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"Competing"

Brookman

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I want to know, for everyone who doesn't place in the top consistently...what is it that keeps you coming back to the tournament scene?

Do you enjoy lining the winners pockets? How confident are you that you can become one of the winners? Is it worth your time and/or money?

When I look at tournament results with the same people constantly placing 1-2-3 I start to wonder...how 'competitive' is a game where the same players constantly place?

What I'm saying here is, even if you don't take it so seriously and it's just a fun hobby to you, why PAY to PLAY?



HMMM....

more later, perhaps..
 

Vicious Delicious

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Tom got it. And prizes are alluring ^_^

Plus, it's just fun to meet up with other smashers (in your area or out) to play the game and hang out and such. It's a good time, even if it means giving up 10-20 dollars.
 

crismas

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There's lot's of reasons for me anyway.

For one, I love everyone I smash with (for the most part XD) but really, I met a lot of good people and close friends through the competitive scene. Everyone is really awesome in general, even when I get to travel oos for a tourny.

Second, it's a chance to practice, and to learn. Especially traveling oos or when you get to play people you don't normally fight. On the same note really, just watching everyone else's matches too. Yeah sure I may be eliminated but it's still just as fun watching the finals of any tournament!

Third would be to see my progression in a tournament. I'm probably not going to place the same each time, and who did I fight, and how far did/didn't I get as compared to last time.

Overall, fun and exciting in my experiences even if I have to pay I'm not really thinking about that (unless I'm broke, then I'm just looking for a smashfest lol).
 

Jam Stunna

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Let's face it: You have to pay for everything, and that includes the opportunity to lose to people who are better than you. I think by competitive, we mean "I play against someone to test my skill". We can all play for free if we want, but then we're stuck playing with the same people in our neighborhoods over and over again. If you're going to draw the best people from all over the country to one place, you need an incentive. What better incentive is there than money?

I will probably never win a tournament, but that doesn't stop me from trying. It's not that I want the money, that's just a very nice bonus. I want to prove that I'm better than everyone else out there, because I'm a competitive person. I don't mind paying to prove that I can beat someone. I'm just trying to get to the point where I'm paying to beat everyone.
 

Yuna

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I want to know, for everyone who doesn't place in the top consistently...what is it that keeps you coming back to the tournament scene?

Do you enjoy lining the winners pockets? How confident are you that you can become one of the winners? Is it worth your time and/or money?
Because it's fun. You get to play others who are good and grow from it. You get tons of experience and matches each tournament. And if you're any good, you'll place high.

When I look at tournament results with the same people constantly placing 1-2-3 I start to wonder...how 'competitive' is a game where the same players constantly place?
I'm sorry, what? What kind of logic is this? Of course it's Competitive. So according to you, it's not really Competitive since "the same people constantly place 1-2-3", which means that a game is Competitive if the placements are random and tons of people alternate between 1-2-3.

Umm.. the same 3 people placing high almost every time is a sign of Competitive viability. Because that means that the game is good enough that you can get to a point where you always win or place high instead of a game that's so random and shallow that you could very easily lose out of the Top 3 even if you're really good because something random happened.

The same 3 people placing high is because they're currently the 3 best players in the US and they also go to many tournaments, hence, more chances for them to place high. It'd be a sing of shallowness if 15 different people switched between the Top 3 spots and the many of them often don't even make Top 20.

What I'm saying here is, even if you don't take it so seriously and it's just a fun hobby to you, why PAY to PLAY?
Because it's not really that much money. Heck, you can even show to tournaments without entering them, paying only the entrance fee and maybe moneymatches.
 

JCaesar

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I will probably never win a tournament, but that doesn't stop me from trying. It's not that I want the money, that's just a very nice bonus. I want to prove that I'm better than everyone else out there, because I'm a competitive person. I don't mind paying to prove that I can beat someone. I'm just trying to get to the point where I'm paying to beat everyone.
Bingo. I'm not in it for the money. I go to tournaments because they're fun. I've made a lot of friends at tourneys and I always have a good time, because even if I get taken out early, I'll still get to play a ton of friendlies and just hang out with other people who have the same interest in this game that I do.

Basically, it's fun to get together with all these people, make some new friends, experience different playstyles, and just play the game. It's really got nothing to do with money. If you have at least a decent job, the money isn't that huge anyway at the majority of tournaments.
 

Blea Gelo

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i will just answer one thing.. With money, people get better faster than without it... thats all
 

SleepyK

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extending the topic.



but really, there's not much more to say.
 

Steck

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Because you don't really know your skill level till you actually go to a real life tournament. You learn just how much more you need to practice.
 

AlphaZealot

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Its fun.
You improve.
Its fun.
Money is not everyones motivation.
Its fun.
Consistent winners is actually the staple of competitive games.
Did I mention its fun?
 

SleepyK

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alphazealot, you should be expecting a visit from Segata Sanshiro sometime soon. <3
 

dj_pwn1423

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the truth is I want to become one of CA's top ten in the power rankings, or atleast top 25.

from what I can see im not that far off. but then again...

so yeah thats why I play.
 

g-regulate

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the people who are more worried about the money they are losing shouldnt even be at the tourney, their mind is obviously pessimistic and in the wrong place, and they probably wont get any better. getting good at smash IS an investment of time and money, there's no way around it. people like chillin and chu and ken dont have to play you and make you better, tournaments are people's opportunity to play them and improve, and if they win, they get a prize.
 

Jack Kieser

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Ha, I know that I'll get pwned at tournaments; I'm a great theorist / strategist when it comes to gaming, but when it comes to actual technical skill, lightning-fast reflexes, and prediction (well, I can get the prediction, just not quickly enough for a standard tournament match), I admit that I have a long way to go. I guess that's the point, though. You can't test how much you've progressed by playing the same people over and over, so you play in tournaments (which just happen to have an entry fee, unfortunately) to see just that.
 
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