LanceStern
Smash Lord
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Chula Vista/San Diego Smash Presents: The Gauntlet April 28th
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awww checked it too late.
AzN_Lep
Smash Champion
Question for WGF!
Hey SD Brawl! I'm probably going to type up a storm, so bear with me please. I don't really know how I'm to get in contact with the brawl community to get their general consensus as a whole since the AiB forums are pretty dead, so I thought I'd do the next best thing and ask the few guys I know that keep in touch with brawlers.
Long story short, I want to try and format the tournament in such a way so that people playing singles in both games only have to focus on one game at a time. The three schedules I came up with were as follows:
OPTION A: Classic Format
Day 1
Melee Doubles Pools
Melee Singles Pools
Brawl Doubles Pools
Brawl Singles Pools
Day 2
Melee Doubles Bracket
Melee Singles Bracket
Brawl Doubles Bracket
Brawl Singles Bracket
OPTION B: New Melee Format, Classic Brawl Format
Day 1
Melee Singles Pools
Melee Singles Bracket
Brawl Doubles Pools
Brawl Singles Pools
Day 2
Melee Doubles Pools
Melee Singles Pools
Brawl Doubles Bracket
Brawl Singles Bracket
OPTION C: Classic Melee Format, New Brawl Format
Day 1
Melee Doubles Pools
Melee Singles Pools
Brawl Singles Pools
Brawl Singles Bracket
Day 2
Melee Doubles Bracket
Melee Singles Bracket
Brawl Doubles Pools
Brawl Doubles Bracket
Alright so the melee community vastly favors having their tournament ran with the classic format and have basically tossed option B out the window because doing singles before doubles is blasphemy. My questions to you guys are: A) How important is it to have doubles before singles? And B) Would the brawl community mind option C, that is doing all of singles on day 1, and all of doubles on day 2?
The advantage to this format would be that by splitting the days that singles are played on, brawl gets all the hype on day 1, which includes the projector, seating, etc. (I know this was a bit of a problem last year) and in addition, players that wish to compete in brawl and melee would be able to focus on brawl for day 1 and melee for day 2.
This disadvantage to this format is that singles finishes on day 1. My main concern with this is the chance that nobody is going to want to enter brawl doubles on the day 2, which actually would help finish the tournament on time, but would be a major bummer. My solution to try to remedy this problem is having a guaranteed pot. Both doubles and singles will have an equal pot size, regardless of attendance. Hopefully this'll keep the interest sparked in doubles.
Anyways thanks a ton for reading this all the way through. Please discuss it at any future smashfests/tournaments and post what the general consensus is. Any and all input would be greatly appreciated.
Hey SD Brawl! I'm probably going to type up a storm, so bear with me please. I don't really know how I'm to get in contact with the brawl community to get their general consensus as a whole since the AiB forums are pretty dead, so I thought I'd do the next best thing and ask the few guys I know that keep in touch with brawlers.
Long story short, I want to try and format the tournament in such a way so that people playing singles in both games only have to focus on one game at a time. The three schedules I came up with were as follows:
OPTION A: Classic Format
Day 1
Melee Doubles Pools
Melee Singles Pools
Brawl Doubles Pools
Brawl Singles Pools
Day 2
Melee Doubles Bracket
Melee Singles Bracket
Brawl Doubles Bracket
Brawl Singles Bracket
OPTION B: New Melee Format, Classic Brawl Format
Day 1
Melee Singles Pools
Melee Singles Bracket
Brawl Doubles Pools
Brawl Singles Pools
Day 2
Melee Doubles Pools
Melee Singles Pools
Brawl Doubles Bracket
Brawl Singles Bracket
OPTION C: Classic Melee Format, New Brawl Format
Day 1
Melee Doubles Pools
Melee Singles Pools
Brawl Singles Pools
Brawl Singles Bracket
Day 2
Melee Doubles Bracket
Melee Singles Bracket
Brawl Doubles Pools
Brawl Doubles Bracket
Alright so the melee community vastly favors having their tournament ran with the classic format and have basically tossed option B out the window because doing singles before doubles is blasphemy. My questions to you guys are: A) How important is it to have doubles before singles? And B) Would the brawl community mind option C, that is doing all of singles on day 1, and all of doubles on day 2?
The advantage to this format would be that by splitting the days that singles are played on, brawl gets all the hype on day 1, which includes the projector, seating, etc. (I know this was a bit of a problem last year) and in addition, players that wish to compete in brawl and melee would be able to focus on brawl for day 1 and melee for day 2.
This disadvantage to this format is that singles finishes on day 1. My main concern with this is the chance that nobody is going to want to enter brawl doubles on the day 2, which actually would help finish the tournament on time, but would be a major bummer. My solution to try to remedy this problem is having a guaranteed pot. Both doubles and singles will have an equal pot size, regardless of attendance. Hopefully this'll keep the interest sparked in doubles.
Anyways thanks a ton for reading this all the way through. Please discuss it at any future smashfests/tournaments and post what the general consensus is. Any and all input would be greatly appreciated.
LanceStern
Smash Lord
I think version 3 would definitely lose some players. once singles is done, there's not much incentive to keep going and do doubles
AzN_Lep
Smash Champion
i definitely agree, which is why i'd do a guaranteed pot for the tournament. At least 1k in each event regardless of attendance. hopefully that sparks incentive, especially once people (mainly UCSD students) think they have a better shot at money.
again though, ultimately the tournament is for the community. so if you guys don't think option C would work, or just prefer option A, lemme know.
again though, ultimately the tournament is for the community. so if you guys don't think option C would work, or just prefer option A, lemme know.
