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AncientTobacco

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So, Splatoon and STEAM were shown off at E3, with us having no prior knowledge of them. Is it possible Sakurai will pull a Roy, and add an Inkling or Bill Rizer a STEAM character to advertise them more? Or are we ignoring the fact and saying something like that will never happen? Personally, I think we have an inkling i'msosorry of a chance.
Sakurai is not going to add a character just to advertise some random game that's coming out after Smash.
Except Roy was a last-minute clone addition that was only considered after Sakurai wanted to beef up the Melle roster.
And the reason they chose him wasn't because he'd advertise an upcoming game, but rather because his fire would set him apart from Marth.
 
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Here's a game to pass the time. Let's say you're the person in charge of Smash 4, but Nintendo wants to pull a SFIII, and asks you to dump ten of the Brawl characters, and add twenty newcomers. Make a roster based off of this.
Cut:
  1. :lucas:
  2. :jigglypuff:
  3. :squirtle:
  4. :ivysaur:
  5. :snake:
  6. :sheik:
  7. :zerosuitsamus:
  8. :falco:
  9. :toonlink:
  10. :rob:(the last one I'm really not pleased about though)

Add:
  1. :4megaman:
  2. :4pacman:
  3. :mewtwopm:
  4. :4villager:
  5. :4littlemac:
  6. Toad
  7. Meowth
  8. Samurai Goroh
  9. Dixie Kong
  10. Isaac
  11. Ridley
  12. Bandana Waddle Dee
  13. Robin
  14. Chibi Robo
  15. King K. Rool
  16. Dillon
  17. Duck Hunt Dog
  18. Vaati
  19. Doshin the Giant. No seriously. No such thing as 2big.
  20. Bowser Jr.
That's a lot of newcomers though. Yeesh.

Eh, these conversations suck. Let's talk about something new.


So, Splatoon and STEAM were shown off at E3, with us having no prior knowledge of them. Is it possible Sakurai will pull a Roy, and add an Inkling or Bill Rizer a STEAM character to advertise them more? Or are we ignoring the fact and saying something like that will never happen? Personally, I think we have an inkling i'msosorry of a chance.
Depends...does anyone know when Splatoon started development?

Honestly can't see it unless DLC becomes a thing.
 
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Even if she where to fight exactly like that in Smash, she'd still be worse than Brawl MetaKnight.
 

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I can't really post who I plan to main due to me always picking a vast majority of characters. My top three interests so far are:
:4villager:
:4charizard:
:4mario:
Hopefully Sakurai's team can fix the two veterans in this installment. There's only a handful of characters that I refuse to play as. Only one of them is confirmed as of now.
 

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Anyone think there'll be any more 3rd party characters? I'd have hopes for Rayman, but I doubt he'll be added due to that falling out Nintendo and Ubisoft had a while back.
 
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Blah to Impa. Ghirahim also has a big sword plus a diva attitude and a dose of homo-eroticism.
 
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I doubt Snake will be back, sadly.

Pac-Man has been treated as the last third party by Sakurai, the missing link to the four most iconic Smash characters.

E3 was the perfect time to reveal Snake.
Unless we get Snake in the August Direct I think he's done for.
 

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Anyone think there'll be any more 3rd party characters? I'd have hopes for Rayman, but I doubt he'll be added due to that falling out Nintendo and Ubisoft had a while back.
Personally, I'm hoping for Snake and Layton. Well, sort of. I've kind of lost hope for Layton recently, but I've already got a mii prepared for him.
 

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Pac-Man has been treated as the last third party by Sakurai, the missing link to the four most iconic Smash characters.

E3 was the perfect time to reveal Snake.
Unless we get Snake in the August Direct I think he's done for.
Sonic was treated the same way.
Only with, obviously, less fanfare, as he's a veteran.

And E3, in hindsight, would've been a terrible time to reveal Snake, considering that Pac-Man was revealed.
 

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Characters I'm maining:

:4littlemac::4megaman: (can't choose, so for now, they're both 1-2)
:4sonic::4samus: (It depends... if Sonic has a Classic Sonic alt.model, then Sonic is 3, and Samus is 4. Unless Samus really sucked)

:4pacman: :substitute: (subtitute space is reserved for a potential Newcomer that might make me as happy as any other character I just mentioned)


Casual use: :4zss::4palutena::4mii::4pikachu::4wiifit::4charizard:(I really hate him being alone, but I might give him a try once in a while)
 

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Characters I'll main:

:4diddy::4dk:

Diddy is obligation. Plus, I wanna proof people he can still be formidable without Brawl gimmicks. DK's buffs are awesome from what I've seen, and him being either a main or a secondary in all previous games should really put him in here. He always gets bigger, faster, and stronger to!

