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So I just went to the game store where I got my flier and my pre-order. I asked if they have anymore fliers and they showed me an entire case of them on display free for the taking. I asked if they were just put out out today and they said they have been out since a week and a half ago. I must have missed them previously.
 
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My apologies. I didn't mean to accuse you of that. I probably overreacted as a Marth main. I, too, agree that Marth still needed some more nerfs. If he was about ZSS level with matchups, he'd be good. I'm just a bit peeved that they nerfed him so much. Forgive me for the way I worded that.
I understand. I main Pokémon Trainer and Mario who both have a serious disadvantage against Marth or any high tier character. I'd rather have weaker characters receive buffs before stronger characters receive nerfs. I hate seeing my favorite characters near the bottom of the tier list and never used in tournaments. I think Marth only has one to two minor disadvantaged match-ups.
I apologize for coming off a little :shaker:
 

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I understand. I main Pokémon Trainer and Mario who both have a serious disadvantage against Marth or any high tier character. I'd rather have weaker characters receive buffs before stronger characters receive nerfs. I hate seeing my favorite characters near the bottom of the tier list and never used in tournaments. I think Marth only has one to two minor disadvantaged match-ups.
I apologize for coming off a little :shaker:
I know how you feel. Zelda got nerfed in this game, according to some so far. Still, it's not released yet, so I'm hoping they won't make her worse.
 

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I know how you feel. Zelda got nerfed in this game, according to some so far. Still, it's not released yet, so I'm hoping they won't make her worse.
Zelda? Nerfed? . . . I thought balancing was top priority this time, there went that.
Seriously, if Zelda is once again considered a "poor" character, I'll have to flip something. Like you said though, the game is still in development but the release date is approaching.
 

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I understand. I main Pokémon Trainer and Mario who both have a serious disadvantage against Marth or any high tier character. I'd rather have weaker characters receive buffs before stronger characters receive nerfs. I hate seeing my favorite characters near the bottom of the tier list and never used in tournaments. I think Marth only has one to two minor disadvantaged match-ups.
I apologize for coming off a little :shaker:
Most Brawl characters need buffs. Ideally, it would be somewhat like P:M where every character has the kind of tools that "top tiers" do, and thus are all viable. Obviously, some moves need to be adjusted in strength, but neutering a character like they seem to have done with Marth by removing their basic strengths is not how balancing should be done. Bringing down the characters that feel fun and useable to make the lower tiers viable just makes the game less fun in the end, imo.

Does that make any sense? I may not be wording it as eloquently as I'd like, but I hope I got my policy on that across.
 
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I know how you feel. Zelda got nerfed in this game, according to some so far. Still, it's not released yet, so I'm hoping they won't make her worse.
Zelda was not nerfed... Only one of her moves were merged, and she had minute buffs in a lot of her other moves. She hasent been seriously buffed yet but she has been slightly buffed. Better than brawl.
 
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Zelda was not nerfed... Only one of her moves were merged, and she had minute buffs in a lot of her other moves. She hasent been seriously buffed yet but she has been slightly buffed. Better than brawl.
I understand that the aerial game in general is worse in SSB4 atm. If that's true, then Zelda's best (best doesn't mean good) tools have been (probably unintentionally) nerfed.
 
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Most Brawl characters need buffs. Ideally, it would be somewhat like P:M where every character has the kind of tools that "top tiers" do, and thus are all viable. Obviously, some moves need to be adjusted in strength, but neutering a character like they seem to have done with Marth by removing their basic strengths is not how balancing should be done. Bringing down the characters that feel fun and useable to make the lower tiers viable just makes the game less fun in the end, imo.

Does that make any sense? I may not be wording it as eloquently as I'd like, but I hope I got my policy on that across.
Yes I understand. I agree as well. I would hate to main a viable character just for them to nerf the crap out of them in the next game. Hopefully with a bigger team, they can find a good balance between nerfing characters and buffing characters.

Honestly though, I have my doubts that this will happen. But hey, that's just me.
 

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I understand that the aerial game in general is worse in SSB4 atm. If that's true, then Zelda's best (best doesn't mean good) tools have been (probably unintentionally) nerfed.
Her aerial game felt fine or even better to me when I used her... I haven't actually heard many complaints at all about her aerial game except for one move.
 

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Yes I understand. I agree as well. I would hate to main a viable character just for them to nerf the crap out of them in the next game. Hopefully with a bigger team, they can find a good balance between nerfing characters and buffing characters.

Honestly though, I have my doubts that this will happen. But hey, that's just me.
I hope that they'll at least be able to do it with patches. But I'm not confident either.

I'm just hoping Pac-Man's not garbage. That'll break my heart since I can't just go back to a game where he was better like I can with Marth ;-:
 
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I hope that they'll at least be able to do it with patches. But I'm not confident either.