Col. Stauffenberg
Smash Lord
Hey there Pat.
Myself, I'd rather stick with the traditional option A. Trying to cram all of singles for either game into one day could be problematic.
If you want to get the opinion of more of the Brawl folks going, your best bet is probably to make a poll on the tournament page on AiB and get people to bump the page to make sure everyone notices.
Myself, I'd rather stick with the traditional option A. Trying to cram all of singles for either game into one day could be problematic.
If you want to get the opinion of more of the Brawl folks going, your best bet is probably to make a poll on the tournament page on AiB and get people to bump the page to make sure everyone notices.
I'd say option A of those ones, but what about an Option D?
Melee Doubles Pool
Melee Doubles Bracket
Brawl Doubles Pool
Brawl Doubles Bracket
Extra time will be used to start on singles pool for either game, then day 2 we finish pools and bracket for singles.
Melee Doubles Pool
Melee Doubles Bracket
Brawl Doubles Pool
Brawl Doubles Bracket
Extra time will be used to start on singles pool for either game, then day 2 we finish pools and bracket for singles.
LanceStern
Smash Lord
i think with that option (at least for people who play both games) you'd have to practice for both Melee singles and brawl singles for day 2, and that's what Patrick was trying to avoid. It can be very stressful and detrimental to your game
AzN_Lep
Smash Champion
Hey Stauffy, although i didn't put it in the schedule, i'm not constricting brawl singles to day 1, it could very well carry into day 2, which wouldn't be too problematic considering melee doubles are before melee singles on day 2. i'm not so much concerned with the time aspect of the new format as i am with the communities overall opinion with doing singles before doubles. the tournament will finish roughly around the same time regardless of the order.
Anyways, i know in the melee community doing singles before doubles is sacrilegious. i'm just wondering if the brawl community shares similar sentiments, and if not would they be opposed to having a tournament where singles is played first. From a TO standpoint i really like the idea of having each day focussed on a different game (mainly mic related match calling reasons, but livestream as well). And from the brawl/melee players standpoint, well LanceStern already nailed that one. I just don't want to step on any toes and make that the format if brawl players dislike the idea of singles before doubles.
Anyways, i know in the melee community doing singles before doubles is sacrilegious. i'm just wondering if the brawl community shares similar sentiments, and if not would they be opposed to having a tournament where singles is played first. From a TO standpoint i really like the idea of having each day focussed on a different game (mainly mic related match calling reasons, but livestream as well). And from the brawl/melee players standpoint, well LanceStern already nailed that one. I just don't want to step on any toes and make that the format if brawl players dislike the idea of singles before doubles.
Rickety
Peace and Love
I was going to post this in the Melee thread, but I just had to make sure that you saw it.
Stuaffy, thank you very, very much for coming all the way to the lodge to give me my binder! It was such a nice surprise seeing you! You have no idea how happy it made me to see you! Such a kind gesture, gosh! It's left me at a loss for words.
I love you! You are fabulous! <3
Stuaffy, thank you very, very much for coming all the way to the lodge to give me my binder! It was such a nice surprise seeing you! You have no idea how happy it made me to see you! Such a kind gesture, gosh! It's left me at a loss for words.
I love you! You are fabulous! <3
I'm down for option C. The singles and doubles event are a day apart. I think the reason most of us like doubles first and then singles is because doubles warms us up since we have a partner to fall back on. But since the events are on entirely different days you can't really use the warm up argument for that. I'm not really for any one in particular, but I would like to try something new. MLG has singles first and then doubles
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of course I skipped out on doubles to go to disneyworld
**Havok**
Smash Lord
Hey Pat! I think option A would be awesome, I always feel awkward if singles is before doubles. Doubles warms people up for the singles event.
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Tearbear
Smash Ace
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Ive never won teams and i really want to so someone awesome who i havent teamed with should team with me =]
smash 64 side event pleeease!
Awex
Smash Lord
If there's a spot in the SD carpool for oxnard, I wanna go! 
~automatic
Smash Legend
Matt's coming to this. Hype!
75% sure I'll be able to attend this.
75% sure I'll be able to attend this.
Zekeishere
Smash Ace
So, after San Diego 9, who wants to wake up at 7 the next day and drive out to Oxnard??
I kinda do.
I kinda do.
mikeHAZE
Smash Legend
i am down
vato_break
Smash Master
I will stay in SD overnight if you can take me ^_^
Zekeishere
Smash Ace
Vato, I'd be down to do that actually.
Zekeishere
Smash Ace
Terry, lemme apply to two jobs and I'll come.
Zekeishere
Smash Ace
~automatic
Smash Legend
There's a tournament in Tj on Sunday as well.
Awex
Smash Lord
I'm getting a little bit hyped for SD9. Who's free this week to practice with me? Can we play tomorrow Terry? I'm done with class after 3:15.
vato_break
Smash Master
Is tearthebear housing people this time?
Col. Stauffenberg
Smash Lord
S'gonna be hard to do when I don't enter tournaments.
Also Awex, I think Terry is still on the other side of the country right now.
Also Awex, I think Terry is still on the other side of the country right now.
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Uggg im going to a wedding this weekend =[ of someone i dont even know
i wanted to clock people with MK
i wanted to clock people with MK
Zekeishere
Smash Ace
Who of San Diego wants to go to the Oxnard tournament the day after SD9? =]