Character Discussion Thread

[Spinosaurus]

We got greninja, Charizard, sheik, Zero suit and Yoshi on a Sunday. So I believe it.

The Smash direct was on a Tuesday, actually.

AFAIK, we never got a reveal on the weekends and Monday.

 

[Xenorange]

We got greninja, Charizard, sheik, Zero suit and Yoshi on a Sunday. So I believe it.

The Smash direct was on a Tuesday, actually.

AFAIK, we never got a reveal on the weekends and Monday.

It was April 8th wasn't it?

We got greninja, Charizard, sheik, Zero suit and Yoshi on a Sunday. So I believe it.

The Smash direct was on a Tuesday, actually.

AFAIK, we never got a reveal on the weekends and Monday.

you're right I'm dumb. My bad everybody.

Sorry double post

 

[Weeman]

We got greninja, Charizard, sheik, Zero suit and Yoshi on a Sunday. So I believe it.

Sunday? that was on a tuesday, April 8th

 

[Rockaphin]

Lets talk about something different. What characters are you hoping to see appear in smash run as enemies? Here's my wishlist:
-Metool from mega man (confirmed)
-A really unfitting pokemon (Confirmed via Petil)
-SSE enemies (confirmed)
-Risen from FEA
-Ghosts from Luigi's mansion

• Any Paper Mario exclusive enemy like an X-Naut for example.
• Ghosts from the original Luigi's Mansion.
• 8-Bit Ducks from Duck Hunt.
• Klaptrap or Gnawty from Donkey Kong Country.
• Sableye or Haunter from Pokémon.

 

[Louie G.]

- Ghosts (Luigi's Mansion)
- Bees (Animal Crossing)
- Poppy Bro (Kirby)
- Arbok/Ekans (Pokemon)
- Shadow Things from Samurai Slice (Rhythm Heaven)

 

[Sonic Poke]

Youngster Joey summoning top percentage Rattatas.
Nuff' said.

 

[Morbi]

>believing this "leak"

>with not even any proof asides from "guys i got an email"

Come on guys. You can do better than that.

Come on.

I do not believe any leak; I was merely asserting that the notion that Snake is "EITHER playable OR not" is fallacious. I am asserting that it is presumptuous, there is nothing objective that supports that sentiment unless you account for the logical fallacy (hasty generalization) based on an out of context quote that is, more likely than not, being misconstrued. I would appreciate it if you did not put words in my mouth (insinuating that I believe something based on the fact that I do not believe the opposite perspective is erroneous).

The worst part of this? Six others "liked" your post. Hence the allusion to the bandwagon appeal fallacy. Pathetic.

 

[Xenorange]

• Egg pawns from sonic
• Buzz bombers
• Tropius
• Garchomp
• Scratch and Grounder

 

[Spinosaurus]

I definitely want more 3rd party enemies. Egg Robos and Mets are cool, let's see more! Especially for Sonic. Moto Bugs anyone?

As for Pac Man, all I could think of is the ghost design from Pac Land and Pac World.

 

[False Sense]

Lets talk about something different. What characters are you hoping to see appear in smash run as enemies?

-Risen (Fire Emblem Awakening)
-Mechon (Xenoblade Chronicles)
-Debt (Animal Crossing)
-Starmen/Cranky Civilians (Earthbound)
-Fighting Polygon Team (Super Smash Bros.)

 

[Morbi]

The characters I would like to see in Smash Run:
Stalfos (Mortal Kombat)
Lizalfos (Legend of Mario)
Keese (Splatoon)
Bubble (Punch Out!!)
Dark Nut (Star Fox or Metroid IIRC)
Octorok (Animal Crossing)
Moblin (Pokemon)
Wizzrobe (Yoshi's Island)
Wallmaster (Donkey Kong)
Tektite (Fire Emblem)
Peahat (Kirby)

 

[MasterOfKnees]

-Space Pirate (Metroid)
-Ing Warrior (Metroid)
-Bugsy (Kirby)
-Octobot (Earthbound)
-Hydreigon (Pokémon)
-Pirate Goom (Wario)

-Fighting Polygon Team (Super Smash Bros.)

