Chrono Trigger Mafia: Omni and Scamp Win! Adumbrodeus wins!

[adumbrodeus]

Nobody caught on to the breadcrumbing, it should be obvious what my power does, I'm disappointed in all of you.


I targeted Joel, that's why he's voteless.




I think Shaya and Edreese claims should be tested.



As far as my general scum choices, I need to review and re-evaluate, I'll post general scum targets, but remember, in this game flavor is obviously more then flavor, and I'd consider abilities concrete information.

 

[Rajam]

didn't you said your ability only works on Lavos?

 

[adumbrodeus]

You misunderstood, I said that it says it works on lavos, again I've been breadcrumbing what exactly it does for a while now.

 

[Scamp]

I never follow breadcrumbs. Can't you just blurt it out?

 

[Shaya]

I think Shaya and Edreese claims should be tested..

Are you saying that you could have voted day 2?
Or that you used the ability on yourself or something?

Edrees did state he used the power on you night 1 and night 2 on me. Were you or were you not voteblocked? Unless someone else can vote block and hasn't revealed this yet (if so, someone should state so).

I can assure you that I was vote blocked today though. If what you say is true about your ability (and that you blocked joel). Is yours purely vote blocking? Why didn't you use it night 1?

 

[adumbrodeus]

Are you saying that you could have voted day 2?
Or that you used the ability on yourself or something?

Edrees did state he used the power on you night 1 and night 2 on me. Were you or were you not voteblocked? Unless someone else can vote block and hasn't revealed this yet (if so, someone should state so).

I can assure you that I was vote blocked today though. If what you say is true about your ability (and that you blocked joel). Is yours purely vote blocking? Why didn't you use it night 1?

No I could not vote day 2, Edrees used his ability on me.

No it is not purely vote blocking, remember when I revealed that I couldn't vote I started going into possibilities of what the ability could do.

Heh? I already explained what happened with it n1.

 

[Shaya]

Oops forgot about pierce.

Anyway I won't be on tomorrow (my time) running a tournament.

 

[Pierce7d]

Okay, it's Saturday. While I still have obligations in real life, my show was last night, so I'm no longer bogged down by rehearsals, etc. You should see my activity returning to a healthy level.

Omni, to answer your question, the name of my ability is Hero.

Also, I have a THEORY. .joel claims that he cannot vote, but Edrees did not target him, and he is the reason people are unable to vote. It's possible he targeted a person who could leach powers if they survived getting hit by one. There was a similar power in FF6 Mafia. This power was Mafia.

Second THEORY - Lavos is the ONLY initial Mafia. He recruits new Mafia, Independants are responsible for taking out spawns to win, Town is responsible for taking out Lavos.

FOS: DMG
Thinking about everything, we've seen town get sexy boosts from various time zones, and we haven't really seen Mafia get anything. Your power only seems like it's excellent to balance town from being too broken, and very, very Mafia based. Town really wouldn't have use for such a power as far as we can tell, and we know far more now than we did before. We're in majority already, and already control where town goes. Why would we want to block a zone?

And also, this inactivity play has kept us floating to DMG, but never putting heavy pressure on him, and he's gotten away with it too, because we've been focusing on other things, and most of the players have been consistently active to the best of their abilities. He's skimming by on being the first semi-confirmed townie, because he claimed first, but now nearly everyone has claimed, and we haven't come up with any baddies yet, so I'm free to start HEAVILY suspecting DMG.

Hell with it Vote: DMG (vote sized buffed so OS could see it despite being a large post)

Also, Shaya still fishy. You fire a power on me day one, and it bounces back, but you say nothing? Adum has a supposedly legit reason for not saying anything. His power is SUPPOSED TO WORK ON LAVOS. So hitting me and it bouncing off says to him that I'm not Lavos. As you can see, I can still vote, and hitting me with that power is supposed to block my ability to vote, so there we go, my power is real. But Shaya, if you are town, why the hell would you wait until AFTER Chibo puts you on blast to let people know your power bounced off of me?

FOS: Shaya, still

I know it's hard for you guys to trust me right now, because I have a stupidly fishy power. However, I'm going to need for town to trust me, because if you ALL waste your powers tonight trying to determine whether I'm spawn or Lavos, then Mafia is going to have a lot of free time to operate without getting hit with your power. If you must do further testing, then pick someone to hit me with a power, and watch it bounce off, again.

