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I suppose it could work; honestly, that was the predominant reason I dismissed Sceptile so early. It just seems as though Greninja borrows what Sceptile could have used. Albeit, it would be one of the more unnecessary clones (reminiscent of Ganondorf). People would wish we got characters like Dark Pit or Dixie instead.
Of COURSE he is IN as many promotions, Game Freak knows you cannot have two of the three starter Pokemon present if you are going to properly represent Pokemon.
Naw; I don't think anyone wants nor believes that Dark Pit has any shot.
That's not Shiftry.Actually guys, I've found the perfect representative that fits the Grass Triad:
Just think about it for a second
I thought about it and the joke went over my head.Actually guys, I've found the perfect representative that fits the Grass Triad:
Just think about it for a second
Not necessarily what I intended to insinuate. A Sceptile clone of Greninja would be construed as wasted potential (as they share more differences than similarities) on par with Ganondorf. People do not want to see these characters misrepresented. In the case of characters, such as Dark Pit, there is not any misrepresentation as they share more similarities than differences.Of COURSE he is IN as many promotions, Game Freak knows you cannot have two of the three starter Pokemon present if you are going to properly represent Pokemon.
Naw; I don't think anyone wants or believes that Dark Pit has any shot.
Greninja's moves are unique to it. Sceptile doesn't move like a ninja, I imagine it would have quick wrist blade attacks and sluggish tail attacks.
I would certainly be complaining that Dark Pit should have gotten in instead.Greninja's moves are unique to it. Sceptile doesn't move like a ninja, I imagine it would have quick wrist blade attacks and sluggish tail attacks.
Dixie would be unique too, and if Sceptile got in, I don't think there'd be any complaints that Dark Pit should have gotten in instead.
. . .Actually guys, I've found the perfect representative that fits the Grass Triad:
Just think about it for a second
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Gender diversity? I suppose she is shoe-in at this rate.. . .
-fits grass trifecta. check.
-fits the role lack of gender diversity. check.
-???
Profit
Also sup everyone
Flying types are rare. Not even Charizard reps that fricken type & he's Dual Fire/Flying.
Oh I get it now. That would have been funnier actually.
Hmm... my statement was not directed towards you, it was for the quotation above that excerpt.
I do not understand this.
Serperior is the fifth generation final evolutionary form of the grass starter. It has just as much merit as Sceptile. However, in terms of grass starters, I prefer Dark Pit.
Eh, not as much merit as sceptile.Serperior is the fifth generation final evolutionary form of the grass starter. It has just as much merit as Sceptile. However, in terms of grass starters, I prefer Dark Pit.
Tell that to Charizard, and Blaziken in XY.Of COURSE he is IN as many promotions, Game Freak knows you cannot have two of the three starter Pokemon present if you are going to properly represent Pokemon.
However, in terms of grass starters, I prefer Dark Pit.
What do you mean?
You've just reminded me of that completely necessary Pitfall Harry support thread I've been meaning to create. Let's be honest, this is the man who revolutionized platforming. Bringing him in as our next third party would be time and money well spent. The hype he would generate would be staggering.You know, we argue all the time about how Sakurai can make anything playable. But... seriously, I do not think he would make a random dark pit playable. It is not a character, it is a stage hazard, and I can assure you that if Villager seemed too far stretched in Brawl's days, we havnt seen anything as inventive as making a Pitfall pit come to life!
It would also be a pretty poor choice for a third party addition.
Everyone who just escapes to the trifecta counter argument against Sceptile maybe forgot that:
1. Type Trio Triffecta TTT, hasn't technically been implemented as playable until Brawl on a gimmick character
2. Generation 1 is still the beginning & reason Pokemon is so huge, but IF Jigglypuff & Mewtwo return, why is Generation 1 still having over 4+ playable characters representing themselves in Sm4sh? We've overall throughout time had 6+ playable pokemon fighters for Gen. 1 come & go. We've had one Gen 2 rep
Giving my judgement on the 3 lets do this:
Mewtwo from Japan's predictions knew he'd make a huge hit over in the West from the First Pokemon Movie, & they were right on the spot. That's how it all began. His popularity of being the powerful strong type that actually spoke made his debut big here in the U.S.. His continued pushing of marketing to remain relevant throughout each Generation is sickening. No matter if he's from the Original 151 Gen. 1, he's still as popular as ever being ranked #2 most popular pokemon so it's no surprise. With the heavy demand of his fan-base & his relevancy, the thought of him being playable in SSB4 would make millions of fans satisfied & pleased to the max. But to be on topic of him being in a Smash Bros. fighting game, he NEEDS changes, he really needs a re-vamp. For a while he was mocked as the worst pokemon on the tier list, below Pichu! Time changed that making at least better on the tier list than Pichu but. . .only better than Pichu? A Baby Pokemon? By Pokemon Logic he should be the best Pokemon on that Tier List. But that's what separates the discussion. Smash Bros.. If we really want Mewtwo to return he needs something like his Project M game-play. I take Smash Bros. seriously & I'd really like Mewtwo returning with a better game-play than his Melee version.