Secondaries:

:4myfriends::4charizard::4link::4samus:

The reported changes in Link and Samus really interesst me. Plus, am very happy that Ike is back, and Charizard is solo this time. Hopefully they'll buff both reasonably enough, as they felt kinda clumpsy in Brawl. However, with the changes Bowser has gone under it has to be expected. Ike and Charizard aren't gonna be slower than him.

Potential secondaries (depending on playstyle) :

:4pikachu::4tlink::4sheik::4yoshi::4marth:

Pikachu has always been a character I liked to use in all games. Outside of Melee really, cause as a kid I couldn't get over his nerfs and moves on to Mewtwo and DK. If this didn't happen, Pikachu would've been a standard secondary, behind only Diddy and DK. However, he's the one character here that I feel has most potential making it as a secondary. Thunder seems interessting. QAC is back. Promising character for sure!

Toon Link am just very happy is back.

Sheik, while I did wanted her to be cut, seems like she has significantly buffed. Out of spite for the character, I picked her up in Brawl and then Melee. Her playstyle is cool, and she "MIGHT" be the closest thing to Impa I'll get. If Impa is out, I guess I'll try her.

Yoshi getting buffs and actually being somewhat viable will definitely make me use him casually.

Marth has always been a character I wanted to be somewhat good with. In Brawl, this was easier than Melee I felt. However, I did gain some skill with both incarations that I have some confidence in. If he's still good, I will at least play him casually. Plus, I really enjoyed Fire Emblem 12! I really did.

Veterans I also feel like trying:

:ganondorf::ness2::4zelda:

Ganondorf: If he has undergone changes, he'll probably be a secondary.
Ness: Loved him in Brawl. Will try out. Hopefully will have significant buffs, and wouldn't be opposed to new moves either.
Zelda: Complained all the time that she should be separate. Wanna try out some Phantom shenanigans. But she'll probably suck.
 
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I honestly am not as sure snake is out as most people. Considering moveset creativity is a clear focus in this game, I doubt Sakurai would dispense with an extremely unique trap-user, the only in the series.
 
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I honestly aren't as sure snake is out as most people. Considering moveset creativity is a clear focus in this game, I doubt Sakurai would dispense with an extremely unique trap-user, the only in the series.
I'm with you; I don't think we can count Snake out until all directs before release happen.
 

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I'm going to main Yoshi, and (in no particular order) keep a Bowser, Sheik, and maybe Link on standby. Probably one of Chrom/Awakening rep and Shulk as well.
 

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All three of my mains (Ness, Lucas, Ganondorf) haven't even been confirmed yet, but out of the newcomers I'd dabble in Little Mac and Mega Man.
 

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All of my Brawl mains except for ROB are back.

For newcomers, I'm interested in Rosalina (no matter how high her learning curve may be), Villager and Pac-Man.
 

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Oh we're posting secondaries now?

Well, :wario: is gonna be my main no matter what unless they change him too much for my liking. (Basically, screw it if he's anything like Project M Wario.) The only "second main" (pretty much a secondary anyway *shrugs*) I'll ever use is :snake:. Snake and Wario are my two favorite video game characters of all time, so here's hoping Snake returns. Chorus Kids might change my mind though about the whole "second main" thing that makes no sense!

:4littlemac:
For a secondary, I have a very strong candidate. In every fighting game I always main the boxer, with the only exception being Street Fighter games that has M.Bison, in which case the boxers (Balrog and Dudley) are secondaries. It's gonna be similar here, while Wario is my main, Mac undoubtedly gonna be a character I'll use a lot. To be frank, I'm not exactly the biggest fan of his moveset design from all we saw, but I feel it's an obligation for me to use him as a boxer myself. Doesn't help I'm a big Punch Out fan.

:falcon::4dk::4diddy::falco::jigglypuff:
And here are the characters that I'd dabble with a lot. I mained DK (64), Falcon (Melee) and Diddy (Project M) at one point, so I'm very familiar with them. Falco and Jigglypuff are characters I just generally enjoy using a lot in both Melee and Brawl. (and 64 too for Puff)
 
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Snake wouldn't be kept as a secret. He's a 3rd party character, which means they would contractually probably be obligated to reveal him.

I'm not entirely confident in his chances. There is always a chance, but I'm not going to sugarcoat it to make it seem like he's still in.

Frankly, the fact that Sakurai is making a big deal out of the 3rd party cast being what it is so far seems to me like there won't be any others. I would be more understanding of "OMG SNAKE ISN'T NINTENDO" if he wasn't already in Smash. He's always going to hold the title of "First 3rd Party character in Smash". It wasn't Sonic, not Mega Man, not Pac-Man. It was Solid Snake.

Snake being in Brawl is arguably his biggest connection to Nintendo. So why bother cutting him? His footprint will always be there for the series.

I'm an absolute advocate for him showing up as DLC, because I absolutely think he should stay.
 
