Character Discussion Thread

[Samuel Intrater]

I'm still holding out for Snake his moveset is too good to just be thrown out the window and there is not a single character in Nintendo history that can take his moveset.
Yes chances do look thin but Sakurai and Kojima are a perfect team of trolls.

If you've noticed, they've sort of been working his moves into other parts of the game. ZSS's final smash is like Snake's and the Steel Diver item is like his forward B.

 

[Sonic Poke]

Jigglypuff is not a clone character.

Yes, she is. Better saying, she was. She shared the same neutral moves with Kirby in SSB64. The only moves not shared are the three specials.

Yeah, interesting, to almost the entire community, Jigglypuff 64 is not a clone, even with all Kirby's neutrals, and Wolf, that roughly shares two specials with Fox, and don't share any neutral, is considered a simi clone.

 

[Boofer]

In the past I have presented my roster, showing off my own smash philosophy while adhering to current confirmations.
This is not my roster, this is a prediction roster, since I, for the first time in my smash speculating career, feel comfortable with predicting what I think WILL happen. So, without further ado:

Top is main roster, bottom is possible DLC.
Tell me what you think.

This looks reasonable. I haven't as much faith in Mewtwo's immediate return as some, but I definitely want that to happen. I personally don't think Ridley will be in it. Snake is iffy because of his recent history, but it would be a shame to lose such a unique and fun character. Besides that, I don't believe Mii fighters will have 3 separate slots, but your's is one of the most reasonable given the leaked info.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Mewtwo, Isaac, King K.Rool, Impa.

Think these will be our final newcomers along what we know off already.

 

[Cobalsh]

So... did anyone else notice a lack of Dark Link skins? Not that it's significant or anything, just wanted to point it out.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

So... did anyone else notice a lack of Dark Link skins? Not that it's significant or anything, just wanted to point it out.

It's not like all the palette swaps would be available in the demo. Maybe we'll see them all upon release.

 

[Leafeon523]

So, no G and W on the site today? I'm starting to think that all teased characters will be unlockable. Perhaps they were shown off in a Robot Chicken skit, or a Twitter pic, or at the end of another character's reveal, or as a shadow...

 

[Diddy Kong]

So, which excisting series you people think are gonna get characters?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

So, no G and W on the site today? I'm starting to think that all teased characters will be unlockable. Perhaps they were shown off in a Robot Chicken skit, or a Twitter pic, or at the end of another character's reveal, or as a shadow...

It would seem odd for starters to be demoted to unlockable status, though that has happened to Ness and Captain Falcon. On the other hand, those two were unlockables in their first Smash Bros. appearance.

 

[Leafeon523]

It would seem odd for starters to be demoted to unlockable status, though that has happened to Ness and Captain Falcon. On the other hand, those two were unlockables in their first Smash Bros. appearance.

I wouldn't really consider it a demotion, considering they are still in the game. After all, I think Wario was unlockable in mk7.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I wouldn't really consider it a demotion, considering they are still in the game. After all, I think Wario was unlockable in mk7.

He was, but Wario was a starter again in Mario Kart 8. Last I've checked, no Smash Bros. newcomer who got the starter status has ever been treated as an unlockable in a later installment.

 

[False Sense]

He was, but Wario was a starter again in Mario Kart 8. Last I've checked, no Smash Bros. newcomer who got the starter status has ever been treated as an unlockable in a later installment.

Well, there was Ness and Captain Falcon.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Well, there was Ness and Captain Falcon.

They were unlockables in Super Smash Bros..

 

[Leafeon523]

He was, but Wario was a starter again in Mario Kart 8. Last I've checked, no Smash Bros. newcomer who got the starter status has ever been treated as an unlockable in a later installment.

It would be one possible explamation as to why we have not seen Wario yet.

Well, there was Ness and Captain Falcon.

I think he meant that no newcomer was ever unlockable. Ness and cap were not introduced in melee.
Edit: Greninja'd

 

[Zzuxon]

He was, but Wario was a starter again in Mario Kart 8. Last I've checked, no Smash Bros. newcomer who got the starter status has ever been treated as an unlockable in a later installment.

Captain Falcon and Ness were both starters in Melee.
Ah, Greninja'd

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Captain Falcon and Ness were both starters in Melee.
Ah, Greninja'd

They were veterans in Melee. I said that no newcomer who received the starter status ever got demoted to being an unlockable.

 

[Xenorange]

Well, i'm bummed out guys. Just watched Sakurai S*** all over Sonic by making Palutena faster than him. Now the character iconic for his speed gets outsped, marvolous day indeed.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

So I just noticed that Marth is on the boxart. A sign of starter ascension in favor of Chrom / Robin?

 

[Oblivion129]

It would seem odd for starters to be demoted to unlockable status, though that has happened to Ness and Captain Falcon. On the other hand, those two were unlockables in their first Smash Bros. appearance.

In that case we'll be seeing Wario, Ice Climbers and Meta Knight (assuming Lucas is cut) revealed before release.
But Lucas can't be cut because no starter has ever been cut. Them patterns.

 

[Twin Shot]

If you've noticed, they've sort of been working his moves into other parts of the game. ZSS's final smash is like Snake's and the Steel Diver item is like his forward B.

I don't think we've ever actually seen how shiek's smoke grenade works.
Charizard and Bowser both have flame breathe. Charizard and Bowser both are still in the game.