For the love of green, grass, & reptile & dinosaur-like features, I would love nothing more than Sceptile let alone a grass type getting their own representation in Smash Bros.. Starting off strong on this to say that Sceptile has almost as much chance as Purin & Mewtwo. For what I love & what I believe in with my opinion, Sceptile needs to represent himself in the new Smash Bros., & there's more reasons than just this,![]()
First of all. . .no, just, no. It's not just about the type trio trifecta TTT, the type trio trifecta is just another pattern point to solidify his chances of getting in the game. Yes that Robin's healing / dealing Nosferatu being the first ever move of it's kind to be in SSB4 hurts Sceptile's chances because Sceptile wasn't the first, & that Mega-man's Leaf Shield also dents Sceptile's chances but they also both strengthen Sceptile's chances. For those who would be 100% serious about ignorantly arguing that Wood Man's weapon get from MegaMan 2 game first released in Japan, 1988, would help de-confirm Sceptile in the future Smash Bros. game, while also saying that Nosferatu also helps de-confirm Sceptile when that move was technically implemented in the FE games during Gaiden, in 1992?
Ivysaur made it possible, Venusaur implemented as a stage element in 64 & as another stage use in Poke Floats also being a pokeball summon, has made the idea of Grass types in Smash Bros., possible. Grass types, are possible. Robin & Mega-man technically help further prove, that a grass-type can make it in the game. When you have so much Fire, & not enough Water despite Pac-man's Hydrant move helping usage & decreasing the rarity of Water type moves. And Grass, a move barely representing by other elements used by different characters, you can't help but feel Sceptile or any Grass starter Pokemon, making a debut can you? /endgrassdebate.
Let's all keep in mind of this source.
Veterans MAY BE cut. This is a hard possibility that Purin, & Mewtwo won't make it & will be cut. Be reminded, that Super Smash Bros. 64 had 12 brand new playable characters now known as the O12. That's 12 newcomers, take a look at Melee's newcomers, there's 14 newcomers added to the Smash Bros. universe. Brawl had 18 brand-spanking fresh newcomers. Smash Brothers is getting MORE Newcomers than it is orignals returning to the fray. Melee's original cast making it to Brawl ended up with 5 cut characters, later found out after hacking the Brawl disc that there were intended characters that can be found here. The point is, Smash Bros. starting out small had the freedom to add more, but now the roster's size is getting bigger than we had hoped. Adding more newcomers there's bound to be cuts, Sakurai just may not have the time to bring back every, single character. With removing Mewtwo & Purin, it's quite possible though unlikely. When you see that many newcomers from Brawl & you see that SSB4 only has 13 newcomers right now? Think about it.
Right on then, I've got extra points to make out about Sceptile's chances that I don't see made, so I'll continue that in the morning then. Seeya
Are those people who aren't so sure called Sceptics?
People like that should go off somewhere into a community together. Maybe a tank. And just gestate there.
Be careful. You wouldn't want Sceptile to become the next Dark Pit... Shudders
I've been pulled back in. I see the
It's missing the "Shulk isn't playable" option.
Dark PitBoards- Home of the Dark Pit Speculation Community
Interesting theory.
Hmmm. . .there is technically 10+female fighters correct?You know what I find funny? During the time before Brawl, and even after it came out, lots of people were screaming for more female fighters.
Well, we got it, so if we do the same, does that mean Sma5h will have a ton of villains?
??Female Mii Fighters = all 3 slots?? . . .Villains in need of demand to be confirmed right now. I'll definitely shout for villains. a villain, he's more neutral to me, but I don't play Kirby so I'm probably wrong & I'm okay with that.
Hmmm. . .considering I've seen this texture too many times, & that means it hints strongly to what Kirby fans would like to see when you put a texture over an existing character. I'd assume he's a great addition. Though I wouldn't consider him full-blown clone, he has a lance, the idea behind his weapon is stabbing forward in thrusts, or quick slide blunt attacks, technically separating his way of sword-fighting apart from any other Slash-fighter. He won't be the first to use stabbing / thrusting jousts-like attacks because we know Link's rapid jab, & Marth's altered Shield Breaker from Brawl is returning to Sm4sh. So overall I approve his inclusion. I am also not a Kirby gaming fan & know very little so you may attack my opinion & justify me.
As long is there something a character can use (one or more of the weapons I suggested) to function differently a character can be in the roster as Sakurai has stated, so really it makes your similarity points null. And there is a franchise whom can be considered overrepresented (FE), yet Lucina was added as the filler popular clone and the 4th representative of FE. I don't really think overrepresentation is a true problem here.
