"Come On Steak It Up"

[SonicX580]

Basically this thread is a thread for random strategy topic and to make and accept challenges also you post your results if you have any flame posts for me save it before a mod locks it and bans us.

 

[Kinzer]

That, right there, is a very good taunt my friend. I might (F*** THAT, I WILL!) actually use that as my Online taunt.

Thank you!

 

[SonicX580]

Okay no problem Kinzer you can use it but remember I thought of it first.

 

[Kinzer]

Righto my good chum, if anybody asks, you gave me the idea, although KASR came up wit the Steak no doubt.

 

[SonicX580]

True but I gave it a new look and definition.

 

[~TBS~]

i'm siggin this for online usage. i just like sayin' "i'm siggin this".
so yeah. on a serious note, doop walking rulez. implement it into your game, guys, because it could be used as a total mindgame.
for example, doop walk ftilt on someone=laughs and mindgames.

 

[infomon]

I can't believe how much noise this "doop walking" thing is making.... especially since it's not new at all lolol.

It's like if someone said that crouch-taunting was a "mindgame strategy" because they don't know if you'll Dtilt from a crouch or do something else from standing... >.>

 

[Jim Morrison]

Doop walk to taunt is good, doop walk AS a taunt is good. No other valid use.

 

[aeghrur]

Lol, doop walking, if it starts becoming used a lot, will make this game hilarious. Can you imagine new people looking at videos of people spinning around trying to space? lmao.

 

[Emerald CHA0S]

lol, doop walk.

Does anyone here use Spin Charges out of dashes? That could be good for potential mindgames...

 

[Jim Morrison]

lol, doop walk.

Does anyone here use Spin Charges out of dashes? That could be good for potential mindgames...

Lrn2SDSC.

You're better of doing SpinDash and cancelling it immedeatly for a shield in place out of a run

 

[infomon]

Does anyone here use Spin Charges out of dashes? That could be good for potential mindgames...

I disagree with Gf2tw. We were talking about SC-out-of-run recently in the side-B/down-B mechanics thread. Noone really does it, but I'm trying to incorporate it in my game more. I see two real uses:

1. offensive pressure; too often I SD out of run as mindgame, but it often can't actually follow up with the punishment because the hop is too slow.

2. edgeguarding strat. Spindash jump is great for leaping off the stage for far-away gimping, and I tend to do these by spincharging on the stage, rolling to the edge, then jumping. But that's way more telegraphed than a dash to the edge > spincharge > jump instantly by tapping c-stick up (or control-stick up if you're fast). It gives you more options and keeps the enemy on their toes longer.

And SC is almost as defensive as SD; even though you can't shield-cancel, you can VSDJ>airdodge (or VSDJ>aerial attack) for defense if they're coming with an attack.

So, yeah, SC out of run is interesting and underused.

 

[Jim Morrison]

I'm saying shield = better than SD. Or don't immedeatly put up a shield. Load to half, wait for a shield, cancel, grab, PROFIT

 

[Tenki]

I can't believe how much noise this "doop walking" thing is making.... especially since it's not new at all lolol.

It's like if someone said that crouch-taunting was a "mindgame strategy" because they don't know if you'll Dtilt from a crouch or do something else from standing... >.>

Heeey. I use crouch-walking as a 'mindgame strategy' sometimes.

It's way better with Falcon though, because his crouch is freaky-looking.

You can actually crouch more frequently if you walk while spamming it.

I'm saying shield = better than SD. Or don't immedeatly put up a shield. Load to half, wait for a shield, cancel, grab, PROFIT

If you wanna catch an opponent with something like a spindash combo, you're better off doing SC for the most part instead of side-B.

It's a different kind of offensive pressure than side-B cancels, with more of a damaging, 'quick-gratification' reward (spindash combo).

Also, concerning giving tips, get better at Sonic D;

 

[Jim Morrison]

Also, concerning giving tips, get better at Sonic D;

My Sonic is good enough. May it not be directed to me, then I agree

 

[infomon]

My Sonic is good enough. May it not be directed to me, then I agree

No Sonic is good enough....... yet...

 

[SonicX580]

So I'am guessing everyone is likeing my thread and also my mindgames are slowly increasing.

 

[infomon]

I'll be honest, I don't remember the OP and don't have any idea what this thread is for, lolol

Glad your "mindgames" are improving tho, that sounds.. good...

 

[SonicX580]

Okay and for those of you who want to know the secret behind Come On Steak It Up I'll tell you but you to have PM me or same with you because I don't want this thread to be closed up by spam(so they say...).