I'm going to try to comprise a list of all players, and their revealed powers, to help keep things organized, and the information we know so far. I've read everything, but haven't had time to reread, etc, like I usually do. It would be helpful for people to add on things I've missed. Remind me if we learned who visited who. That's also important. Any key information is important. People who said they couldn't vote and when, etc.

Also, Adum, I appreciate you sticking your neck out to protect me.

Also, remember that this list is not meant to confirm anyone, and information on it may be false. I'm merely trying to collect given data. Also, if you're not scum, you shouldn't remind repeating what you already said to clear up my notes.

Also, why the hell haven't we seen a night kill yet? Is our Doc that clutch? Perhaps Lavos has the ability to recruit or night kill, and he's focused on recruiting. Makes sense, to me, now that he's not scared of hitting independents by accident. I guess, if someone scared him before, but he didn't know if they were indy or town, he could night kill to be safe, but now the Indy's are out in the open, so he's probably just going to stick to trying to recruit townies. They were since day 1, before the first night, so perhaps Lavos got really lucky in this regard, instead of us. That would explain why Chrono has an anti-kill ability as well, and it not be broken for town.

Shadowlink - Chrono: Anti-kill townie, lynched day one, can be revived with Chrono Doll

Omni - Independant Mason (what's your character's name again Omni?). Wins by exiting the game when there are no Lavos Spawns

Scamp - Independant Mason (what's your character's name again Scamp?). Wins by exiting the game when there are no Lavos Spawns

DMG - Town (Character name again please?): Can block a timezone once per day. Very inactive. Blocked Future n1 AND n2. n1 block was agreed by town, but he was requested to NOT block anything n2.

Rajam - Robo: (Power name again please?) Can Triple Time vote in Future, and Double Vote in future

Chibo - Ayla: Town Tracker, lynched day two, could search a person to see who they visited at night, could do this twice in Prehistoric

Pierce - Frog: Heroic Townie, Is immune to being targeted by night actions. Cannot tell when he's targeted. Has repelled Shaya and Adum.

.joel - Marle: Town Doc, can protect from night kill or Spawn attack. Can do this for two people in (1000 A.D.????) but cannot target self. Cannot vote.

Shaya - Gaspar, Town Time Scanner: Are told the abilities of a person, needs to correctly guess time period in order to use it again. Targeted Pierce n1, failed. Has yet to guess time period correctly this far. Immune to being night killed once. Guessed we would go vote 600A.D. during d2.

Adum - Magus: Has an ability that hits Lavos, or voteblocks someone for the next day. Hit Pierce n1 and .joel n2. Could not vote d2

Edrees - Schala: town spawn hunter, Can kill Lavos Spawn, or voteblock someone for day. Hit Adum n1 and Shaya n2

Adum's ability probably kills Lavos. He probably didn't want to outright say that, because it means that he would most definitely be Lavos' number one target. If I were Doc, I'd protect Adum tonight.

To top off this post, I'll list the people I'm suspicious of in the order I'd want them lynched.

DMG
Shaya

Ed
Rajam

Adum
.joel

Scamp
Omni

Pierce

I don't really have heavy suspicions on anyone below Shaya.

 

[Pierce7d]

Yeah, thinking about it more, why would DMG block a period we haven't been to when looking for a Chrono Doll?

 

[Red Arremer]

Omni's and Scamp's characters are named Masa and Mune, as indicated by the OP.

 

[Red Arremer]

DMG's character is named Lucca.

And yes, 2 people in 1000 AD.

 

[Red Arremer]

Shaya - Gaspar, Town Time Scanner: Are told the abilities of a person, needs to correctly guess time period in order to use it again. Targeted Pierce n1, failed. Has yet to guess time period correctly this far. Immune to being night killed once. Guessed we would go vote 600A.D. during d2.

Okay, am I the only one who finds that power to be incredibly scummy?

This sounds exactly like something Lavos might be able to do.
Here's a possible theory:
Lavos has to time travel on his own, and he can only recruit and/or nightkill when he is in the correct timezone. He guessed the time correctly for N1 and targeted Pierce to be recruited/killed, but Pierce's ability blocked him from doing so. For N2, he guessed it wrong.
Additionally, he learns what the victim's abilities are if he recruits them.
And, Gaspar is an incredibly minor character in the game, so it would make sense for him to be actually a safeclaim.

