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Official Competitive Character Impressions 2.0

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Hippieslayer

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Opinions on Meta Knight? I just feel like Leo kind of matchup checked Japan. They don't have that good a Byleth and I don't know how good their best Metaknight is but they probably do not have one that plays like Leos. So its like he matchup checked Japan using both characters and himself as a player.

I have no idea where Metaknight stands among all the good but not top characters. Leos MK was very hype but its clear Leo is still figuring things out with the char to a certain degree. Is this another case of Japanese players losing to rushdown?

The loss to Hurt sucked but Leo looked better than his Lumirank going by the entirety of his performance.
 

Hydreigonfan01

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Opinions on Meta Knight? I just feel like Leo kind of matchup checked Japan. They don't have that good a Byleth and I don't know how good their best Metaknight is but they probably do not have one that plays like Leos. So its like he matchup checked Japan using both characters and himself as a player.

I have no idea where Metaknight stands among all the good but not top characters. Leos MK was very hype but its clear Leo is still figuring things out with the char to a certain degree. Is this another case of Japanese players losing to rushdown?

The loss to Hurt sucked but Leo looked better than his Lumirank going by the entirety of his performance.
Abadango used to be their best Meta Knight by far and had the best result of any Meta Knight ever, getting 2nd at Kagaribi 8. This was back in 2022 and was the same tournament that was Miya's first ever major win. Then Abadango couldn't get those results anymore, tried playing different characters, still wasn't getting those results, and retired from Smash entirely. Now I think their best Meta Knight is Metara, who was ranked top 150 for the 2023 season on LumiRank, but unranked for the 2024.1 season.

I don't know if they were getting matchup checked by Meta Knight or not, because some of the veterans would've played against both Abadango and Metara. As for Byleth, they do have Reno and Rizeasu, who are both great players, but those two players are not as consistent as Leo is with that character.
 
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The_Bookworm

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Sumabato SP 51 (S or S+ Tier event)

1st: Asimo:ultryu:
2nd: acola:ultsteve:
3rd: Akakikusu:ulthero4:
4th: Maister:ultgnw:
5th: Yoshidora:ultyoshi:
5th: Fui:ultyoshi:
7th: Ryuoh:ultdiddy:
7th: Raru:ultluigi:
9th: Jogibu:ultfalcon:
9th: alice:ultroy::ultkazuya:
9th: Hurt:ultsnake:
9th: Snow:ultmario:
13th: MASA:ultfalco:
13th: Toriguri:ultbanjokazooie:
13th: Luminous:ultjoker:
13th: Tsuna:ultgreninja::ultroy:


I was going to say that this is the first time Ryu in Ultimate has won a major tournament (let alone a supermajor), but it turns out that :4ryu: has never won a major tournament either, so this is the first time across both Smash games that Ryu has won a major tournament.

Must be the powerup of Kusanagi's recent major tournament win in SF6.
 
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Hydreigonfan01

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Results for Luminosity Invitational: Back 2 School (A+ Tier)

1. Kola :ultroy: :ultcloud:
2. Sparg0 :ultcloud: :ultpyra: :ultroy:
3. Shuton :ultolimar: :ultpyra:
4. Zomba :ultrob: :ultdarkpit:
5. MkLeo :ultjoker: :ultmetaknight:
5. Asimo :ultryu:
7. ShinyMark :ultpikachu:
7. Light :ultfox:
9. Tweek :ultdiddy:
9. Glutonny :ultwario:
9. Maister :ultgnw:
9. Marss :ultzss:
13. TM7_ZAP :ultbowserjr:
13. Dabuz :ultrosalina: :ultalph:
13. Sonix :ultsonic:
13. SHADIC :ultcorrinf:

:ultroy:'s our boy. Cool storylines this tournament, Kola won a major, which hasn't happened since CEO 2021, Sparg0 made a very impressive losers run after a poor pools performance, MkLeo beat most of his bracket demons, and Shuton and Asimo are showing consistency. Light also made his first top 8 in a while so that's nice to see.
 
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Rizen

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Congrats to Kola and Asimo for proving they can win against the big boys. I just want to point out all top three winners used sword characters. Swords are extremely powerful in the meta. Another thing to note is this is by far Sonix's worst performance. Is he falling off? Also it's been a long time since Steve has won anything major. It seems like people are getting better at dealing with him.
 

The_Bookworm

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Congrats to Kola and Asimo for proving they can win against the big boys. I just want to point out all top three winners used sword characters. Swords are extremely powerful in the meta. Another thing to note is this is by far Sonix's worst performance. Is he falling off? Also it's been a long time since Steve has won anything major. It seems like people are getting better at dealing with him.
To be fair, Sonix's bracket felt constructed to give him the hardest time, as he was put up with a couple of his biggest demons in pools (Shinymark & Light) into immediately fighting Sparg0's Roy for 13th.

For Steve, with the exception of the major win I am going to mention in a sec, the character hasn't won anything major in a long while mainly cause acola isn't quite winning events as often as he used to be. He is getting top placements incredibly consistently, but not quite getting that gold. Due note that crêpe salée did recently become the 3rd ever Steve player to win a major, winning UFA 2024 with mostly solo Steve (only used secondaries in pools), so there is that.
 
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Hippieslayer

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I would really like to blame Sonix placement on people becoming better at fighting Sonic and the character not being as good as he seems. But I do not think that is the case.

It was just poor bracket luck. And Sonix crumbling under the pressure of it and not playing his best as a consequence; Light showing up for the first time in a while and then having to fight the best player in the world for 13th place. Sonix has gotta have some mentality issues after his 2nd place streak. He looks like he does when you look at the player cams.

I do think Sonic could potentially have some issues vs zoners with good recoveries. Chars who can force Sonic to approach and who live for a long time while being able to kill Sonic relatively early. Capitancit0 was doing well vs Sonix for a while before he started losing their many sets. And thats with Mii Gunner who is a mid tier char. There's gotta be some better char who fits the description? Or perhaps there is not.

Maybe its better to just pick a fast swordie char who is a top tier and force approaches with horizontal mobility. Or Corrin whose 360 hitbitbox nair makes it hard for Sonic to approach. You run the risk of getting gimped if you play Corrin or Roy or Aegis or Fox. But you get access to better characters who are relatively easy to play because they just require fundamentals and have simple gameplans (would not say Fox is easy tho, if he was there would be more Foxes at top level) That seems to be the case right now.
 
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