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Explain to me why Marth of all characters needed a nerf. He was never broken and brain-dead.
I knew if I said anything about Marth people would go crazy. Also, tag me, or at least reply to me so I'll get your notification.

He's a quick character that has pretty good power with ridiculous range. He seems to be one of the most balanced characters in the game that excels in almost everything. He has a great edge guarding game as well as a good shield breaking move, which is his D-Tilt. The only moves that have notable lag are his smash attacks. His aerials have very little lag and have great range which is very difficult to deal with.
And that's not even mentioning RCO, which is a blatant glitch that doubles his landing lag from up b which was either missed by the team or blatantly kept in, making his recovery game go from decent, but mediocre, to ridiculously punishable.
Marth is not the only character with this problem. Many characters have to deal with this issue. Charizard's is very noticeable as well.

Melee Marth was a nightmare, Brawl Marth was still a nightmare but lesser of a degree. I still think Marth needs some nerfs, but I never said to make him trash as everyone seems to think that I said for some strange reason.
 
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So, I heard from the facebook page, that there is rumors a character might be revealed tomorrow, It seems like you guys are talking about it. Why are people expecting a character tomorrow if I may ask?
Not gonna get my hopes up, but what's this rumor supposed to be about? Nintendo Direct or something?
 
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Let's see, on one hand, we've got a trio that's been part of the Genmatsu leak that has been accurate thus far, and on the other, we have a character with absolutely nothing going for her.

....aside from the fact that there's no guarantee we're getting a newcomer, which of the two would be most likely to be shown off if there was?
That's right, Chorus Kids.
 

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Marth is not the only character with this problem. Many characters have to deal with this issue. Charizard's is very noticeable as well.

Melee Marth was a nightmare, Brawl Marth was still a nightmare but lesser of a degree. I still think Marth needs some nerfs, but I never said to make him trash as everyone seems to think that I said.
My apologies. I didn't mean to accuse you of that. I probably overreacted as a Marth main. I, too, agree that Marth still needed some more nerfs. If he was about ZSS level with matchups, he'd be good. I'm just a bit peeved that they nerfed him so much. Forgive me for the way I worded that.
 

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Chorus Kids and Shulk would be likely reveals I suppose.

But sadly we're probably not getting anything. MAYBE a veteran.
Mewtwo would be incredible. Game & Watch has to be revealed soon enough, though.
 

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I wouldn't count on it. According to @ Venus of the Desert Bloom Venus of the Desert Bloom , those fliers have been given out as a preorder bonus for over a week now, so it's not special to the event. On top of that, the box just says "There are still participating characters that have yet to be revealed," which sounds more like it's just a reminder that this is not the full roster rather then a tease for this particular event.

So I would be skeptical of any character announcement.
That flier has nothing to so with the event. It doesn't even mention the event in the flier. I got a free copy if it for preordering the 3DS last week. And has Arcanir said, the caption under the question mark reads "There are characters that have yet to be revealed."

Again, this flier has no bearing on a character reveal tomorrow.
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If we were going to get an official Game & Watch reveal before release we would have gotten it now I'm sure. He's unlockable, and therefore won't get a page before the game is out.
 
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So...we're still assuming that every character we've seen is a starter? Ok, then....
 

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So...we're still assuming that every character we've seen is a starter? Ok, then....
*shrugs* There are very few characters that wouldn't make sense as starters. The only two revealed that wouldn't make sense as starters are Luigi and Toon Link (not counting third-party characters).
 
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I still have this nagging feeling that we'll see everyone before release.

If we get a few characters in July and August, plus a possible Smash Direct, we'll probably have enough time to see everyone.
Given that the roster is 48 characters.
 

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Tomorrow should be interesting.

I mean come on, that box with a question mark is a sure fire implication for a newcomer. It's within the row of newcomers and the multiple question marks are not meant for Random, as there is also no point in showing a random Icon for this. I don't understand the doubts, it seems pretty obvious. Newcomer reveals in America, now we get one in Japan. It makes sense.

Edit: I didn't realize it was fake. Oh well.
 
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I still have this nagging feeling that we'll see everyone before release.

If we get a few characters in July and August, plus a possible Smash Direct, we'll probably have enough time to see everyone.
Given that the roster is 48 characters.
Now that we know Japan is getting the game before us, I really hope we do see everyone before release. I despised having the Brawl roster leaked to us.
 

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Okay, about that flier: maybe it is unrelated to the event, which means no character tomorrow. But, I'm near certain about the image within the square. I can't think of a way around it, and I don't buy the glass reflection story. It just looks way too precise to me. Now, if there was a photo to compare the one we have to, that would make things much easier. For a flier that's been distributed to the public for over a week, I'm surprised I'm having such trouble finding one picture.

