnaH.O:ultdk:
68th: Anarchy:ultgreninja:
69th: Umeki:ultdaisy:
70th: Raflow:ultpalutena:(:ultgnw::ultsamus:)
71st: Shion:ulthero3:
72nd: uame:ultolimar:
73rd: MuteAce:ultpeach:
74th: Ouch!?:ultwolf:
75th: Luugi:ultluigi:
76th: TM7_ZAP:ultbowserjr:
77th: MKBigBoss:ultrob:
78th: Eik:ultpeach:
79th: Karaage:ultfalcon:
80th: Monte:ultgnw:
81st: drybie:ultpichu:(:ultbrawler:)
82nd: Neo:ultcorrinf:
83rd: Just Blue:ultalex:(:ultwiifittrainer:)
84th: ElleGo:ultyounglink:
85th: Miko:ultkazuya:
86th: Bruho:ultkrool::ultkazuya:
87th: Tas:ultpiranha:
88th: Yone_pi:ultpichu:
89th: Supahsemmie:ultyounglink:
90th: Nao:ultmario:
91st: Goblin:ultroy:
92nd: AndresFn:ult_terry::ultken:(:ultryu::ultkazuya:)
93rd: DieGorou:ultcorrin:
94th: Ocha:ultrosalina:
95th: Mao:ultminmin
96th: Leaf:ultrobin:
97th: Tarik:ultgreninja:
98th: kept:ultisabelle::ultvillager:
99th: Beastly:ultdiddy:
100th: tamiego:ultrob:

HM: Toura:ultsamus:
HM: Guilheww:ultkirby:
HM: Rox:ultsheik:(:ultsora:)
HM: Moe:ultgreninja::ultduckhunt:
HM: Dynamite:ult_terry:
HM: quiK:ultsamus:
HM: Ploopy:ultgnw:
101st: Tsubaki:ultjoker:
102nd: Furararamen:ultisabelle::ultgnw:(:ultwiifittrainer:)
103rd: Kurofune:ultsonic:
104th: omega:ultjoker:
105th: Reno:ultbyleth:(:ultsephiroth:)
106th: mzk:ultduckhunt:
107th: PkChris:ultness:
108th: yuzu:ultrosalina::ultminmin
109th: tomisa:ulticeclimbers:(:ultkazuya:)
110th: Kuroponzu:ultrob:
111th: Noi:ultolimar::ultpokemontrainer:
112th: Dominator:ultmario:
113th: Marcos:ultrob:
114th: syadou:ultmario:
115th: Gachipi:ultlucario:(:ultsonic:)
116th: Chase:ultpalutena:(:ultmythra:)
117th: Kuhaku:ultdk:(:ultenderman:)
118th: Omuatsu:ultminmin
119th: Gackt:ultness:
120th: Shupi:ultfalco:
121st: Shinnnnnji:ultolimar:
122nd: Oryon:ultwolf:(:ultfalco:)
123rd: Romeo Santos:ultsteve:
124th: PeW:ultminmin:ultness:
125th: Malk:ultminmin
126th: Endothia:ultgnw:
127th: IcyMist:ultsamus:
128th: ATATA:ultness:
129th: Leon:ultlucina:(:ultroy:)
130th: SPARKLE :ulthero:
131st: NaetorU:ultpichu:
132nd: AwDaSea:ultdiddy:
133rd: JDV:ultpacman:
134th: Wolfen:ultbanjokazooie::ultkazuya:(:ultfalco:)
135th: Niyae:ultenderman:
136th: Futari no Kiwami Ah~:ulticeclimbers:
137th: Chag:ultpalutena:(:ultminmin)
138th: Free KayFlock:ultzelda:
139th: sssr:ultrob:
140th: Akari Mizunashi:ultwiifittrainer:
141st: Tsumusuto:ultdoc:(:ultgunner::ultyounglink::ultsimon:)
142nd: Raarchyor:ultsora:(:ultcloud::ultgreninja:)
143rd: Ryopei:ultsnake:
144th: Jakal:ultwolf:
145th: Sonido:ultsonic:(:ultsnake:)
146th: JeJeJeJa:ultkirby:
147th: Lax:ultchrom:(:ultsora:)
148th: LiiMac:ultlittlemac:
149th: Soar:ultsteve:
150th: Mezcaul:ultridley:

HM: Leaf:ultpeach:(:ultbayonetta::ultdaisy:)
HM: Many:ultalex:
HM: Bobo:ultsnake:
HM: Char:ultsteve:
HM: Xerzal:ultminmin
HM: Space:ultmythra::ultinkling:
HM: ΩRugal:ultcloud::ultjoker:(:ultrob::ultmetaknight:)
HM: LittN!:ultincineroar:(:ultgreninja:)
HM: Ogatou:ultluigi:
HM: Skinny the Pooh:ultmario:


The only characters in the game not represented in the rankings as a main or secondary are: :ultbowser::ultlink::ultganondorf::ultkingdedede::ultjigglypuff::ultmewtwo::ultike::ultlucas::ultswordfighter:
If HMs are excluded, then the list will include: :ultsheik::ultincineroar::ultpit:
If secondaries are excluded, then the list will include: :ultmetaknight::ultmarth::ultpit::ultrichter::ultsephiroth::ultbrawler::ultgunner:
 
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Apparently there was a big tournament I was completely unaware of called Dr. Insano's Bonfire that happened 4 months ago. It had some notable players like Hurt, Ken and Skyjay. I posted the link if anyone wants to check it out.
 
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Posting this here for notification purposes, but the entirety of the Lumirank 2024.2 has been posted. My post above has all of the rankings.

Only real surprise is Light over Sonix, but each of the rankings didn't really pose too much surprise to me.
 
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The_Bookworm said:
Posting this here for notification purposes, but the entirety of the Lumirank 2024.2 has been posted. My post above has all of the rankings.

Only real surprise is Light over Sonix, but each of the rankings didn't really pose too much surprise to me.
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You know they weren't supposed to come out at this time, right? They released early and now you leaked them.
 
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You know they weren't supposed to come out at this time, right? They released early and now you leaked them.
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Oh really? I was simply looking at their website and noticed that it was there, so I assume it is public knowledge now.

I guess I will hide the rankings until they are officially posted.

Edit: Ok, video has been posted. The rankings are up for real this time.
 
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This weekend featured two supermajors, one in Japan and one in the Tristate.


Maesuma'TOP 1 (579 Entrants)

1st: acola:ultsteve::ultmythra:
2nd: Doramigi:ultminmin
3rd: Raki:ultsteve::ultkazuya:
4th: Miya:ultgnw:
5th: Raru:ultluigi:
5th: Carmelo:ultsteve::ultshulk:
7th: alice:ultkazuya::ultroy:
7th: MASA:ultfalco:
9th: Rarikkusu:ultfalco:
9th: KEN:ultsonic:
9th: Lvl. 1:ulttoonlink:
9th: Yoshidora:ultyoshi:
13th: Taikei:ultsonic:
13th: Navy:ultluigi:
13th: Asimo:ultryu:
13th: sssr:ultrob:
17th: Chag:ultpalutena::ultminmin
17th: Shirayuki:ultinkling:
17th: YamaD:ultrosalina:
17th: Kaninabe:ultfox::ultminmin
17th: Karaage:ultfalcon:
17th: Ryuoh:ultdiddy:
17th: Kome:ultshulk:
17th: Nyonoknb:ultdiddy:
25th: Elon:ultrob:
25th: Shupi:ultfalco:
25th: Umeki:ultdaisy:
25th: Shion:ulthero:
25th: Iba:ultzss:
25th: Gorioka:ultjoker:
25th: Hero:ultbowser:
25th: Miko:ultkazuya:
33rd: 33Peranbox:ultsteve:
33rd: Gachipi:ultlucario:
33rd: Kuroponzu:ultrob:
33rd: MildnaH.O:ultdk:
33rd: Yone_pi:ultpichu:
33rd: Kurofune:ultsonic:
33rd: Omuatsu:ultminmin
33rd: Futari no Kiwami Ah~!:ulticeclimbers:
33rd: Rimu:ultminmin
33rd: Marcos:ultrob:
33rd: MaT:ultrosalina:
33rd: Mark:ultyoshi:
33rd: Nininga:ultwolf:
33rd: Ezs:ult_terry:
33rd: Ike:ultsnake:
33rd: Manto:ultduckhunt:

This tournament had a common (but funny) theme of all of acola's bracket demons losing to a different Steve that isn't him. It also featured Doramigi beating acola 3-0 in GF set 1, then acola beating him back 3-0 in set 2, thus exchanging 3-0s.
This is the first time in recent memory that there have been 3 Steve players in top 8 of a major, granted that all 3 won with a different character at some point in the bracket.
Also, it seems that Falco has been getting increasingly elite level results as of late, not to the same level as Luigi's recent explosive results, but getting close. He is a fairly common top placing character in Japanese majors in the past few months. Definitely a character to look out for.


Luminosity Makes BIG Moves 2025 (832 Entrants)

1st: Sparg0:ultcloud::ultmythra::ultroy:
2nd: Hurt:ultsnake:
3rd: Syrup:ultsteve::ultness:
4th: Light:ultfox:
5th: Dabuz:ultrosalina::ultalph:
5th: Tweek:ultdiddy:
7th: Wrath:ultsonic:
7th: MkLeo:ultjoker::ultbyleth:
9th: PkChris :ultness:
9th: Lui$:ultpalutena::ultrob:
9th: JeJaJeJa:ultkirby:
9th: Zomba:ultrob:
13th: Onin:ultsteve:
13th: Candle:ultalph:
13th: Kola:ultroy::ultmythra:
13th: omega:ultjoker:
17th: SHADIC:ultcorrinf:
17th: Riddles:ult_terry:
17th: Peabnut:ultmegaman:
17th: Jakal:ultwolf:
17th: ATATA:ultness:
17th: Quandale Dinglelingleton:ultsteve:
17th: Bruho:ultkazuya:
17th: Just Blue:ultsteve::ultwiifittrainer:
25th: BeastModePaul:ulthero:
25th: Anarchy:ultgreninja:
25th: Epic_Gabriel:ultrob:
25th: Chugs:ulthero:
25th: Oolong:ultwiifittrainer:
25th: Free KayFlock:ultzelda:
25th: Antimony:ultsteve:
25th: Luigikid64:ultluigi:
33rd: Lima:ultbayonetta1:
33rd: Tilde:ultfalco:
33rd: Mr. E:ultlucina:
33rd: Kurama:ultmario:
33rd: MVD:ultsnake:
33rd: loaf:ultwario:
33rd: Beastly:ultdiddy:
33rd: Spickles:ultluigi:
33rd: fawn:ultduckhunt:
33rd: John Numbers:ultwiifittrainer:
33rd: Smokk:ultroy:
33rd: Azrael:ultkazuya:
33rd: Leviathan:ultzss::ultjoker::ultcloud:
33rd: Smirk:ultryu:
33rd: Juice:ultroy:
33rd: GRIT:ultbowserjr:
49th: MuteAce:ultpeach:
49th: Chase:ultpalutena::ultmythra:
49th: Sinji:ultpacman:
49th: Dany2theny:ultwolf:
49th: Aaron:ultdiddy:
49th: Pharaoh:ultyoshi:
49th: Ling:ultpeach:
49th: WebbJP:ultsheik:
49th: Lammers44:ultgunner:
49th: ChunkyKong:ultdk:
49th: NoTag:ultmario:
49th: Pelca:ultsnake:
49th: Deltaforce:ultlink:
49th: BlitzLuigy:ultmegaman:
49th: Regalo:ultlucas:
49th: Phaethon:ultsteve:


This is the first LMM event since LMBM 2023 where Steve is legal, following the usual Twitter poll.
After seeing that he is the new #1 in the world, Sparg0 entered New Game + mode, proceeding to absolutely demolish the competition in this event. No player in this tournament brought him to game 5. Heck, he even got 2nd in the Rivals 2 bracket (outplacing his seed) and was the only person who brought CakeAssault to game 5.
Low tier mains rejoice, cause JeJaJeJa brought Kirby all the way to 9th in this tournament beating players like Jakal and Kola. Zelda mains also eat nicely today, with Free KayFlock getting 25th.
Ness also got a lot of exposure this tournament, with ATATA getting 17th, PkChris getting 9th while beating MkLeo, and Syrup used Ness to beat Omega and he used him in both sets vs Hurt (granted that he lost both of those sets, but it is the thought that counts :upsidedown:).
 