To add into this speculation, Shaya tried to toss seed of distrust between town and the indy masons, and generally is very unhelpful, doesn't seem to want to scumhunt, and he's fairly inactive.

Since I cannot vote toDay:
FoS: Shaya

 

[Pierce7d]

To add onto that, being able to evade night kill once is easily a fake ability if you're the one doing the night killing, but it seems pro-town. Why would Mafia need to evade night kill?

 

[Red Arremer]

We have a Lavos killer.

 

[Rajam]

Pierce, though I totally agree that DMG has been lurking and playing poorly, I really think he is not Lavos but at this point I do think he is a spawn. He revealed that he can revive me, which I wanted to keep hidden; he mentioned it from nothing, no one was asking why he knows robo is town, and revealing that was plain stupid, and totally anti-town... I don't want him dead because i believe he is Lucca and the one that can revive me (though in my role it only says "someone" can revive me), and I want to find Lavos, not Lavos spawns by now; I want to find the main problem for town. Spawns are for Indies by now. But I'm seriously thinking he is a spawn

FOS: DMG

My candidates for being Lavos are, in this order: Shaya and Edreeses (same priority), joel, and adum to a lesser extent. I'll check old posts and see what can I find out. I'm also believing the original setup was 2 indies, 2 mafia, 7 town, with the 2 mafia being Lavos and his spawn. It's not unlikely to think Lavos is working "alone" in the sense that the other mafia are only spawns

Another thing to address is what time are we traveling next Day. EoT, 600 AD (it seems Shaya wants to go here), 2300 AD (I want to go here), Pre-historic (I don't see any point going back here), or Present (we won't find the doll remaining here but if we believe joel, he can protect two of us unless he gets role-blocked or killed)

 

[Red Arremer]

To explain it:
Imagine that Lavos is the very first target of the Lavos killer (speaking of adumbrodeus here, btw, though i'm not sure if it actually kills Lavos), the game would be over after Night 1. That's, I guess at least, why Lavos would have 1 nightkill block.

 

[Pierce7d]

Final Vote Count for Day 2:

Pierce7D (1)- Shaya
Chibo (5) - DMG, Pierce7D, edreesespieces, Rajam, .joel

Time periods
Present: 1000 A.D. - Pierce7D, .joel, Rajam
Pre-historic: 65,000,000,000 B.C.- Chibo

Not voting:
Adumbrodeus, Chibo,

Interesting that DMG was first to vote the tracker.

 

[Pierce7d]

Good read .joel. I also don't think .joel is the enemy. Claiming right away couldn't have been a planned strategy, because claiming just to get a kill on Chibo probably isn't worth it, especially when Chibo and most of town didn't suspect him, and was screwing up town in all sorts of ways.

I don't think any townie gets a buff from 600A.D. since I'm Frog, and I do not. However, Magus is from there, and may or may not get a buff. At this point, it's reasonably reliable to use some flavor, because patterns are beginning to show up. Someone who knows more about Chrono Trigger than me help me out here.

2300 A.D. the Future? It's blocked because of DMG.

WAIT A MINUTE! DMG is the one who confirmed Robo town, but then also claims that based off the available powers, the Future seems the most dangerous because ROBO's Power is the most broken? WTF?!?!!?!?!?

 

[adumbrodeus]

Also, I have a THEORY. .joel claims that he cannot vote, but Edrees did not target him, and he is the reason people are unable to vote. It's possible he targeted a person who could leach powers if they survived getting hit by one. There was a similar power in FF6 Mafia. This power was Mafia.

I suppose that you built this post section by section as you went through posts, cause you answer this in your later posts.

Also, Shaya still fishy. You fire a power on me day one, and it bounces back, but you say nothing? Adum has a supposedly legit reason for not saying anything. His power is SUPPOSED TO WORK ON LAVOS. So hitting me and it bouncing off says to him that I'm not Lavos. As you can see, I can still vote, and hitting me with that power is supposed to block my ability to vote, so there we go, my power is real. But Shaya, if you are town, why the hell would you wait until AFTER Chibo puts you on blast to let people know your power bounced off of me?