I'm just hoping Pac-Man's not garbage. That'll break my heart since I can't just go back to a game where he was better like I can with Marth ;-:
I'm rooting for Villager, but I have no idea where he'll rank. Some say he's too gimmicky, some say he has lots of potential.
Pac-Man looks like a very fun character with an interesting moveset.

I've been playing Melee a bit more recently. Mario was much better in that game than Brawl. PM Mario is really good too.
Now if Charizard becomes viable, I think I'll be able to properly main a character and have a secondary rather than playing as most of the roster due to my favorites being awful.
 
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I'm just hoping Pac-Man's not garbage. That'll break my heart since I can't just go back to a game where he was better like I can with Marth ;-:
You and me both, I want to add Pac-Man to my mains like no tomorrow. Though I suppose it doesn't matter if he's terrible or not, since I mained Link... Mostly just worried on the moveset and such. I'm still so confused as to why he has a random fire hydrant from Pac-Land instead of the Rev Roll or Butt Bounce or anything.
 
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If we're going to talk about how good characters are, I'm in the boat for just wanting my favorites to not suck.*looks at avatar* I mean if I'm playing with items I'll pick anyone I feel like, but if I'm playing even semi-competitively(no items,non gimmick stage, but maybe four players, basically for glory) then not a chance. I would love to use Sonic in Brawl competitively, but I just can't do that. Granted, if I am playing competitively, I'm playing project m, but I digress. Just getting a mod like project m for the Wii U version is not something I expect for several years if at all, so I'd rather just have everyone be at least pretty good.
 

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You and me both, I want to add Pac-Man to my mains like no tomorrow. Though I suppose it doesn't matter if he's terrible or not, since I mained Link... Mostly just worried on the moveset and such. I'm still so confused as to why he has a random fire hydrant from Pac-Land instead of the Rev Roll or Butt Bounce or anything.
Pacman looks odd to me I'll give him a chance but I prefer heavy hitting characters like dedede and ganon so I'm not sure if he'll fit my style
 

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I use all the characters, though I generally favor quicker ones, but Dedede also happens to be one of my mains. Ganondorf would also be a main if he wasn't a clone of someone I already main... Snake is also heavy and he's a main I play as a lot.

I mostly pick characters because I like those characters along with their movesets, I love TLoZ and Link's moveset is faithful, so I main him. Ganondorf is my favorite Nintendo Villain, but he doesn't do anything that he's supposed to in Smash, so I don't main him.
 
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Pacman looks odd to me I'll give him a chance but I prefer heavy hitting characters like dedede and ganon so I'm not sure if he'll fit my style
It's not a bad thing to favor certain styles over others. Personally, I generally lean towards the opposite of what you do. Speedier, combo heavy characters with more movement options. As much as I love the characters, I can't use Dedede, Bowser, etc. In terms of character choosing, it's not just based on who's better, other wise we would get the rock paper scissors effect and everyone would use the same three characters. I know this whole comment is probably unnecessary and you probably already know this, but I'm gonna post it anyways.:p
 

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I use all the characters, though I generally favor quicker ones, but Dedede also happens to be one of my mains. Ganondorf would also be a main if he wasn't a clone of someone I already main... Snake is also heavy and he's a main I play as a lot.

I mostly pick characters because I like those characters along with their movesets, I love TLoZ and Link's moveset is faithful, so I main him. Ganondorf is my favorite Nintendo Villain, but he doesn't do anything that he's supposed to in Smash, so I don't main him.
I can agree to that as someone who uses mains like ganon and dedede being two of my favorite villains I agree ganon needs a revamp badly like maybe his b or side b can be the energy ball from OOT for example just some stuff to make him feel like the evil warlock he is

It's not a bad thing to favor certain styles over others. Personally, I generally lean towards the opposite of what you do. Speedier, combo heavy characters with more movement options. As much as I love the characters, I can't use Dedede, Bowser, etc. In terms of character choosing, it's not just based on who's better, other wise we would get the rock paper scissors effect and everyone would use the same three characters. I know this whole comment is probably unnecessary and you probably already know this, but I'm gonna post it anyways.:p
yeah that is true I prefer being a character that hits hard then a charcter that hits quick my logic is why hit 3-4 times for say 12 damage when you can hit once for 15-20 damage
 
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Why would there be a question mark one.

I mean why would a random button in a advertizement.

(Not accually randomly select a character button.)

Why is there 6 question marks on the box ? it's kinda weird putting that much question marks, usually 3 are sufficient...is it indication of how many newcomers are coming, or is it indication of how many characters left to be revealed.
 

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Why is there 6 question marks on the box ? it's kinda weird putting that much question marks, usually 3 are sufficient...is it indication of how many newcomers are coming, or is it indication of how many characters left to be revealed.
Could just be the hidden character's name.
 

