Character Discussion Thread

[TitanTeaTime]

I'd be very disappointed if we only got 3 more. I mean, I like the choices so far (I wasn't big on at first but then I saw her trailer) but that would mean 12 characters (14 if you count the miis as 3 characters, but they can't always be used so...). Meanwhile, Melee introduced 14 and Brawl introduced 19 (17 if the Pokemon Trainer is 1 character) - I'm expecting something between those amounts. (Oh yeah, and we'll likely get quite a few unlockable characters too)

 

[Louie G.]

Sakurai said not to expect as many newcomers as in the past, even using 50 characters as a reference point.
Miis do count as 3 seperate characters, however they'll likely only take up one slot. So that's a total of 14 newcomers.
If we bring back everyone from Brawl minus Snake, Squirt, Ivy, and Lucas, and add Mewtwo in there, that's 36 veterans.
36 + 14 = 50.

I feel like a broken record here, I say this every day.
But 48 slots and 50 characters is a perfect number.

 

[Arcanir]

For my future mains, I'm currently looking at these characters:

I also want to try out these five when the game comes out:

 

[Twin Shot]

I play as everyone. I would always play with the same character until I won then would move on to next in line on the roster.
SSBWU/3DS will be the same.

I also really dislike cuts. Wish that everyone in all the previous games was back.
I would buy a Super Smash Brothers "Complete" game in a heartbeat. One that just Compiles all of the old stages, characters, items and music.

 

[BluePikmin11]

My future mains SSB4 mains will probably be the same as Brawl's:
As for newcomers, I'm going to try to main them for the sake of trolling people.

 

[Weeman]

Sakurai said not to expect as many newcomers as in the past, even using 50 characters as a reference point.
Miis do count as 3 seperate characters, however they'll likely only take up one slot. So that's a total of 14 newcomers.
If we bring back everyone from Brawl minus Snake, Squirt, Ivy, and Lucas, and add Mewtwo in there, that's 36 veterans.
36 + 14 = 50.

I feel like a broken record here, I say this every day.
But 48 slots and 50 characters is a perfect number.

So the RosalinaX leak was right?

 

[Deleted member]

Sakurai said not to expect as many newcomers as in the past, even using 50 characters as a reference point.
Miis do count as 3 seperate characters, however they'll likely only take up one slot. So that's a total of 14 newcomers.
If we bring back everyone from Brawl minus Snake, Squirt, Ivy, and Lucas, and add Mewtwo in there, that's 36 veterans.
36 + 14 = 50.

I feel like a broken record here, I say this every day.
But 48 slots and 50 characters is a perfect number.

I can understand that, but at the same time that would mean we already know every newcomer.That would mean there aren't evn any secret newcomers, and I find that hard believe. I can't help but feel Sakurai meant around 50 characters, so he could go above or below. And there is of course also DLC if that's a thing that happens. I'm not saying you're wrong, but it would be odd.

 

[Weeman]

I can understand that, but at the same time that would mean we already know every newcomer.That would mean there aren't evn any secret newcomers, and I find that hard believe. I can't help but feel Sakurai meant around 50 characters, so he could go above or below. And there is of course also DLC if that's a thing that happens. I'm not saying you're wrong, but it would be odd.

Well Chrom, Shulk, and the Chorus men could be secret.

 

[Deleted member]

Well Chrom, Shulk, and the Chorus men could be secret.

Yes, but Luoie G. said that we would have 14 newcomers period, which is what we already have, leaving no room for those three. If that theory is false, this would be best case scenario.(assuming they aren't announce before hand)

 

[Weeman]

Yes, but Luoie G. said that we would have 14 newcomers period, which is what we already have, leaving no room for those three. If that theory is false, this would be best case scenario.(assuming they aren't announce before hand)

No, we have 11 newcomers so far (counting the miis as separate), so adding those three would make 14 newcomers.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Well Chrom, Shulk, and the Chorus men could be secret.

I find that unlikely since all three are pretty popular in certain aspects to be starter material.

 

[Deleted member]

No, we have 11 newcomers so far (counting the miis as separate), so adding those three would make 14 newcomers.

But they each have completely unique movesets. Each Mii would have to be counted as their own character as were Charizard, Squirtle, and Ivysaur. Even if they aren't available in online, and they might not be their own specific character, but they must be counted in roster size.

 

[Phaazoid]

I find that unlikely since all three are pretty popular in certain aspects to be starter material.