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Will EVERY newcomer receive his/her intro video? If that's the case, I don't see Nintendo doing anymore than 3-5 from this point to the release date. If DLC characters even exist, will they be newcomers or scrapped old characters? If newcomers, will they receive videos too?
 

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Will EVERY newcomer receive his/her intro video? If that's the case, I don't see Nintendo doing anymore than 3-5 from this point to the release date. If DLC characters even exist, will they be newcomers or scrapped old characters? If newcomers, will they receive videos too?
Pretty sure Sakurai said that every newcomer will get their own trailer. Somewhere around last year's E3.

He also said every character will have their own page on the website.
 

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Will EVERY newcomer receive his/her intro video? If that's the case, I don't see Nintendo doing anymore than 3-5 from this point to the release date. If DLC characters even exist, will they be newcomers or scrapped old characters? If newcomers, will they receive videos too?
I imagine so, every newcomer thus far has had a trailer dedicated to them. I also think I heard mentioned somewhere(that I cannot clearly recall) that these trailers would be available for viewing in the game itself. I think. Don't hold me to that. u.u;

Snake wouldn't be kept as a secret. He's a 3rd party character, which means they would contractually probably be obligated to reveal him.

I'm not entirely confident in his chances. There is always a chance, but I'm not going to sugarcoat it to make it seem like he's still in.

Frankly, the fact that Sakurai is making a big deal out of the 3rd party cast being what it is so far seems to me like there won't be any others. I would be more understanding of "OMG SNAKE ISN'T NINTENDO" if he wasn't already in Smash. He's always going to hold the title of "First 3rd Party character in Smash". It wasn't Sonic, not Mega Man, not Pac-Man. It was Solid Snake.

Snake being in Brawl is arguably his biggest connection to Nintendo. So why bother cutting him? His footprint will always be there for the series.

I'm an absolute advocate for him showing up as DLC, because I absolutely think he should stay.
Snake was certainly unique and a blast to play in Brawl, but there's no real tie between Konami and Nintendo anymore. While it would be nice for them to try and drum up interest in one anothers' series, why would you when you get little payback of your own out of it. MGSV isn't coming to Wii U, at least not in any appreciable amount of time, and I really doubt Konami is staking anything on SSB4's successes. I think he's gone, unfortunately.
 

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Snake wouldn't be kept as a secret. He's a 3rd party character, which means they would contractually probably be obligated to reveal him.
Can't say I necessarily agree here, but I figure the best time to reveal him as a returning fighter would have been at E3. That never happened, so I assume he's either not in the game, or they intend to reveal him and sweep him under the rug, so as to avoid taking spotlight from the new third party characters.
 

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Let's see, my three mains from each game (Samus, Marth, and Olimar) are back, although I never ever doubted their return. Mr. Game & Watch is yet to be officially confirmed, and my Project M main (standalone) Charizard is once again a reality.

Yet somehow, I'm still disappointed in the current list of newcomers, barring Little Mac and Pac-Man.
 
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Honestly?

Me too. It sucks that the two most hyped characters aren't even Nintendo characters.
To be fair, the fact that they are both A- not nintendo, and B- very popular, is the reason why they are the most hyped characters. I thinks it's perfectly fine because besides those two, we are getting added series reps people wanted(Palutena, Greninja), and several new series reps along with that(villager, wii fit trainer, little mac) Plus, assuming the Gematsu leak is true, that's an added two series and another popular Fire Emblem rep. And, if Mewtwo and/or Ridley is in the game, they will receive a lot of hype.
 

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I've been thinking it over for a little and I know which characters I'm sticking with too.

Mains::4mario::4fox::4megaman:: I tend to stick to Mario and Fox in the last two Smash games, so I don't see this changing anytime soon. But I'm really hyped to play as Megaman. He might take some time getting used to, since he's a keep away character, but that actually makes me even more excited to fight with him.

Secondaries: :4samus::4sheik::4luigi::4charizard::rosalina:: I liked using Samus, Sheik, and Luigi a lot, so I'm gonna stick with them. But now I'm interested in using Charizard more, since he's on his own. Rosalina might be hard to use though.

Others: :4diddy::4greninja::4myfriends::4littlemac::4zelda::4pacman:: I might not use them as often, but they look cool. So there's that.
 
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It's too bad I want to use Rosalina and Mega Man, they both have a bit of a learning curve, whereas Little Mac and Greninja can just jump in and start obliterating everyone.
See the thing about characters with big learning curves, that usually means they are good competitively. Just look at ice climbers. Though, whether or not that matters to you, I don't know, but all the most of the newcomers in general seem to bring something new to the table that the community will have quite a time figuring out. I'm just excited to play the game, as is everyone else.
 

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So we're not looking at any more than 3-5 more newcomers, correct?
 
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