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Very early to say, but it seems like Hurt might be coming back into being a top 5 player if he keeps this up. 1st at Smash Awesome beating acola twice, Shuton twice and Akakikusu with only one loss to Shuton, and 2nd at LMBM beating Syrup twice and Peabnut, only losing to the recently crowned #1.

One thing I can say is that the year of :ultluigi: doesn't seem to have ended with how many upset's Luigikid64 made. Wins over players like MuteAce and Tilde are quite nice. The breakout run of the tourney honestly. Just gonna say that Luigi is a really good character despite his exploitable disadvantage state and recovery, and Raru has figured out how to deal with some of Luigi's bad matchups. I don't really think touch of death characters can really be bad in Ultimate because there's just times where if a player makes a single error like misspacing an attack, suddenly they get hit and take a lot of damage or lose their stock. Punish games are getting really important in Ultimate overall so those characters just get better and better.
 
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I'm bored so I'm going to throw out some hot takes. I think :ultswordfighter: is the worst character in the game, followed by :ultlittlemac: and then :ultganondorf: is third worst.

Sword Fighter is really bad. The devs tried to make him a jack of all trades but he ends up being worse at any specific thing than the characters who specialize in it. His zoning is really underwhelming, his swordplay is slow and not particularly powerful or oppressive. He's just an all around underwhelming character.

Everyone knows why Mac is bad. I've been watching a lot of games by Peanut and Major, the best Mac and Ganon players, respectively. With Ganon's terrible recovery it's hard to put him above anyone but Mac's recovery is almost as bad and he's a lot lighter. Mac gets gimped or even outright KOed so easily I think he has overall worse survivability than Ganon. Mac's KO punch gets hit out of him so easily that he rarely lands it. A lot of MUs seem hopeless for Mac.

Ganon's still really bad but he can be more oppressive than the other two characters. His attacks are huge and hit super hard so he's actually really scary in advantage. The meta is leaning more toward strong advantages than strong neutrals: look at DK's rise.
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Play some :ultswordfighter: please. He really isn't even bottom 10. Mostly lacks kill power, but if you know how to use him, he's good. Still 100% the WORST Mii character though, by far. I'd say he's bottom 20ish, maybe bottom 15.
 
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Results for Seibugeki 18 (S tier)

1st: Shuton :ultolimar: :ultmythra:
2nd: Snow :ultmario:
3rd: Asimo :ultryu:
4th: Miya :ultgnw: :ultzombie:
5th: Gachipi :ultlucario: :ultsonic:
5th: Fui :ultyoshi:
7th: Rarikkusu :ultfalco: :ultdk: :ultsteve:
7th: Mark :ultyoshi:
9th: Huto :ultwario: :ultfalcon:
9th: Akakikusu :ulthero4:
9th: Raki :ultkazuya: :ultalex:
9th: Mild na H.O :ultdk:
13th: Noi :ultpokemontrainer: :ultolimar:
13th: Kurofune :ultsonic:
13th: yuzu :ultrosalina:
13th: kept :ultisabelle: :ultvillager:
17th: Yone_pi :ultpichu:
17th: F1re :ultmythra:
17th: Ike :ultsnake:
17th: Miles :ult_terry:
17th: Ryuoh :ultdiddy:
17th: Karaage :ultfalcon:
17th: Metara :ultmetaknight:
17th: No. 8 :ultluigi:

Since tying MkLeo in the amount of major wins, Miya has not won a major for the 5th time in a row.
 
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Earlier I made a post explaining why I think Luigi is really good, and today Larry Lurr dropped a video where he discusses why he thinks Luigi is better then Mario.
 
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I'm bored so I'll talk about how I would balance ultimate if I was in charge of the next patch, starting with buffing the bottom tiers.
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Smash Ultimate's 2nd Official Tier List - Luminosity

Welcome to our second annual LumiRank tier list!
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Ganon: I do think Ganon's slightly underrated but he still needs some serious buffs. First I'd make flame choke not freefall to bring his recovery more in line with other super heavies. Jab frame 7>5. And I'd give him his Brawl Usmash instead of his volcano kick utilt; there's no reason why he needs warlock punch and volcano kick. Brawl's usmash was like G&W's current usmash: slow to start but virtually unpunishable for those who don't know.