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only two character with 6 letters in them that comes to mind is Mewtwo and Ridely sadly Shulk is only 5 if that's the case :(
 
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Why is there 6 question marks on the box ? it's kinda weird putting that much question marks, usually 3 are sufficient...is it indication of how many newcomers are coming, or is it indication of how many characters left to be revealed.
I know I'm REALLY grasping for straws on this one, but according to this leak, we have 4 more newcomers plus the remaining brawl vets excluding Snake and that would be our final roster. This leak also sites the gematsu leak is true. However, I find it VERY hard to believe squirtle and ivysaur would be back in the initial roster, so if we take them out, we have six newcomers. However, according to roster size given (52) the numbers don't add up so I'm adding Mewtwo here. Take this with the tiniest grain of salt in the world(one I don't even believe myself), but it's just a theory... A Game Theory!
 

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I mained Sonic as much as I could, but there's absolutely NOTHING I can do against an Olimar who knows what he's doing.

At this point, I put up much bigger fights with ROB, P.T. and even Samus.

But I'm throwing all my past mains out the window to make way for Little Mac and Megaman. (Ok, and Sonic maybe, if I need a 3rd). Just hoping Sonic's better this time.
 
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I mained Sonic as much as I could, but there's absolutely NOTHING I can do against an Olimar who knows what he's doing.

At this point, I put up much bigger fights with ROB, P.T. and even Samus.

But I'm throwing all my past mains out the window to make way for Little Mac and Megaman. (Ok, and Sonic maybe, if I need a 3rd). Just hoping Sonic's better this time.
from what I seen in the demo he seems to have got a overall buff but his final got nerfed to hell
 

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I know I'm REALLY grasping for straws on this one, but according to this leak, we have 4 more newcomers plus the remaining brawl vets excluding Snake and that would be our final roster. This leak also sites the gematsu leak is true. However, I find it VERY hard to believe squirtle and ivysaur would be back in the initial roster, so if we take them out, we have six newcomers. However, according to roster size given (52) the numbers don't add up so I'm adding Mewtwo here. Take this with the tiniest grain of salt in the world(one I don't even believe myself), but it's just a theory... A Game Theory!
Fake as hell.
 

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from what I seen in the demo he seems to have got a overall buff but his final got nerfed to hell
Ah well, never cared much about his Final Smash. Should've abused it more in the very few Free For All tourneys that happened.

More killpower is all I ask for. Nothing else. Would've preferred his Homing Attack to be straight, but I think I'll manage.
 

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I mained Sonic as much as I could, but there's absolutely NOTHING I can do against an Olimar who knows what he's doing.

At this point, I put up much bigger fights with ROB, P.T. and even Samus.

But I'm throwing all my past mains out the window to make way for Little Mac and Megaman. (Ok, and Sonic maybe, if I need a 3rd). Just hoping Sonic's better this time.
I was able to devastate with Olimar, depending on who I fought. I just hope I can salvage whatever is left of him now, the demo didn't give me much...

I certainly won't throw away my mains any time soon, as long as Snake returns everything should be dandy.
:ness2::gw::4olimar::4pacman::metaknight::kirby2::dedede::snake::4link::falcon:
This is what my planned mains look like with only the confirmed newcomers and assumed returning veterans. Only Pac-Man added..
Hopefully a certain King and a Samurai can fix things up for me...
 

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I was able to devastate with Olimar, depending on who I fought. I just hope I can salvage whatever is left of him now, the demo didn't give me much...

I certainly won't throw away my mains any time soon, as long as Snake returns everything should be dandy.
:ness2::gw::4olimar::4pacman::metaknight::kirby2::dedede::snake::4link::falcon:
This is what my planned mains look like with only the confirmed newcomers and assumed returning veterans. Only Pac-Man added..
Hopefully a certain King and a Samurai can fix things up for me...
oh you mean King Hippo right
 

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oh you mean King Hippo right

*Hopefully this gif fits within the rules, as it does pertain to the actual character I was referring to...

I'm not a fan of Punch-Out or Little Mac, so no.

I would certainly main the characters that I've been hoping for, probably adding DK and Diddy as well as Samus and Pit.

Possibly Palutena if she turns out fun. I'm sorry Viridi.
 
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little mac seems the most fun so far to me personally out of the
newcomers but as I said Shulk please I would be so happy
 

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Isn't Marth's Japanese name Mars? If so, that would discredit this thing entirely.
As I understand, Mars is an alternate translation of his japanese name 'Marusu' which was used for one OVA. I'm not a japanese speaker, just repeating what I read on the FE wiki.

Edit: Also, the flier is legit. Venus received one for preordering the game.
 
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