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Sudai

Sudai

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It's not that hard, just roll the control stick really fast. I learned about it in Brawl. Brawl's actually what got me into SDIing in Melee. I can only QCSDI in Melee when I -reeeallyy- focus though.
 
JCaesar

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There is no ASDI in Brawl.

And about Zelda's usmash, the repeating hits have 5% of the SDI potential of a normal hitbox, if that says anything. If you managed to SDI out, you probably either got grazed and got out right away, or got extremely lucky.

I like how the Project M team knows far more about the inner workings of Bawrl than even the official "Smash Researchers" :p


Oh ****, I'm no longer "Project Mperor"

Nooooooooooooooo!
 
Heartstring

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JCaesar said:
There is no ASDI in Brawl.

And about Zelda's usmash, the repeating hits have 5% of the SDI potential of a normal hitbox, if that says anything. If you managed to SDI out, you probably either got grazed and got out right away, or got extremely lucky.

I like how the Project M team knows far more about the inner workings of Bawrl than even the official "Smash Researchers" :p


Oh ****, I'm no longer "Project Mperor"

Nooooooooooooooo!
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sdi potential? never heard of this before, is there any article sitting around about it?
also 5% sdi potential sound about right, i can never get out of that damn thing
 
JCaesar

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I dunno if there are any articles about it. But basically, every hitbox has a hitlag multiplier and an SDI multiplier, both of which affect the attack's SDI potential (as you should already know, you can only SDI during hitlag). Zelda's usmash hitlag multiplier is .5, meaning that you have half the number of frames to SDI on than you would on a normal attack doing the same amount of damage (which is already very low), and its SDI multiplier is .1, meaning that every time you do SDI it, it moves your character 10% of the distance of a normal SDI movement. Hence why it's essentially impossible to SDI out of Zelda's usmash. You just have to hope you get lucky and the move throws you out of it on its own.
 
Heartstring

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right, are there any other moves that are note worthy for extraordinatily low/high SDI possibilities, i alwys find zelda's dtilt to be hard to sdi too
 
Heartstring

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Oro?! said:
Have you tried side B?
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yes i have, tis the only thing i do with him on it, and its also influenced by normal brawl play thank you very much XD
but hes not broken atall in comparison to the other chars, can you at least make aether go higher or something? XD
 
Indigo Jeans

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So I just checked Zelda's USmash in OS-

JCaesar said:
There is no ASDI in Brawl.

And about Zelda's usmash, the repeating hits have 5% of the SDI potential of a normal hitbox, if that says anything. If you managed to SDI out, you probably either got grazed and got out right away, or got extremely lucky.

I like how the Project M team knows far more about the inner workings of Bawrl than even the official "Smash Researchers" :p


Oh ****, I'm no longer "Project Mperor"

Nooooooooooooooo!
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JCaesar said:
I dunno if there are any articles about it. But basically, every hitbox has a hitlag multiplier and an SDI multiplier, both of which affect the attack's SDI potential (as you should already know, you can only SDI during hitlag). Zelda's usmash hitlag multiplier is .5, meaning that you have half the number of frames to SDI on than you would on a normal attack doing the same amount of damage (which is already very low), and its SDI multiplier is .1, meaning that every time you do SDI it, it moves your character 10% of the distance of a normal SDI movement. Hence why it's essentially impossible to SDI out of Zelda's usmash. You just have to hope you get lucky and the move throws you out of it on its own.
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:fuuu: Beat me to it.

JCaes, U R right.

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Dat 11 hits.
 
Syde7

Syde7

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Happy Holidays to all my ROBros&sisters. Hope everyone's holiday season is AWESOME.

On an unrelated note, anyone with some legit account hacking skills want to help me out with somethin' fun? Hrmm?
 
HollaAtchaBoy

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Of ****ing course.

Single handedly the absolute worst anime I've ever had the displeasure of seeing. The level of fanservice is through the ****ing roof and it sends me into a salty rage whenever I think about it.
 
ipitydatfu

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i dont know how they cast for these game shows. so many dumb people. :(

tenjou tenge. is the only type of the genre i enjoyed. but even then, it went downhill for me.

ikki tousen. dajayman, have you heard of that?
 
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