Actually, there's another reason, I wanted to confirm that it was just selective immunity based on time periods. I actually considered Chibo's assertion, as a possibility, when I realized the power the power failed to do anything that is.


Regardless, I'm wondering why we don't have any of the other members of the set, I could easily see Gaspar as being a safe-claim for lavos, schala is also a possibility since she's not one of the 6 heroes.







As far as people acting suspiciously, my main suspicion is on Rajam right now.


We noticed it before, and now again his play seems to improve substantially whenever a night phase happens, and then goes back down. I suspect he's a recruited spawn.



DMG is again being totally useless to town, again, probably a recruited spawn.



Shaya's behavior strikes me as... odd, and his minor character roleclaim without the appearance of the rest of the set also seems odd.




I took too long to write up this post...

 

[adumbrodeus]

EBWOP: As in I started writing this post following pierce's post, and now I got ultra-ninja'd cause I got distracted.

 

[Pierce7d]

12,000 BC is locked and you may not vote for it

My bad

 

[Red Arremer]

Lavos has to time travel on his own, and he can only recruit and/or nightkill when he is in the correct timezone. He guessed the time correctly for N1 and targeted Pierce to be recruited/killed, but Pierce's ability blocked him from doing so. For N2, he guessed it wrong.

This part of the theory would also possibly explain the title changes.

On D1, Lavos was in the same timezone, the title said "Go get Lavos".
On D2 (following N1), the title said "Lavos is hiding" or something among the lines, which is a very neutral statement.
Now on D3 (following N2), the title says "Where is Lavos?", and suggests that Lavos is not here.

 

[Pierce7d]

Yeah, Adum. I build my posts weird. It took me until composing that list to realize that two people were vote blockers. Now this makes me super-suspicious, because it's hard as hell to get majority vote when we're double vote blocking. In fact, it's FORTUNATE that you hit me day 1, because had I not been able to vote that day, things would have been mighty unfavorable for town (though accidentally lynching Chibo kinda negated that.)

Dark Ages are blocked, and I don't know anyone who claimed to have a power related to Dark Ages. Please clarify this everyone.

 

[Rajam]

Also, I would not be surprised if we find out Chrono was a spawn in day 1. If that's the case, indies were really unlucky with the hammer (again, we need to revive Chrono and ask him some things)

Thinking about it, (lots of flavor:) it even could make sense. Since Omni hammered Chrono, he dies. At the same time, indies win because they removed Lavos spawns, but maybe they both need to be alive in order to win. So they get killed both, because probably they share some kind of bond. They can be revived anyways and try again (...)

At this point, if we believe Omni (indies win if all spawns are removed), I guess the original spawn was Chrono (and Scamp to a lesser extent). They both died so it it's probable the spawn from day 1 is no longer in the game (end of flavor)

 

[Pierce7d]

I sincerely do not think that title has anything to do with anything. They are way too generic, and I could easily interpret them as this.

"Go get Lavos" - We're starting the game. Go

"Lavos is hiding" - He's blending among us, he's still our target.

"Where is Lavos" - Essentially the same as D2

Considering the way that we time travel, for Lavos to be able to travel independently is broken as hell. If you want me to counter with Flavor, then I'll just point out that in CT, you can attack Lavos in any time period.

I'd greatly prefer you drop this tangent, because everything else you're on about is pro-town as far as I can see, and this just seems like suspicious and distracting behavior.

 

[Pierce7d]

Rajam, that seems terribly unlikely.

 

[Rajam]

@Pierce: the name of my abilities are Time Double-Voter or Time Triple-Voter depending on which one I pick

 

[Rajam]

Okay, it's Saturday. While I still have obligations in real life, my show was last night, so I'm no longer bogged down by rehearsals, etc. You should see my activity returning to a healthy level.

Omni, to answer your question, the name of my ability is Hero.

Also, I have a THEORY. .joel claims that he cannot vote, but Edrees did not target him, and he is the reason people are unable to vote. It's possible he targeted a person who could leach powers if they survived getting hit by one. There was a similar power in FF6 Mafia. This power was Mafia.

Second THEORY - Lavos is the ONLY initial Mafia. He recruits new Mafia, Independants are responsible for taking out spawns to win, Town is responsible for taking out Lavos.