They are all have hidden character aspects too

Chrom is the third FE character, with 2 already revealed
Shulk... Ok Shulk is mainly starter material, I agree
Chorus Men are more wtf material, like G&W and ROB, so they could be hidden. They also aren't promoting a new game, like shulk would be. (I know wii fit is wtf and was starter, but I'm just saying elements, no guaranteed)

 

[Weeman]

But they each have completely unique movesets. Each Mii would have to be counted as their own character as were Charizard, Squirtle, and Ivysaur. Even if they aren't available in online, and they might not be their own specific character, but they must be counted in roster size.

That's what i just did. Counting the miis as THREE characters we have 11 newcomers so far, add those remaining three to complete the Gematsu leak and we have 14 newcomers.

 

[Deleted member]

That's what i just did. Counting the miis as THREE characters we have 11 newcomers so far, add those remaining three to complete the Gematsu leak and we have 14 newcomers.

Whoops, I'm sorry, major brainfart, I stupid, I shut up now.

 

[Weeman]

I find that unlikely since all three are pretty popular in certain aspects to be starter material.

Well we already have 2 Fire Emblem characters revealed so Chrom could be hidden, Shulk could be treated like Marth in Melee along with his stage and music tracks being hidden and the Chorus kids would be like the weird hidden character similar to Mr. game and watch in Melee.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Well we already have 2 Fire Emblem characters revealed so Chrom could be hidden, Shulk could be treated like Marth in Melee along with his stage and music tracks being hidden and the Chorus kids would be like the weird hidden character similar to Mr. game and watch in Melee.

Ike would be the hidden one for me since his game is more out-dated than Marth's.
Except Marth was Japan-only at the time of Melee, now that Xenoblade is released internationally, I see him being more of a starter.
And we all said that to being the Game&Watch character, that logic never held to me at all, they will probably be starter.

 

[Weeman]

Ike would be the hidden one for me since his game is more out-dated than Marth's.
Except Marth was Japan-only at the time of Melee, now that Xenoblade is released internationally, I see him being more of a starter.
And we all said that to being the Game&Watch character, that logic never held to me at all, they will probably be starter.

Well we might as well wait, for all we now we could even not even have unlockable newcomers this time around.

 

[Genexican]

Hey Gematsu Leak!

We're getting at least three.

I'm not really one to trust leaks... I'll believe what I see, not what others predict. And considering fake character images are pretty easy to make, there's not much proof that can back up the Gematsu Leak other than "most stuff he predicted kinda came true". If a character I like ends up being playable, then that's good! If not, then oh well, there's always next game. At this point, I'm just going to sit back, get nice and comfortable, and see what Sakurai gives us. After all, seeing is believing.

 

[Weeman]

I'm not really one to trust leaks... I'll believe what I see, not what others predict. And considering fake character images are pretty easy to make, there's not much proof that can back up the Gematsu Leak other than "most stuff he predicted kinda came true". If a character I like ends up being playable, then that's good! If not, then oh well, there's always next game. At this point, I'm just going to sit back, get nice and comfortable, and see what Sakurai gives us. After all, seeing is believing.

So predicting 8 characters right so far, out of wich one of them was the Wii fit trainer is not much proof?, i mean if you don't want to believe it that's alright but you cannot deny the fact that it does have pretty convincing evidence so far.

 

[Phaazoid]

So predicting 8/11 characters right, out of wich one of them was the Wii fit trainer is not much proof?, i mean if you don't want to believe it that's alright but you cannot deny the fact that it does have pretty convincing evidence so far.

8/9 announced were predicted, (mii fighters was one prediction), 3 more to go.
Rosalina is the only outlier.

It's a fairly compelling leak. I'm not completely sold, but I am expecting it.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

I am so surprised that Ike is not one of them xD.

And you're surprised why? Ike isn't really someone I'm interested in that much anyway

I find that unlikely since all three are pretty popular in certain aspects to be starter material.

Unlikely? Uh...remember Mewtwo? He was popular, yet placed in unlockable. I'd rather have more unlockable newcomers than starting like how Melee did perfect.

 

[BluePikmin11]

And you're surprised why? Ike isn't really someone I'm interested in that much anyway

Unlikely? Uh...remember Mewtwo? He was popular, yet placed in unlockable. I'd rather have more unlockable newcomers than starting like how Melee did perfect.

Popularity in terms of requests don't really count IMO.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Popularity in terms of requests don't really count IMO.

Yet you're allowing characters to be starters instead of unlockables? Isn't the point of Smash is to have some popular, secret characters hidden so everyone can go OMGWTF*insert character name here*MADETHEROSTER!

Ike would be hidden? Uh yeah about that...he's been a starter while Marth has always been unlockable. I can see it either going that way again, or have both starters while Chrom unlockable.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Yet you're allowing characters to be starters instead of unlockables? Isn't the point of Smash is to have some popular, secret characters hidden so everyone can go OMGWTF*insert character name here*MADETHEROSTER!