And this is the best idea ever.

 

[Protom]

Enemies in smash run?
-Mewtwo
-Ridley
-K. Rool
-Ganandorf
-Wolf
-Meta Knight
-Wario
-Ghirahim

Spoiler

 

[Xenorange]

Enemies in smash run?
-Mewtwo
-Ridley
-K. Rool
-Ganandorf
-Wolf
-Meta Knight
-Wario
-Ghirahim

Spoiler

Spoiler

Don't forget Robin.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Smash run enemies?

Sharpclaw- StarFox
Lizalfos- Zelda
Grenchlers- Metroid Prime 2
Baby Sheegoths- Metroid Prime
Dark Gaia Forces- Sonic Unleashed

 

[Deleted member]

Enemies:
Mechon(Xenoblade Chronicles)
Motobug(Sonic)
Ghosts(Luigi's Mansion)
Boo(Mario)
X-naut(Paper Mario)
UFO(Kirby)
Wheelie(Kirby)
Burrowing Snagret(Pikmin)

 

[Autumn ♫]

Enemies in smash run?
-Mewtwo
-Ridley
-K. Rool
-Ganandorf
-Wolf
-Meta Knight
-Wario
-Ghirahim

Spoiler

*See's Vaati missing from the list*
Vaati confirmed for Ganondorf replacement!

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Motobug (Sonic)
Crabmeat (Sonic)
Ghost (Pac-Man)
Eggplant Wizard (Kid Icarus)
Fygar (Dig Dug)
The Sun (Mario)
Spike (Mario)
ReDead (Zelda)
ChuChu (Zelda)

 

[Weeman]

I do not believe any leak; I was merely asserting that the notion that Snake is "EITHER playable OR not" is fallacious. I am asserting that it is presumptuous, there is nothing objective that supports that sentiment unless you account for the logical fallacy (hasty generalization) based on an out of context quote that is, more likely than not, being misconstrued. I would appreciate it if you did not put words in my mouth (insinuating that I believe something based on the fact that I do not believe the opposite perspective is erroneous).

The worst part of this? Six others "liked" your post. Hence the allusion to the bandwagon appeal fallacy. Pathetic.

Honestly while it's true that stating the "Snake is either playable or not in the game" thing as a fact is indeed fallacious, it's not a baseless assumption either. While we might not know the exact process of obtaining Snake's right to use him in the game, we do know that Konami is a lucrative company that regardless of whatever use Sakurai has for Snake, they wouldn't simply give him for free, and from the context of Sakurai's quote we can assume that the process of getting the rights isn't as simple as asking to a friend to let you use his phone.
So i think that it is a safe assumption to believe that Sakurai wouldn't get the rights of a franchise just to use one character as a trophy. With that said i agree that people were quick to misenterpret your comment and i apologize if this sounded offensive in any way, since i do not have intentions of discrediting your comments.

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

- Pigmasks (MOTHER)
- Mechon (Xenoblade)
- Risen (Fire Emblem)
- Chimera (MOTHER)
- Chuchus (Legend of Zelda)
- Rattata (Pokémon)

 

[Gunla]

I'd like to see the M32 Scout, M72 Unit and Offensive Hover Unit Mechon be Smash Run enemies. They'd be excellent additions and fearsome foes for the fighters. We've already got Pooka, Mettaurs and Motobugs from the Third Party franchises, but I really am curious what we'll see from other games. Maybe ROB enemies will return? Perhaps more SSE enemies? The latter seems very likely at this point with Smash Run being SSE combined with City Trial for the rogue's gallery of minor foes. (And nonsense Pokemon.)

As for other enemies, I'd prefer to see characters like Grima and Metal Face be bosses. Especially Metal Face.

I was merely asserting that the notion that Snake is "EITHER playable OR not" is fallacious. I am asserting that it is presumptuous, there is nothing objective that supports that sentiment unless you account for the logical fallacy (hasty generalization) based on an out of context quote that is, more likely than not, being misconstrued.