FOS: DMG
Thinking about everything, we've seen town get sexy boosts from various time zones, and we haven't really seen Mafia get anything. Your power only seems like it's excellent to balance town from being too broken, and very, very Mafia based. Town really wouldn't have use for such a power as far as we can tell, and we know far more now than we did before. We're in majority already, and already control where town goes. Why would we want to block a zone?

And also, this inactivity play has kept us floating to DMG, but never putting heavy pressure on him, and he's gotten away with it too, because we've been focusing on other things, and most of the players have been consistently active to the best of their abilities. He's skimming by on being the first semi-confirmed townie, because he claimed first, but now nearly everyone has claimed, and we haven't come up with any baddies yet, so I'm free to start HEAVILY suspecting DMG.

Hell with it Vote: DMG (vote sized buffed so OS could see it despite being a large post)

Also, Shaya still fishy. You fire a power on me day one, and it bounces back, but you say nothing? Adum has a supposedly legit reason for not saying anything. His power is SUPPOSED TO WORK ON LAVOS. So hitting me and it bouncing off says to him that I'm not Lavos. As you can see, I can still vote, and hitting me with that power is supposed to block my ability to vote, so there we go, my power is real. But Shaya, if you are town, why the hell would you wait until AFTER Chibo puts you on blast to let people know your power bounced off of me?

FOS: Shaya, still

I know it's hard for you guys to trust me right now, because I have a stupidly fishy power. However, I'm going to need for town to trust me, because if you ALL waste your powers tonight trying to determine whether I'm spawn or Lavos, then Mafia is going to have a lot of free time to operate without getting hit with your power. If you must do further testing, then pick someone to hit me with a power, and watch it bounce off, again.

I'm going to try to comprise a list of all players, and their revealed powers, to help keep things organized, and the information we know so far. I've read everything, but haven't had time to reread, etc, like I usually do. It would be helpful for people to add on things I've missed. Remind me if we learned who visited who. That's also important. Any key information is important. People who said they couldn't vote and when, etc.

Also, Adum, I appreciate you sticking your neck out to protect me.

Also, remember that this list is not meant to confirm anyone, and information on it may be false. I'm merely trying to collect given data. Also, if you're not scum, you shouldn't remind repeating what you already said to clear up my notes.

Also, why the hell haven't we seen a night kill yet? Is our Doc that clutch? Perhaps Lavos has the ability to recruit or night kill, and he's focused on recruiting. Makes sense, to me, now that he's not scared of hitting independents by accident. I guess, if someone scared him before, but he didn't know if they were indy or town, he could night kill to be safe, but now the Indy's are out in the open, so he's probably just going to stick to trying to recruit townies. They were since day 1, before the first night, so perhaps Lavos got really lucky in this regard, instead of us. That would explain why Chrono has an anti-kill ability as well, and it not be broken for town.

Shadowlink - Chrono: Anti-kill townie, lynched day one, can be revived with Chrono Doll

Omni - Independant Mason (what's your character's name again Omni?). Wins by exiting the game when there are no Lavos Spawns

Scamp - Independant Mason (what's your character's name again Scamp?). Wins by exiting the game when there are no Lavos Spawns

DMG - Town (Character name again please?): Can block a timezone once per day. Very inactive. Blocked Future n1 AND n2. n1 block was agreed by town, but he was requested to NOT block anything n2.

Rajam - Robo: (Power name again please?) Can Triple Time vote in Future, and Double Vote in future

Chibo - Ayla: Town Tracker, lynched day two, could search a person to see who they visited at night, could do this twice in Prehistoric

Pierce - Frog: Heroic Townie, Is immune to being targeted by night actions. Cannot tell when he's targeted. Has repelled Shaya and Adum.

.joel - Marle: Town Doc, can protect from night kill or Spawn attack. Can do this for two people in (1000 A.D.????) but cannot target self. Cannot vote.

Shaya - Gaspar, Town Time Scanner: Are told the abilities of a person, needs to correctly guess time period in order to use it again. Targeted Pierce n1, failed. Has yet to guess time period correctly this far. Immune to being night killed once. Guessed we would go vote 600A.D. during d2.