Ike would be hidden? Uh yeah about that...he's been a starter while Marth has always been unlockable. I can see it either going that way again, or have both starters while Chrom unlockable.

No it's to have the biggest Nintendo all-stars fight each other. :L

 

[EbonyRubberWolf]

Sakurai said not to expect as many newcomers as in the past, even using 50 characters as a reference point.
Miis do count as 3 seperate characters, however they'll likely only take up one slot. So that's a total of 14 newcomers.
If we bring back everyone from Brawl minus Snake, Squirt, Ivy, and Lucas, and add Mewtwo in there, that's 36 veterans.
36 + 14 = 50.

I feel like a broken record here, I say this every day.
But 48 slots and 50 characters is a perfect number.

Careful with that. Remember, Random's on the CSS too, so that's one less CSS slot to go around, and I think I know who'd be knocked out for it. 47 + Random is just perfect for both consoles(12x4 on the Wii U, 8x6 on the 3DS).

I'm not really one to trust leaks... I'll believe what I see, not what others predict. And considering fake character images are pretty easy to make, there's not much proof that can back up the Gematsu Leak other than "most stuff he predicted kinda came true". If a character I like ends up being playable, then that's good! If not, then oh well, there's always next game. At this point, I'm just going to sit back, get nice and comfortable, and see what Sakurai gives us. After all, seeing is believing.

8/9 announced were predicted, (mii fighters was one prediction), 3 more to go.
Rosalina is the only outlier.

It's a fairly compelling leak. I'm not completely sold, but I am expecting it.

The Gematsu leak has been 100% so far, and it's been going for nearly a year and a half. It got WFT, and looks like it's right on Chorus Men too. None of its speculation has been wrong. It's legitimate, period.

Yet you're allowing characters to be starters instead of unlockables? Isn't the point of Smash is to have some popular, secret characters hidden so everyone can go OMGWTF*insert character name here*MADETHEROSTER!

Ike would be hidden? Uh yeah about that...he's been a starter while Marth has always been unlockable. I can see it either going that way again, or have both starters while Chrom unlockable.

No it's to have the biggest Nintendo all-stars fight each other. :L

Given Sakurai's distaste on how SSE's cutscenes were spoiled, it may turn out that he simply doesn't gate characters behind unlockable status. Stages, music, other bonuses sure, but not characters. It's not unheard of, more fighting games are moving away from unlockable fighters and one of the largest-roster entries, TTT2, has none. That's also from the same company that's working on Smash 4 now, Bandai-Namco.

 

[Phaazoid]

The Gematsu leak has been 100% so far, and it's been going for nearly a year and a half. It got WFT, and looks like it's right on Chorus Men too. None of its speculation has been wrong. It's legitimate, period.

I'm still a little skeptical, mainly because it claims we'll have characters as downloadable content. This doesn't mean I doubt the character guesses, though. I agree, getting 8 right, including multiple obscurities (wii fit, mii fighters) probably indicates inside information. I expected Chrom regardless, and at least acknowledged Shulk's chances, but now I expect them, as well as Chorus Men, who I hadn't even considered previously.

But just because all the stuff it guessed was right, it still doesn't mean it's 100% correct. People speculate that the info is a little dated, and that's why Rosalina wasn't predicted. If that's the case, Having info on things like DLC is a little odd, which usually isn't planned super early. Plus, it doesn't seem to me that Nintendo is willing to do dlc characters for smash bros.

I am hopeful, because that would be awesome, and the leak has been credible enough so far. However, regardless of whether or not it turns out to be 100% correct, in absence of absolute proof, I'll remain always a skeptic.

 

[Malcolm Belmont]

Sakurai said not to expect as many newcomers as in the past, even using 50 characters as a reference point.
Miis do count as 3 seperate characters, however they'll likely only take up one slot. So that's a total of 14 newcomers.
If we bring back everyone from Brawl minus Snake, Squirt, Ivy, and Lucas, and add Mewtwo in there, that's 36 veterans.
36 + 14 = 50.

I feel like a broken record here, I say this every day.
But 48 slots and 50 characters is a perfect number.

That is pretty much my prediction..50 characters are enough

 

[Genexican]

The Gematsu leak has been 100% so far, and it's been going for nearly a year and a half. It got WFT, and looks like it's right on Chorus Men too. None of its speculation has been wrong. It's legitimate, period.

Again, there could always be the chance that he's just been REEEEEEEALLY freaking lucky. I'd much rather make my own choices than blindly following someone elses.
I'm just going to sit back and watch who DOES get announced. I'll believe what I see, not what I'm told I might see.