 

[infomon]

Hmm, well for a "random strategy" topic, what are some neat Spring combos / strategies? Propping ppl onto the spring with a dash attack, or just catching them by surprised as they're falling towards you, is always fun. And also spring-cancelling aerials, like Dair'ing repeatedly onto spring... but has anyone actually used much side-B / ASC off spring? What's that "aerial rave" thing that has been mentioned?

And X580's mindgames are definitely improving, sorry if I wasn't clear before.

 

[SonicX580]

Hmm, well for a "random strategy" topic, what are some neat Spring combos / strategies? Propping ppl onto the spring with a dash attack, or just catching them by surprised as they're falling towards you, is always fun. And also spring-cancelling aerials, like Dair'ing repeatedly onto spring... but has anyone actually used much side-B / ASC off spring? What's that "aerial rave" thing that has been mentioned?

And X580's mindgames are definitely improving, sorry if I wasn't clear before.

Yeah thanks but for some reason I go for power over mindgames.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Yeah thanks but for some reason I go for power over mindgames.

That's cause mindgames are less important than power in winning the match.

 

[SonicX580]

That's cause mindgames are less important than power in winning the match.

Hmm that makes some sense.

 

[Jim Morrison]

I don't really get how you mean power. Mindgames I think about anticipating an attack and hoping it'll work. Power I think going for the strong attacks, which is not how it works. If power is racking up damage and attacking open spots, then it is important

 

[SonicX580]

I don't really get how you mean power. Mindgames I think about anticipating an attack and hoping it'll work. Power I think going for the strong attacks, which is not how it works. If power is racking up damage and attacking open spots, then it is important

What I mean by power is use the strongest attack for a early KO.

 

[Jim Morrison]

It's a good strategy, don't do it risky though. Only use it if you can actually hit.

 

[SonicX580]

It's a good strategy, don't do it risky though. Only use it if you can actually hit.

Yeah it's good it works on a rare occusion though...

 

[Tenki]

That's cause mindgames are less important than power in winning the match.

I beg to differ :3

Assuming power includes 'speed' as well. Because otherwise, MK would be undefeatable, and noone would ever be winning 'disadvantaged' matchups.

Mindgames are important :3

 

[Kinzer]

Mindgames are important :3

No they aren't... >.>

with a hint of "WTF is he saying?!" on the side.

 

[Jim Morrison]

I beg to differ :3

Assuming power includes 'speed' as well. Because otherwise, MK would be undefeatable, and noone would ever be winning 'disadvantaged' matchups.

Mindgames are important :3

Power is the attributes the character has. Mindgames are what the player does with it. Both are important when playing Sonic, but that's kinda Sonic specific. For other chars it's less of that.

 

[SonicX580]

Power over Mindgames I guess it's a 50-50 just don't know.

 

[Kinzer]

Hey X5, you might only want to post your pokeyman when your post isn't serious at all and you want to let other people (those who get this joke of course) know that.

...

Must... resist... temptation... to post... mah... POKEYMAN!!!

 

[SonicX580]

Well it wasn't that serious Kinzer and off the record my pokeyman evolves when I'am a smash lord.

 

[Camalange]

So uh...can mindgames even be considered a stat? Like power, speed, etc.

Mindgames is like its own category because it's not something you can depend on. Ike's Fsmash will always be devastating, but ASC>Shield Cancel>Grab won't always work unless properly "mindgamed".

Mind over strength?

 

[Jim Morrison]

So uh...can mindgames even be considered a stat? Like power, speed, etc.

Mindgames is like its own category because it's not something you can depend on. Ike's Fsmash will always be devastating, but ASC>Shield Cancel>Grab won't always work unless properly "mindgamed".

Basicly what I said. It's divided in power (character tools which can be used)
and mindgames (player skill and ability to read opponent, tricking them)

 

[ROOOOY!]

So uh...can mindgames even be considered a stat? Like power, speed, etc.

Not really. Speed and power are character specific, whilst mindgames are player specific. Sure, some characters have more tools for mindgames though.

No.

 

[Camalange]

Not really. Speed and power are character specific, whilst mindgames are player specific. Sure, some characters have more tools for mindgames though.

That's pretty much what I was thinking.

No.

lol, Boxob gave permission in the SBR for more Sonics to use this. I won't spam it though, promise.

 

[ROOOOY!]

Ok then <3

 

[Camalange]

Ok then <3

<3

So...is this essentially our new chatroom place where we discuss important things?

If so, I suggest changing the title to something more sneaky professional...

 

[SonicX580]

Nah not really I like the name.