Little Mac: Mac's too glass and not enough canon. I'd make it so ko punch takes 20% damage before it's knocked out of him. Currently any move that makes Mac tumble will make him lose it and that's most attacks at the %s he gets ko punch. Currently Mac can't use sideb again until he lands or grabs the ledge even if he's hit. That's why his recovery is so bad. I'd make him regain it after being hit.

Krool: IMO Krool's an underrated mid-tier. However there are a few things the devs put in place to keep him from being too powerful that are unnecessary that I'd remove. I'd make crown always reappear on his head and make belly armor never break. He's such a punching bag that these changes wouldn't be overpowered.

Dedede: I'd make gordos take 10% damage before they are sent back at him. I think this one change would actually make Dedede a threatening zoner. Currently gordos get sent back by almost any attack and they're pretty bad outside ledge trapping.

Next time: the D- tiers.
 
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Sumabato SP 56 Results (S Tier)

1st: Miya :ultgnw: :ultzombie:
2nd: Doramigi :ultminmin
3rd: Snow :ultmario:
4th: M0tsunabE :ultfalco:
5th: Umeki :ultdaisy:
5th: DieGorou :ultcorrin:
7th: F1re :ultpyra: :ultmythra:
7th: Lv. 1 :ulttoonlink:
9th: Yoshidora :ultyoshi:
9th: Neo :ultcorrinf:
9th: Quidd :ultpokemontrainerf:
9th: Asimo :ultryu:
13th: Kaninabe :ultfox:
13th: Raki :ultsteve::ultkazuya:
13th: Yadon :ultpyra: :ultmythra: :ultrob:
13th: Karaage :ultfalcon:
17th: Shirayuki :ultinkling:
17th: Yn :ultzelda:
17th: Fui :ultyoshi:
17th: Navy :ultluigi:
17th: Toriguri :ultbanjokazooie:
17th: Lapi :ultrob:
17th: Raru :ultluigi:
17th: Ryuoh :ultdiddy:
25th: YamaD :ultrosalina:
25th: showers :ultinklingboy: :ultpokemontrainerf:
25th: Nimba :ultpichu:
25th: Jagabata :ultduckhunt:
25th: Tas :ultpiranha:
25th: Jogibu :ultfalcon:
25th: Parme :ultsamus:
25th: Mild na H.O. :ultdk:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the first time solo Aegis made top 8 at a supermajor in a long time, typically Aegis players have some co-main or pilot the character as a secondary. I think the last time solo Aegis made top 8 at a supermajor was at S Factor 11 (which was by Cosmos).

Also Miya has now surpassed MkLeo when looking at players' total major wins, if you are going by the SmashWiki page. Quidd (Yes, the LMBM 2022 winner) decided to randomly attend this event and got wins over Toriguri, Yadon and Tas.
 
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Been a quiet week in Ultimate, since this weekend's tournaments have been B tiers.

Instead, I found an interesting article by Luminosity earlier this month (posted back at January 9th).
It is a tier list based purely on results and it ranges from October 2021 (when Sora released) to December 2024 (last month).

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Smash Ultimate Results-Based Tier List: December 2024 - Luminosity

Welcome to Luminosity’s Official Results-Based Tier List for December 2024, presented by LG Schu.
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S+ :ultsteve:
S :ultsonic::ultrob::ultsnake::ultgnw::ultmythra:
S- :ultdiddy::ultfox::ultcloud::ultpalutena::ultkazuya:
A+ :ultsamus::ultjoker::ultminmin:ultwario::ultroy::ultbayonetta::ultluigi::ultwolf::ultmario::ultolimar::ultyoshi::ultpeach:
A- :ultryu::ultfalco::ultpacman::ultcorrin::ultness::ultrosalina::ultshulk:
B+ :ultpokemontrainer::ultmegaman::ultfalcon::ultsora::ultlucina::ultyounglink::ultgreninja::ultsephiroth::ultken::ult_terry::ulthero::ulticeclimbers:
B- :ultbyleth::ultpikachu::ultsheik::ultzss::ulttoonlink::ultdk::ultbowser::ultinkling::ultincineroar:
C+ :ultmetaknight::ultwiifittrainer::ultbrawler::ultike::ultpit::ultpichu::ultduckhunt:
C- :ultsimon::ultridley::ultrobin::ultbanjokazooie::ultlucas::ultlink::ultjigglypuff::ultgunner::ultzelda:
D :ultbowserjr::ultdoc::ultchrom::ultlucario::ultkingdedede::ultvillager::ultisabelle:
F :ultkrool::ultkirby::ultlittlemac::ultswordfighter::ultpiranha::ultmewtwo::ultmarth::ultganondorf:


I personally don't hold much weight into this list, since it covers such a wide date range and the meta has evolved so much in the past year that it is almost unrecognizable from the early portion of this date range, but I think it is interesting enough to warrant a bit of discussion.
 
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The_Bookworm said:
Been a quiet week in Ultimate, since this weekend's tournaments have been B tiers.

Instead, I found an interesting article by Luminosity earlier this month (posted back at January 9th).
It is a tier list based purely on results and it ranges from October 2021 (when Sora released) to December 2024 (last month).

luminosity.gg

Smash Ultimate Results-Based Tier List: December 2024 - Luminosity

Welcome to Luminosity’s Official Results-Based Tier List for December 2024, presented by LG Schu.
luminosity.gg luminosity.gg

S+ :ultsteve:
S :ultsonic::ultrob::ultsnake::ultgnw::ultmythra:
S- :ultdiddy::ultfox::ultcloud::ultpalutena::ultkazuya:
A+ :ultsamus::ultjoker::ultminmin:ultwario::ultroy::ultbayonetta::ultluigi::ultwolf::ultmario::ultolimar::ultyoshi::ultpeach:
A- :ultryu::ultfalco::ultpacman::ultcorrin::ultness::ultrosalina::ultshulk:
B+ :ultpokemontrainer::ultmegaman::ultfalcon::ultsora::ultlucina::ultyounglink::ultgreninja::ultsephiroth::ultken::ult_terry::ulthero::ulticeclimbers:
B- :ultbyleth::ultpikachu::ultsheik::ultzss::ulttoonlink::ultdk::ultbowser::ultinkling::ultincineroar:
C+ :ultmetaknight::ultwiifittrainer::ultbrawler::ultike::ultpit::ultpichu::ultduckhunt:
C- :ultsimon::ultridley::ultrobin::ultbanjokazooie::ultlucas::ultlink::ultjigglypuff::ultgunner::ultzelda:
D :ultbowserjr::ultdoc::ultchrom::ultlucario::ultkingdedede::ultvillager::ultisabelle:
F :ultkrool::ultkirby::ultlittlemac::ultswordfighter::ultpiranha::ultmewtwo::ultmarth::ultganondorf:


I personally don't hold much weight into this list, since it covers such a wide date range and the meta has evolved so much in the past year that it is almost unrecognizable from the early portion of this date range, but I think it is interesting enough to warrant a bit of discussion.
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This list should certainly be taken with a grain of salt but it does shed some light on discussions we've had in this thread. Luigi vs Kazuya for example. Luigi has been pulling ahead lately but Kazuya still has better results. That could change in the future but it's hard to predict trends. Kazuya might not have as good a player as Raru but he has more lower rank results. He's definitely someone who's doing good all over.

Another discussion is Toon Link vs Young Link. Neither have exactly been doing great but YL has been getting more results. As a YL player I definitely think he's the best Link. As I discussed in a earlier post, YL has a lot of advantages in his moveset over TL like a f4 Nair to break combos and much better midrange zoning and combos.

Palutena continues to be a top tier without a top player.

And finally, I've said frequently that Ike's mid tier and this supports it. Ike's a character that didn't do much so everybody assumed his entire kit was bad. He still has some good things going for him and people tend to underestimate swordies. If Ike hits you once he'll probably hit you at least once more. I've played an Ike who got 3rd at a regional tournament and his Nair still combos fine. He has a better recovery than a lot of swordies because sideB. He also has a really good Bair and Dtilt starts combos. Controlling space with a huge sword is a big benefit in Ultimate. I can't see him in low tier with characters who have crippling weaknesses like Mac and Ganon.
 
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