Combatting a top-tier snake

[Tim_The_Enchanter]

I'm a G&W main but I can never seem to beat really good Snakes with my G&W. I just started using DK as a counter to Snake. Are there any specific techniques I should practice? Are there any advanced techniques I should know?

 

[Veggi]

Yes, when he uses his cypher try to spike him the best you can, also when he is recovering try to predict when he is going to use the chypher and spike him accordingly. By watching when he is going to use it, you can make sure that he doesn't just go as high as he can really quick so you can't get him. So by going early, you can kill him easy with the f air part that spikes, or the f air part that raeps them off the side of the stage.

Snake's cypher doesn't sweetspot the edge, so if he uses it and flies up in front of you grab his cypher and he will die. If you grab him while he's flying and not the cypher don't press anything, just let the grab release and he will just fall not being able to use his up b again. Proceed with the lulz.

I heard somewhere that if he was release grabbed he couldn't c4 recover. I could be wrong though.

K now enough with the cypher, the best approach option in my opinion is the rar'ing of double bairs. If he throws a grenade, try to catch it and throw it back. If he knows how to grenade strip screw it, don't do that again. The main focus of playing against Snake is to try to keep him in the air. Snake is juggled easily so use up tilt over and over until he's out of range and then use u air. Followed by another u air. It works suprisingly well. Also any time you ever see Snake vulnerable ever. Unleash a Giant Punch. In my opinion abusing the super armor against him works better than with alot of other characters. If you can predict something coming at close range, punch right through it.

Uhh...more advice...I think your f tilt is either at his level or better, so using that to bully him torward the edge is a good idea. Also if you can get him sitting near the edge, grab him, walk off and throw him against the stage. Anywhere off the edge is where DK shines. Another tip, use down b on his mines, they will asplode, maybe even catch him in it?

 

[Tim_The_Enchanter]

Thanks a lot!

 

[Linguini]

Never let snake approach you on the ground from far away, if you see him walking towards you make sure you down-b right away, this will push him away if he shields or hit him if he doesn't.

Aerials are one thing that you have and that snake is weak against.
SH bair to side b is great because it stops your momentum therefore evading a shield grab and usually weakening/breaking the opponent's shield or grounding him which equals a free, any move you want.

Remember to charge your Giant Punch constantly because this is going to be one of the most useful tools in this matchup due to the fact that you can disregard snakes nades and projectiles by simply running in and releasing the punch thanks to SA frames, take advantage of this.

 

[Ripple]

OMG.... another thread like this, people who do this need to be banned

 

[SmashBro99]

Smack him off, spike him.

 

[Brahma]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=173752

Read before you post.

 

[Jmex]

OMG.... another thread like this, people who do this need to be banned

Agreed....

 

[Leprechaun_Drunk]

I foresee a bleak future where endless waves of tier-grubbing noobs main either Snake or MK and secondary DK, so they can "counter" other Snakes and MK's...

I'm only right about half of the time.

 

[Tim_The_Enchanter]

I'm only right about half of the time.

Ouch, that hurt. But it's obvious that DK is a solid counter to both of my main opponents.

 

[Leprechaun_Drunk]

Ouch, that hurt. But it's obvious that DK is a solid counter to both of my main opponents.

Then main DK...


XD

 

[itsthebigfoot]

Then main DK...

QFT, really, unless its an absolutely horrible matchup (dk vs ddd, ness vs marth) youshouldn't need to counterpick that much, if you want to have an edge vs snake and metaknight, main dk, G&W shouldn't be doing that bad vs those two anyway

 

[HOHO420]

G&W is god my friends, he owns metaknight and snake.

 

[Kashakunaki]

OMG.... another thread like this, people who do this need to be banned

Agreed....

Neither of you are helping to make it any better.

 

[JonBeBonanza]

DK in my opinion is the perfect snake counter. There aren't ant DK specific "AT's" to my knowledge, but if there is any advice that i can give, is to capitalize on mistakes, i cannot stress that enough. DK is a powerhouse so if they mess up at considerable % you make sure you CAPITALIZE. And if you want to end a match with some flare, stage spike throw ftw!

But if you want, i have this vid of me playing against my friends snake with DK, and just embarrassing him making him look like a scrub. :D

 

[mcnichoj]

DK in my opinion is the perfect snake counter. There aren't ant DK specific "AT's" to my knowledge, but if there is any advice that i can give, is to capitalize on mistakes, i cannot stress that enough. DK is a powerhouse so if they mess up at considerable % you make sure you CAPITALIZE. And if you want to end a match with some flare, stage spike throw ftw!

But if you want, i have this vid of me playing against my friends snake with DK, and just embarrassing him making him look like a scrub. :D

When mentioning videos, it's usually a good idea to put the link to said video(s).

 

[JonBeBonanza]

When mentioning videos, it's usually a good idea to put the link to said video(s).

I meant, send it by Wii.. i obviously failed to mention that. But yeah, i have it and will send it by wii, as of now i have no means of recording. (yet)

 

[Black_Heretic]

I heard somewhere that if he was release grabbed he couldn't c4 recover. I could be wrong though.

Just so you know, it release grabbing only stops him from reusing a cypher, he can still try a c4 to save himself