 

[EbonyRubberWolf]

Again, there could always be the chance that he's just been REEEEEEEALLY freaking lucky. I'd much rather make my own choices than blindly following someone elses.
I'm just going to sit back and watch who DOES get announced. I'll believe what I see, not what I'm told I might see.

Fair enough, but at this point it's like discounting a sign announcing 'Right Turn Ahead' and deciding 'I'll turn when I see it.'

 

[☆Jazz☆]

And you're surprised why? Ike isn't really someone I'm interested in that much anyway

Because.....*sigh* nvm.

 

[Genexican]

Fair enough, but at this point it's like discounting a sign announcing 'Right Turn Ahead' and deciding 'I'll turn when I see it.'

Not really...?
Choices such as Palutena and Little Mac were pretty obvious, and saying "Pokemon from X and Y" is just to vague for my liking. It's kind of like one of those fortune tellers that either just state the obvious, or say what it is that you'd like to hear.

Hell, I'd rather not get my hopes up for a character to be reveled, then get presently surprised by their announcement, than get my hopes up for a reveal, only for it to never happen... If that Rhythm Heaven guy gets announced, then I'll happily admit that he was right all along. But until then, I'll stick to ma' guns.

 

[EbonyRubberWolf]

Not really...?
Choices such as Palutena and Little Mac were pretty obvious, and saying "Pokemon from X and Y" is just to vague for my liking. It's kind of like one of those fortune tellers that either just state the obvious, or say what it is that you'd like to hear.

Hell, I'd rather not get my hopes up for a character to be reveled, then get presently surprised by their announcement, than get my hopes up for a reveal, only for it to never happen... If that Rhythm Heaven guy gets announced, then I'll happily admit that he was right all along. But until then, I'll stick to ma' guns.

Understandable. Just beware of sneaky spirits...

 

[Pizzanigs]

Since my hope of King K. Rool has officially died, I myself am inclined to believe that Louie G. has the right idea.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Since my hope of King K. Rool has officially died, I myself am inclined to believe that Louie G. has the right idea.

Why?

 

[Zhadgon]

My thinking for DLC would be that after the 3DS game is launched there will be three more characters added to the WiiU, when the WiiU game is released they will be available for 3DS as free DLC so both versions could still have the same roster but the secret characters will be added to the main site and Nintendo Directs to still keep the hype for the Smash Bros WiiU version (my guess Mewtwo, Ridley and King K. Rool).

.n_n.

 

[TitanTeaTime]

Since my hope of King K. Rool has officially died, I myself am inclined to believe that Louie G. has the right idea.

Wait, what?
I don't believe anything has come up that hurts his chances. At all. Aside from a single rumor (that was proven fake, I'm not talking about the Sal leak as that has nothing to do with K. Rool) and arbitrary statements about character slots, there is pretty much nothing that hurts his chances. In fact, I'd say it's pretty strong since, you know, Kritters? Those guys have never appeared in a game without K Rool in it before and vice versa. I doubt this is the exception.

 

[Pizzanigs]

Wait, what?
I don't believe anything has come up that hurts his chances. At all. Aside from a single rumor (that was proven fake, I'm not talking about the Sal leak as that has nothing to do with K. Rool) and arbitrary statements about character slots, there is pretty much nothing that hurts his chances. In fact, I'd say it's pretty strong since, you know, Kritters? Those guys have never appeared in a game without K Rool in it before and vice versa. I doubt this is the exception.

With the Gematsu leak looking to be more and more plausible, and all this CSS discussion and speculation, I can't help but feel like I've been overestimating his chances.

 

[praline]

My thinking for DLC would be that after the 3DS game is launched there will be three more characters added to the WiiU, when the WiiU game is released they will be available for 3DS as free DLC so both versions could still have the same roster but the secret characters will be added to the main site and Nintendo Directs to still keep the hype for the Smash Bros WiiU version (my guess Mewtwo, Ridley and King K. Rool).

.n_n.

I'd be cool with this. Especially if it's these 3.

 

[Second Power]

Wait, what?
I don't believe anything has come up that hurts his chances. At all. Aside from a single rumor (that was proven fake, I'm not talking about the Sal leak as that has nothing to do with K. Rool) and arbitrary statements about character slots, there is pretty much nothing that hurts his chances. In fact, I'd say it's pretty strong since, you know, Kritters? Those guys have never appeared in a game without K Rool in it before and vice versa. I doubt this is the exception.

Are you refering to the Petilil/GameFAQ leak? That doesn't get proven wrong until the end of the week, if it is fake.