Clone Engine Discussion (The ARF Engine.)

[Strong Badam]

I'm going to have to agree with Dantarion.

 

[Deleted member]

How about marth over some one, ya' know roy????

No one else is going to give you a straight answer, so I will. He is no longer trying to replace anyone, he is trying to ADD characters without taking anyone away. The swapping characters over top of other characters thing was just the first test step. Now, he is going into adding new character slots, which will just be new complete characters that do not detract from anything else in the game.

*Edited out poor taste joke*

 

[cuckoos]

You ****ing ******.

That was uncalled for. Get over yourself, and realize that you're no better than anyone else by saying that.

 

[Glöwworm]

No one else is going to give you a straight answer, so I will.

What an admirable thing to do.

You ****ing ******

wat

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anyways, good work Dantarion; keep it up!

 

[Deleted member]

That was uncalled for. Get over yourself, and realize that you're no better than anyone else by saying that.

Eh, I said it as a joke. It sounded funnier in my head. My bad. I'll edit it out. I was going for the reaction that Glowworm gave of "wat." Y'know, being nice, and then insulting him, like the two previous people had before me.

...I mean... I think I'm funny.

 

[Ultraxwing]

no no no...

i didn't meant like replace using the .rels


i meant is he working with a roy....

 

[Revven]

yes... he is....

 

[cuckoos]

Eh, I said it as a joke. It sounded funnier in my head. My bad. I'll edit it out. I was going for the reaction that Glowworm gave of "wat." Y'know, being nice, and then insulting him, like the two previous people had before me.

...I mean... I think I'm funny.

at first i didn't get it

but then I lol'd

@UltraXwing: Noone here can understand what you're saying. In case you were oblivious to the last few posts and the OP, Dantarion is filling the empty character slots with data, thus allowing more characters.

And yes, he'll be working with Roy too. Stop asking that

 

[Count Typo]

Just for clarification: I know that Dant is working on making the 7 empty slots usable, but is his goal to actually add new slots?

Eh, I said it as a joke. It sounded funnier in my head. My bad. I'll edit it out. I was going for the reaction that Glowworm gave of "wat." Y'know, being nice, and then insulting him, like the two previous people had before me.

...I mean... I think I'm funny.

I lol'ed.

 

[chaoticyeshua]

Eh, I said it as a joke. It sounded funnier in my head. My bad. I'll edit it out. I was going for the reaction that Glowworm gave of "wat." Y'know, being nice, and then insulting him, like the two previous people had before me.

...I mean... I think I'm funny.

If it makes you feel any better, I thought it was hilarious.

 

[Dantarion]

Just for clarification: I know that Dant is working on making the 7 empty slots usable, but is his goal to actually add new slots? .

After I get the 7 empty slots working...then Ill think about making a unlimited slot code or something.

 

[superyoshi888]

Well dang. That just sounds amazing.

 

[Gregory2590]

Unlimited slots?! Project M/ Brawl- character dlc packs anyone?

 

[RedFire]

I have 3 questions:

1. Do the Forbidden 7 have soundbanks ? If so we can use them to have custom SFX to accompany DLC characters.

2. When the module editor is released, will it also be possible to add new slots for music and stages ?

3. How will these slots work ? I mean will they be able to work in all modes and not mess up your save data ? I really hope this doesn't have some negative effects.

Dant, your work is awesome. This and Tabuu are the last things needed to have the ability to modify everything in Brawl. I just wish people made decent PSAs which aren't too over-powered/actually match the characters...

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

There are good PSAs that aren't overpowered.
You just have to look.

3. We don't know yet. Just be on the look out and back up your save data.

 

[Slashy]

What about things like the info pacs, and the replay data graphics? Those files seem to be static, are you going to remake those files to accommodate the new data?

 

[Dantarion]

What I am going to have to do is:
#1. Get it working...
#2. Figure out all the places it crashes or causes problems...
#3. Fix them or make code workarounds for the things that dont work.

 

[bleyva]

that sounds hard though

 

[Raqib]

I just wish people made decent PSAs which aren't too over-powered/actually match the characters...

Seriously. Though you got to admit, Roy and Mewtwo did come out nicely.
Cloud was actually pretty good too.

 

[ds22]

What I am going to have to do is:
#1. Get it working...
#2. Figure out all the places it crashes or causes problems...
#3. Fix them or make code workarounds for the things that dont work.

You know it will work or you think it will work?

 

[RedFire]

Well, for Roy and Mewtwo people had a base to work with. They just based the moves off SSBM.