Well, Third Party Contracts do kind of make it so he's guaranteed to be playable. He's in or he's out. Nintendo would guarantee just having it as a trophy is a waste of contracting time and possibly money too.
Getting Snake just as a trophy is pretty much a giant screw you to the public, one that Sakurai would much rather just bat a blind eye to than completely screw with endlessly (also seeing how he and Kojima are still friends it's likely a decision that wouldn't make ties between Konami and Nintendo any better).

 

[Weeman]

ZUBATS (Pokémon) to get the satisfaction of beating them.
Also Pigmasks (Mother 3)
and Revenants (Fire Emblem)

 

[Oracle_Summon]

ZUBATS (Pokémon) to get the satisfaction of beating them.
Also Pigmasks (Mother 3)
and Revenants (Fire Emblem)

Zubats would be awesome in Smash Run.

 

[Morbi]

I'd like to see the M32 Scout, M72 Unit and Offensive Hover Unit Mechon be Smash Run enemies. They'd be excellent additions and fearsome foes for the fighters. We've already got Pooka, Mettaurs and Motobugs from the Third Party franchises, but I really am curious what we'll see from other games. Maybe ROB enemies will return? Perhaps more SSE enemies? The latter seems very likely at this point with Smash Run being SSE combined with City Trial for the rogue's gallery of minor foes. (And nonsense Pokemon.)

As for other enemies, I'd prefer to see characters like Grima and Metal Face be bosses. Especially Metal Face.

Well, Third Party Contracts do kind of make it so he's guaranteed to be playable. He's in or he's out. Nintendo would guarantee just having it as a trophy is a waste of contracting time and possibly money too.
Getting Snake just as a trophy is pretty much a giant screw you to the public, one that Sakurai would much rather just bat a blind eye to than completely screw with endlessly (also seeing how he and Kojima are still friends it's likely a decision that wouldn't make ties between Konami and Nintendo any better).

Do you actually have the contract on hand? Or perhaps you have statements from both parties that indicate that they would only enter into a contract regarding playable characters and nothing more? I would like a link to this baseless claim, if it would not cause you any trouble. Unless you are alluding to our minimal precedent.

 

[Spinosaurus]

As for other enemies, I'd prefer to see characters like Grima and Metal Face be bosses. Especially Metal Face.

These and:

-Eggman
-Bowser Jr.
-Gohma
-Tiki Tong

as bosses would be really cool.

Do you actually have the contract on hand? Or perhaps you have statements from both parties that indicate that they would only enter into a contract regarding playable characters and nothing more? I would like a link to this baseless claim, if it would not cause you any trouble. Unless you are alluding to our minimal precedent.

Why does this bother you so much?

 

[Morbi]

Honestly while it's true that stating the "Snake is either playable or not in the game" thing as a fact is indeed fallacious, it's not a baseless assumption either. While we might not know the exact process of obtaining Snake's right to use him in the game, we do know that Konami is a lucrative company that regardless of whatever use Sakurai has for Snake, they wouldn't simply give him for free, and from the context of Sakurai's quote we can assume that the process of getting the rights isn't as simple as asking to a friend to let you use his phone.
So i think that it is a safe assumption to believe that Sakurai wouldn't get the rights of a franchise just to use one character as a trophy. With that said i agree that people were quick to misenterpret your comment and i apologize if this sounded offensive in any way, since i do not have intentions of discrediting your comments.

I apologize, I did not see this comment before posting the earlier comment. You are correct, that is an oversight on my part. The assumption is not necessarily baseless. I feel as though many are over-estimating the contracting and the fees regarding the process though. It is not as tedious of a process as we presume. Sakurai alludes to the difficulty in a context pertaining to the implementation of the character (as he does not actually have the right to interpret the character unless he is exclusively granted that privilege), not the acquiring the rights aspect (which is as simple as filing and negotiating). In fact, based on my knowledge of contract law, he is referring more so to the parties involved than the process. As Snake was actualized once before, you do not have to repeat the same exact process. Just to clarify.