Adum - Magus: Has an ability that hits Lavos, or voteblocks someone for the next day. Hit Pierce n1 and .joel n2. Could not vote d2

Edrees - Schala: town spawn hunter, Can kill Lavos Spawn, or voteblock someone for day. Hit Adum n1 and Shaya n2

Adum's ability probably kills Lavos. He probably didn't want to outright say that, because it means that he would most definitely be Lavos' number one target. If I were Doc, I'd protect Adum tonight.

To top off this post, I'll list the people I'm suspicious of in the order I'd want them lynched.

DMG
Shaya

Ed
Rajam

Adum
.joel

Scamp
Omni

Pierce

I don't really have heavy suspicions on anyone below Shaya.

Shaya could perfectly be Lavos with that ability listed there (plus possibly others)

 

[Pierce7d]

Hmm, looking at DMG's powers, Rajam's Powers, and how they work together, they are hugely likely to be both town, or both Mafia. If we lynch Rajam today, and DMG revives him, it's likely that DMG is town, and Raj would be Mod-confirmed. We still have someone who can potentially target Lavos, and still people who can target spawn, and I highly doubt that D3 is lylo, with two confirmed indies, and at least town players knowing that they, themselves are town.

Omni/Scamp: Is it possible that you will be removed from the game out of your control outside of being directly killed or lynched? For example, is there possibly a time-zone you cannot exist in?

 

[adumbrodeus]

Let's see...


If a scum recruitment attempt bounced off you Pierce, then we've only got one recruitment so far. That would also mean shaya is anti-town, which means we have only one (or two, if there's an initial recruiter) mafia roles out of 7 voting, so 5 or 6 pro-town votes.


We've got a lynch.

 

[Pierce7d]

Request Votecount

 

[Red Arremer]

I'd greatly prefer you drop this tangent, because everything else you're on about is pro-town as far as I can see, and this just seems like suspicious and distracting behavior.

Yea, I wasn't planning on continuing the thought, I just thought it made a bit of sense. *shrug*

As said, I'd vote for Shaya if I could.

 

[Rajam]

It seems Shaya is going to be lynched. I'd vote for him too later. His claim and power is really scummy

If we're going to lynch him, we need to plan what we'll do if we find out his Gaspar's claim is true (and hence he is town confirmed). Who is a major threat is Shaya is town? What should the night actions be? ideas?

 

[Pierce7d]

I'll post this updated version, and if you do not correct any misinformation I have that YOU provided, I will be heavily suspicious of you. (I did not intentionally put in any misinformation to try and trap anyone, that would be more anti-town.)

Shadowlink - Chrono: Anti-kill townie, lynched day one, can be revived with Chrono Doll

Omni - Mune: Independant Twin-Mason. Wins by exiting the game when there are no Lavos Spawns

Scamp - Masa: Independant Twin-Mason. Wins by exiting the game when there are no Lavos Spawns

DMG - Lucca: Town (What is the name of your ability DMG?) Can block a timezone once per day. Very inactive.

Blocked Future n1 Dark Ages n2. n1 block was agreed by town, but he was requested to NOT block anything n2. Claimed that ROBO is 100% town, but we don't know how he has this information.

Rajam - Robo: Double Voter/Time Triple Voter. Can Triple Time vote in Future, and Double Vote in future. Visited no one d1. Claimed that could be revived by DMG (Lucca) once.

Chibo - Ayla: Town Tracker, lynched day two, could search a person to see who they visited at night, could do this twice in Prehistoric. n1 searched Rajam who visited no one and Shaya who visited Pierce

Pierce - Frog: Heroic Townie, Is immune to being targeted by night actions. Cannot tell when he's targeted. Has repelled Shaya and Adum.

.joel - Marle: Town Doc, can protect from night kill or Spawn attack. Can do this for two people in (1000 A.D.????) but cannot target self. Cannot vote.

Shaya - Gaspar, Town Time Scanner: Are told the abilities of a person, needs to correctly guess time period in order to use it again. Targeted Pierce n1, failed. Has yet to guess time period correctly this far. Immune to being night killed once. Guessed we would go vote 600A.D. during d2. Cannot vote toDay, d3

Adum - Magus: Has an ability that hits Lavos, or voteblocks someone for the next day. Hit Pierce n1 and .joel n2. Could not vote d2

Edrees - Schala: town spawn hunter, Can kill Lavos Spawn, but will voteblock someone for day if not spawn. Hit Adum n1 and Shaya n2

 

[adumbrodeus]

Pierce, I actually requested that he block something in order to confirm that he still had the ability since it's entirely possible that he's been recruited, generally culted players lose an ability.