Shadow by Mastaklo, however was just a bunch or random moves that look cool. I might have to learn PSA and make a PSA for him myself.

 

[Raqib]

Well, for Roy and Mewtwo people had a base to work with. They just based the moves off SSBM.

Shadow by Mastaklo, however was just a bunch or random moves that look cool. I might have to learn PSA and make a PSA for him myself.

Shadow, aside from the nice looking running animation, is pretty horrible. I'm learning PSA too, if you ever decide to take Shadow on seriously, you should shoot me a PM.

 

[RedFire]

T

That would be great. I need help with the technical aspect of it.

However, if I were to take on such a project i'd have troubles working on it.
My PC has broke down and I won't be getting a laptop until Christmas.
I'm stuck using my brother's mac and I don't quite know how to use Wine.

 

[Ronaldmcdonald]

That would be great. I need help with the technical aspect of it.

However, if I were to take on such a project i'd have troubles working on it.
My PC has broke down and I won't be getting a laptop until Christmas.
I'm stuck using my brother's mac and I don't quite know how to use Wine.

Well, if you are over 19 you just drink it. Or you can give it to someone as a present

 

[Wolfric]

It surprises me it's the Top Download on Brawl Vault, being such a poor PSA, one of the obvious things, leave his NB as Sonic's, they did it the same way in S.A. 2, why make him levitate?

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

What's stranger is that there is a good Shadow moveset NOT on Brawlvault hidden in the forums. It's over here.

http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=9434.0

Back on topic: Good to see a tweet after a day without them.

 

[Akuma2120]

What's stranger is that there is a good Shadow moveset NOT on Brawlvault hidden in the forums. It's over here.

http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=9434.0

Back on topic: Good to see a tweet after a day without them.

Actually I think the Battle Shadow PSA is better than that, his moveset flows together better.

I actually have a very long and pretty detailed moveset and attribute list for a PSA for Shadow, I made it for Razanak because he was making Shadow and he was using it, he gave up though. If anyone wants it just ask I still have it.

 

[Dantarion]

Stop discussing PSA's in this thread.
Anyways, I will be home Wednesday, and this weekend ill probably have a good chance to really work on the Clone Engine, amoung other things

 

[Hyperpulse]

Excuse my noobiness, but what excatly is the clone engine?
From what I've heard, it will allow PSAs and Animation-sets to be costume-specific rather than character-specific; correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[SqLeon]

Excuse my noobiness, but what excatly is the clone engine?
From what I've heard, it will allow PSAs and Animation-sets to be costume-specific rather than character-specific; correct me if I'm wrong.

I would think, to put it simply, add characters not replace. Whether it be animations, psa, costumes, nothing should replace another character

 

[Link40]

So, some news from the clone engine ? I've I undestood well, you will be working on it this week-end.

Good luck, I hope it will be ready in a few weeks

 

[Raqib]

So, some news from the clone engine ? I've I undestood well, you will be working on it this week-end.

Good luck, I hope it will be ready in a few weeks

"(@dantarion)
9/23/10 8:01 AM
Clone Engine 2.0 day 1. Roy working 100% BUT Roy vs Marth not working. Back to the drawing board"

Straight from his Twitter

 

[ds22]

1 day old tweet is old.

"(@dantarion)
9/23/10 11:21 AM
@ds22R I was reusing so much of Marths slot that the game was considering marth and roy to be the same charcter"

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

He's adding a bit more info to the OPENSA wiki.

http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Clone_Engine_IC_Const

 

[Wolfric]

Dantairion on his Twit: Success! Added info to the OpenSA wiki!

Does it means it's possible to add more characters? o_o

 

[smasher4roy]

saw the list but who is mariod

 

[RandomTBush]

saw the list but who is mariod

Most likely a debugger version of Mario.

 

[standardtoaster]

MarioD is debug mario.

 

[Wolfric]

Ok, so, how will this work? Is it possible to have more char slots now?

EDIT: What's TOONSHEIK/TOONZELDA/PRAMAI/MEWTWO/DR_MARIO/ROY/DIXIE/MARIOD doing there? Those are the other "7 slots"? But why are they 8? Uh.. I'm surely waiting for this! o_o

 

[Mr.Chuy]

Ok, so, how will this work? Is it possible to have more char slots now?

EDIT: What's TOONSHEIK/TOONZELDA/PRAMAI/MEWTWO/DR_MARIO/ROY/DIXIE/MARIOD doing there? Those are the other "7 slots"? But why are they 8? Uh.. I'm surely waiting for this! o_o

Those are the forbidden 7 and the debug version of mario nothing special