 

[Diddy Kong]

-Bokoblins (fighter variation and archer variation) Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword
-Dry Bones (Mario)
-Magikoopa (Mario)
-Klap Traps (Donkey Kong Country)
-Gnawty (Donkey Kong Country)
-Mugly (Donkey Kong Country Returns)
-Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy (Yoshi´s Island)
-Spear Shu Guys, complete with their dancing (Yoshi´s Island)
-Klobber (Donkey Kong Country 2)
-Zinger (Donkey Kong Country 2 variant plz)
-Wolfos (Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time)
-Moblin (Legend of Zelda Wind Waker)
-Chu Chu (Legend of Zelda Wind Waker)
-General (Fire Emblem)
-Paladin (Fire Emblem)
-Halberdier (Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn)
-Dragon Laguz (Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn)
-Pegasus Knight (Fire Emblem)
-Dragon Knight (Fire Emblem)
-Druid (Fire Emblem)
-Zubat (Pokémon)
-Golbat (Pokémon)
-Kadabra (Pokémon)
-Smeargle (Pokémon)
-Rhyperior (Pokémon)
-Sharpclaw Tribe (StarFox Adventures)
-New Age Retro Hippie (EarthBound)
-ANYTHING from EarthBound or Mother 3 in general
-Other F-Zero racers fighting as Ganondorf Captain Falcon clones

 

[Spinosaurus]

F-Zero enemies should be miniature vehicles of other drivers because why not

I got nothing for Punch Out.

 

[Weeman]

-Other F-Zero racers fighting as Ganondorf Captain Falcon clones

This reminds me that Black Shadow taking Ganondorf's moveset would make so much sense

F-Zero enemies should be miniature vehicles of other drivers because why not

I got nothing for Punch Out.

Glass Joe hordes

 

[Deleted member]

F-Zero enemies should be miniature vehicles of other drivers because why not

I got nothing for Punch Out.

Flying boxing gloves and chocolate bars.

 

[*The Sensus Crustulum*]

Smash Run Enemies.

http://smashboards.com/threads/design-smash-run-enemies.352178/

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

http://smashboards.com/threads/design-smash-run-enemies.352178/

Mods weren't stopping it, so I went with it.

Anyhow, what next? Anything we haven't beaten to death already?

 

[M23-X0]

ZUBATS (Pokémon) to get the satisfaction of beating them.
Also Pigmasks (Mother 3)
and Revenants (Fire Emblem)

"There are three infinite things in the world :
• the universe
• human stupidity
• the number of zubat in dark caves"
- Albert Einstein

 

[Pacack]

"There are three infinite things in the world :
• the universe
• human stupidity
• the number of zubat in dark caves"
- Albert Einstein

"And I'm not sure about the universe."

 

[Gunla]

http://smashboards.com/threads/design-smash-run-enemies.352178/

Well, it's not really designing the enemies, but it's saying: who do we want and who do we think would be enemies? Not really much how they will work, but simply discussing the chances of what appearing in Smash Run as an enemy is topical.

And I do think we're bound to see more stage bosses of the sort.
Dark Emperor (?) and Yellow Devil are our firsts, but what else can we see?

I'd say that Metal Face could work (Sword Valley stage sounds excellent), perhaps Shadow Dragon on the Colosseum, a Pokemon stage could have some big boss Pokemon (akin to Spear Pillar but hittable), and maybe the Plasm Wraith from Pikmin 3 on the Garden of Hope stage. Just some little instances where it might work

 

[Rockaphin]

Any characters that you all want to see nerfed other than Meta Knight?
Personally, I think Marth needs a nerf.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Remmeber this museum thing

We have a rumor picture
239457"]

Look at the box next too the miis and under villager

Reveal for this japan event perhaps?

(Ps its from gonintendo.com)

 

[Miffa]

Remmeber this museum thing

We have a rumor picture
239457"]

Look at the box next too the miis and under villager

Reveal for this japan event perhaps?

(Ps its from gonintendo.com)

who is extremely popular in Japan that could be revealed?

 

[BluePikmin11]

who is extremely popular in Japan that could be revealed?

Hint: it's one of the swordsmen in your signature.

 

[Miffa]

Hint: it's one of the swordsmen in your signature.

Ah ok i will admit i do not know Japan Popularity charts at all.