Charged Smashes

[Sushi3]

After you glide toss a banana, you find that your opponent is in front of you. You can dsmash or fsmash for the kill. In this situation, since the opponent is still stunned, you have an opportunity to charge the smash for a bit before using it. How come ADHD (reference to a top player) doesn't do this? I'm sure it would decrease the %, if slightly, needed to get the kill.

Sorry if I'm mistaken, or I'm missing something.

 

[:mad:]

After you glide toss a banana, you find that your opponent is in front of you. You can dsmash or fsmash for the kill. In this situation, since the opponent is still stunned, you have an opportunity to charge the smash for a bit before using it. How come ADHD (reference to a top player) doesn't do this? I'm sure it would decrease the %, if slightly, needed to get the kill.

Sorry if I'm mistaken, or I'm missing something.

You do realize they can still roll away? Even while sliding, it won't make as big of a difference, if at all. You're better off getting what you can.

 

[mountain_tiger]

Guaranteed uncharged smash >>> Easy to escape charged smash

 

[Sushi3]

Guaranteed uncharged smash >>> Easy to escape charged smash

It's not "easy" to escape. The opponent is stunned, and you have a small amount of time to charge it, guaranteed. Nevertheless, it is still beneficial.

 

[Bellioes]

Yeah I think your right about slightly charged smashes being inescapeable. But, its better to just smash I think since if your not right in front, its possible to still walk and then smash right away. You wouldnt have the time to charge one if you walked.

Also, it could be for the surprise factor. Your opponent wont be able to tell which follow up you will do after the trip so they wont know which way to DI/how to react.

 

[ADHD]

Lol, I do. It only works on certain characters with slightly longer trip animations. You can only charge it for an extra 1% on real players and barely any boost of knockback. It's not that revolutionary.

 

[Le_THieN]

A lot of people in my region have started to do the normal wake-up out of a downed position (just push up on the directional stick) in order to manipulate a small number of invincibility frames in the middle of a banana peel lock. If you read this, it becomes feasible and probably even preferable that you charge a smash.

If you read a retreating roll off of a banana peel, you can often times start walking towards your opponent while it is getting buffered, and nail them with a D-smash while they are actually holding the directional stick away from you, just before they stand back up. The fact that you are catching them DIing away from the stage can extend the length of the knock-back on the D-smash significantly, and can be the difference in edge-guarding a recovering opponent or just surprise KOing them at earlier percentages.

 

[TreK]

I charge smashes only against characters like DK that bounce when tripped =/

 

[Skadorski]

What Le_Thien said. I notice people starting to just do "Up" out of a trip and if they only do up out of it we could charge our smashes a bit more.
But again it is only like 1-3 % more and if you're going to smash after it it should kill anyway.
vvvI know but like I said if you are going to smash it should kill anyway.
And if it DOESN'T kill then you just staled your F/Dsmash.

 

[Le_THieN]

The extra damage isn't as important as the extra knock-back.

 

[Dekar173]

A charged smash really changes the knockback. It sounds to me like you guys are all just lazy and fear missing the smash. An extra guaranteed 1% ? You bet your *** I'm going to go for it. Tech read for the kill? Again, I'm all over it.

@OP- despite it being old news, it IS nice to have this verified and confirmed that I'm not just some risky fool, and that this is guaranteed. Thanks


Also, even if it doesn't kill, that's extra time that the opponent will be forced to recover, time you can be using to better set up the stage and edgeguard.

It's win win.

 

[iDeo]

I was thinkin' of trying this as well. I don't really care much for the extra one percent but the knock-back is all I want.

But if certain characters have a longer trip time then maybe we should compile a little table on characters who have that longer trip effect or not. That way we all can know who to glide toss charge smash against.

It could possibly help in match-ups (not a lot of course), but it can give players facing Diddys who have that longer trip effect something to watch out for. Who knows; I think we should give it a try.

Agree/Disagree?

 

[Bellioes]

Heres what I know about different characters trip;

Longest Trip Animation: Pikachu/G&W

Shortest Trip Distance: Lucario/Wolf
Longest Trip Distance: Luigi

I dont really know who has the shortest trip animation but Im guessing its the largest group with several characters (sort of like the norm)

 

[Sushi3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZAkU_UYak

Would M2k have lost if 4:05 was a charged dsmash? Nothing against ADHD, just wondering.

 

[Kaptain Kong]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZAkU_UYak

Would M2k have lost if 4:05 was a charged dsmash? Nothing against ADHD, just wondering.

idk, m2k has AMAZING di, and probably could've survived...

not saying it's a bad idea, just sayin that it's m2k. :D

 

[ADHD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZAkU_UYak

Would M2k have lost if 4:05 was a charged dsmash? Nothing against ADHD, just wondering.

If i was as good back then as I am now he would've gotten 6-0'd :D. The thing is with charging your smashes is that you aren't understanding that the boost of knockback is so slight it's not even noticable.

 

[FOXYB]

But If Certain Characters Have A Longer Trip Time Then Maybe We Should Compile A Little Table On Characters Who Have That Longer Trip Effect Or Not. That Way We All Can Know Who To Glide Toss Charge Smash Against.

It Could Possibly Help In Match-ups (not A Lot Of Course), But It Can Give Players Facing Diddys Who Have That Longer Trip Effect Something To Watch Out For. Who Knows; I Think We Should Give It A Try.

Agree/disagree?

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