And I'd prefer he'd keep doing that.

 

[Red Arremer]

@Pierce: As I already said, yes, I can protect 2 people in a 1000 AD-night.

 

[Rajam]

Okay, am I the only one who finds that power to be incredibly scummy?

This sounds exactly like something Lavos might be able to do.
Here's a possible theory:
Lavos has to time travel on his own, and he can only recruit and/or nightkill when he is in the correct timezone. He guessed the time correctly for N1 and targeted Pierce to be recruited/killed, but Pierce's ability blocked him from doing so. For N2, he guessed it wrong.
Additionally, he learns what the victim's abilities are if he recruits them.
And, Gaspar is an incredibly minor character in the game, so it would make sense for him to be actually a safeclaim.

To add into this speculation, Shaya tried to toss seed of distrust between town and the indy masons, and generally is very unhelpful, doesn't seem to want to scumhunt, and he's fairly inactive.

Since I cannot vote toDay:
FoS: Shaya

To Shaya's favor: If he is Lavos, it seems kind of tricky to trigger that ability to nightkill or recruit, considering Edreeses can kill spawns by his own, and that joel is a doctor with buffs in Present.

Honestly, I think Edreeses is more scummy than Shaya at this point. His ability seems broken and scummy to me (able to kill spawns at night or vote-blocking if they're town), and in combination with joel and Pierce it seems a little broken for town. He knew there were spawns since Day 1 but he remained in silence. He must've knew that revealing that info is super important for town, and if he is not the doctor, well the doctor (which at day 1 was unknown) could've protected him.

vote: EdreesesPieces

At the same time, just to play it safer, I'll vote for my time and at the same time avoid voting for Shaya's prefered time, just in case we find out Edreeses is town (and therefore, Shaya most likely would be Mafia).

Travel: Future 2300 AD

 

[Rajam]

I also prefer to try to find Chrono's doll instead of giving joel the buff by remaining here. I don't fully trust his claim yet. I can't forget his hammer to Chibo. It also seems this time give a boost to indies so a little more reason to me for getting out of this period.

 

[Pierce7d]

UNVOTE

I don't want another mishap. Shaya and .joel cannot vote today. We need 5 to lynch because the Indys are back and Chrono and Ayla are dead. Please everyone unvote until we discuss this thoroughly and cleanly, and have a clear plan of action. Also, we should delve partially into plans for tomorrow based on possible outcomes.

We should give Shaya one more chance to speak before beheading him I feel. We've already jumped the gun on two townies. I've learned my lesson, now that I realize how critical Chibo's power was (and curse him for being so bad at town play, smh)

Actually, I'm going to request that the super confirmed INDYs both vote for Shaya and no one else vote for Shaya, so that way Mafia can't simply vote or use an unnamed Double Vote to bypass us on a time-out or something.

I'm also feeling pretty comfortable, because based on my theory, Lavos will have to kill me to get me out of the game, and that means one less spawn. Catch me if you can Lavos

Town, please help me consider the following strategy:

If Raj is town, then we can set up a strong castle in Future. We carry him to late game, where he can time vote there, or double vote, keeping us from being at Lylo one day sooner. Furthermore, he can be revived once if DMG is true. This makes ROBO a really, good castle play, and since tracker is done with, this seems like the strongest power to play off of that's available to town, IF Raj is indeed town.

However, this plan has a gap because Raj can be turned into spawn, which is a good way for Lavos to slip through our defenses and topple us pretty hard. Doc can protect him for a while, but right now I feel it's smartest to target Adum for protection. We can have periodic checks on ROBO, but this does slow us from actively hunting Lavos. Plus, checking if he's spawn ends up vote-blocking him if he's not. Overall, this is a defensive play, and it's decent but not flawless, I figure I'd present the option.

 

[Rajam]

Rajam - Robo: Double Voter/Time Triple Voter. Can Triple Time vote in Future, and Double Vote in future. Visited no one d1. Claimed that could be revived by DMG (Lucca) once.

I can be revived, but it's not 100% sure DMG can do it. It's not even 100% sure Lucca can do it. My role only says "someone" can revive me. I also claim that I had no night action at all in neither Night 1 and Night 2