Edit: Okay, I found one. Yeah, there isn't anything in the box. Phooey
 
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May as well post my new roster here.
Gematsu + Mewtwo Roster.png

Mii Fighters are toggled on the CSS by turning customization on and off. When on, Miis show up. When off, the Random slot shows up.
The guys at Treehouse said something about Miis having some sort of special slot, so I figure this is possible.
 

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So, I heard from the facebook page, that there is rumors a character might be revealed tomorrow, It seems like you guys are talking about it. Why are people expecting a character tomorrow if I may ask?
This


Why would there be a question mark one.

I mean why would a random button in a advertizement.

(Not accually randomly select a character button.)
 
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This


Why would there be a question mark one.

I mean why would a random button in a advertizement.

(Not accually randomly select a character button.)
It has already been said that the ? slot emphasizes the fact that this is not the final roster, they put it in there to make everyone know that these are not all the characters.
 
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It has already been said that the ? slot emphasizes the fact that this is not the final roster, they put it in there to make everyone know that these are not all the characters.
Agree i think thats what i means

But definatly still a hint for a reveal at the event.

If no reveal it means that it was just to say more characters to come.
 

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I do not personally see anything saturday maybe a vet returning but that is it being so soon after E3 it would be had to have another new commer annonced at a japanese only event

the only newcommer I can see being announced is Shulk because Shulk is the eastern most requested character to hype them up as we get closer to their release date
 

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Agree i think thats what i means

But definatly still a hint for a reveal at the event.

If no reveal it means that it was just to say more characters to come.
No because this has nothing to do with today's event, it's a flyer they give to people who preorder the 3ds version in Japan.
 

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like I said at best I see a vet being announced their Extremely wishful thinking on my part Shulk because I'm a big fan of him and Xenoblades but I think at most we will get a vet announced
 

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Honestly, does anyone on here even read and soak in what other people have said? Jesus.
Sheesh, what's with you people? Maybe some of us found this pic and didn't feel like traveling through pages of posts and wanted to share what they saw. There's nothing wrong with that and being a complete and total snob just shows what kind of person you are.
 

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Sheesh, what's with you people? Maybe some of us found this pic and didn't feel like traveling through pages of posts and wanted to share what they saw. There's nothing wrong with that and being a complete and total snob just shows what kind of person you are.
I literally just posted the "deconfirmation" of this possible vet posts above on this very page. People have posted on other threads, on this VERY page, about how this event has nothing to do with the flier.

And actually, not paying attention to what other people have to say show that you clearly have no respect for anyone else's opinions but your own. So I'm frankly done with you, and would hope you just drop this little argument.
 

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I literally just posted the "deconfirmation" of this possible vet posts above on this very page. People have posted on other threads, on this VERY page, about how this event has nothing to do with the flier.

And actually, not paying attention to what other people have to say show that you clearly have no respect for anyone else's opinions but your own. So I'm frankly done with you, and would hope you just drop this little argument.
Sheesh, what's with you people? Maybe some of us found this pic and didn't feel like traveling through pages of posts and wanted to share what they saw. There's nothing wrong with that and being a complete and total snob just shows what kind of person you are.
Both of you, just stop! I'm not a moderator, but this is getting out of hand
 
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Yeah let's cool it people. The flier by no means doesn't confirm or deconfirm a character reveal. However, it's not impossible that we won't get a character reveal. Just don't look at this flier as a way to support a character reveal today as it has nothing to do with it
 
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Let's just not be too quick to draw assumptions. Clearly, the question mark box means nothing in terms of a character reveal. Don't get me wrong, it is still possible, but I doubt the flier means anything in regards to there being some kind of reveal. Which is what has been said multiple times in this thread and the like, but I guess I shall digress.
 

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I went back to my flier and found something interesting. The box with the question mark is just gray with black dots. However, the flier at the Hobby World event has some sort of pattern. It could be a lens flare or something as my flier gives off a flare when exposed to a light. Interesting

Well, we will know in the next few hours or so.
 
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I doubt we will get a new one since we always got one on directs only newcomer as I said before I could see is Shulk to please the eastern crowd since Shulk is the most requested character for smash 4
 
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I doubt we will get a new one since we always got one on directs only newcomer as I said before I could see is Shulk to please the eastern crowd since Shulk is the most requested character for smash 4
Um... I know Shulk is a popular request, but last I checked, he's not the most requested character for Smash 4.
 
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