Final Smash for Snake would make way more sense to have it be Metal Gear, especially after MGS4.
These can also be reused. See...uhm..every Star Fox Character in Brawl.

Have not seen any indication of similar smash attacks or other moves.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Well, i'm bummed out guys. Just watched Sakurai S*** all over Sonic by making Palutena faster than him. Now the character iconic for his speed gets outsped, marvolous day indeed.

You do need to ask yourself what Palutena's customization options are, since it's possible that she doesn't naturally move that fast.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Dang, Mr Game and Watch wasn't revealed today...

But what the heck, he was in the Pac-Man's trailer, we already know he's in the game as playable. I'm not worried about him that much.

 

[Twin Shot]

Dang, Mr Game and Watch wasn't revealed today...

But what the heck, he was in the Pac-Man's trailer, we already know he's in the game as playable. I'm not worried about him that much.

Yeah. I thought the same thing. Can easily see him being the next reveal, though.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Yeah. I thought the same thing. Can easily see him being the next reveal, though.

I hope so, I'm desperate for veterans after the last three days with three newcomers and no veterans.

 

[CroonerMike]

Well, i'm bummed out guys. Just watched Sakurai S*** all over Sonic by making Palutena faster than him. Now the character iconic for his speed gets outsped, marvolous day indeed.

I believe it is a move actually. She says "Lightweight" but if you watch the trailer a little before that you see her running and she is quite slow.

 

[Niala]

Well, i'm bummed out guys. Just watched Sakurai S*** all over Sonic by making Palutena faster than him. Now the character iconic for his speed gets outsped, marvolous day indeed.

I think it's one of her customization attacks, not her actual run-speed. If you go to the trailer and watch from 1:45-1:50 you'll see her actual run and walk speeds.

 

[mahnamahna]

Hmm, if they're trying to put as many characters as possible (game was delayed by 3 months), and DLC is planned, I see 3 cuts from Brawl initially : Squirtle, Ivysaur, Snake. Those are the only three that seems extremely likely to be gone.

There's been 32 announced (Pac-Man, Sonic, and Megaman will be unlockable)

4 remaining starters:

1. Wario
2. Meta Knight
3. Ice Climbers
4. Lucas

That gives 33 starters... with 17 unlockables on initial release.

Unlockables:

1. Ness
2. Captain Falcon
3. Jigglypuff
4. Mewtwo
5. Ganondorf
6. Falco
7. Wolf
8. Mr. Game and Watch
9. R.O.B.
10. Sonic
11. Megaman
12. Pac-Man
13. Chrom
14. Shulk
15. Marshall (Chorus Kids)
16. King K. Rool
17. Ridley

13 DLC characters:

1. Paper Mario
2. Bowser Jr.
3. Ivysaur
4. Squirtle
5. Dixie Kong
6. Impa
7. Krystal
8. Roy
9. Takamara
10. Mach Rider
11. Chibi-Robo
12. Issac
13. Snake

63 slots, 1 random=64. Any cut veterans would likely be DLC. Roy might come back as a nod to Melee... although Pichu might come back as a joke.

If they're making DLC, the characters better be between 55 to 70.

 

[AncientTobacco]

I believe it is a move actually. She says "Lightweight" but if you watch the trailer a little before that you see her running and she is quite slow.

Yep. All of the moves she named in the trailer are probably the custom specials (there's 12 of them), with the exception of the Black Hole + Mega Lazer combo, which seems to be her Final Smash.

Also, am I the only one who thinks it's odd that the Goddess of Light has an attack that creates a Black Hole?

 

[MasterMushroom]

Well, i'm bummed out guys. Just watched Sakurai S*** all over Sonic by making Palutena faster than him. Now the character iconic for his speed gets outsped, marvolous day indeed.

Not a sonic fan at all nor am I trying to attack Palutena or anything but; was I the only one who thought she was way too OP based on the trailer alone?

I could be wrong and her moves may be just flashy, but the last thing we need is another Meta Knight disaster like last time

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I could be wrong and her moves may be just flashy, but the last thing we need is another Meta Knight disaster like last time

Palutena will never be like Meta Knight, since Meta Knight is a small target, and the best of the best are typically the fighters who are short.

 

[Shagadelic_Baby]

So, where's Zero's big surprise that he said was suppossed to be today?

 

[Joe D.]

Hi everyone, this is going to sound extremely random, but I felt like sharing.

Today was my last day of High School, and having this experience taught me so many things that will stay with me forever. I just wanted to say that I'm thankful that I'm fortunate enough to have these memories. But the reason I am even typing this is to thank each and every one of you. This forum taught new ways to think and formulate opinions on everything, and your lessons have had such a major impact on me. To the moderaters, the visitors, and to anyone else affiliated with this site, thank you for having such a positive impact on my life. Love you guys, and I appreciate everything that goes on here.

Ok, I apologize for this being out of the blue, but now you can ignore this and go back on topic

 

[Xhampi]

Well, i'm bummed out guys. Just watched Sakurai S*** all over Sonic by making Palutena faster than him. Now the character iconic for his speed gets outsped, marvolous day indeed.

Sonic : Rolling arround at the speed of sound, got pl-

*A Green blur pass by Sonic, easily outspeeding him*

Palutena : Speed of light ***** !

No seriously, she is that fast ? Where did you see it ?

 

[Xenorange]

I think it's one of her customization attacks, not her actual run-speed. If you go to the trailer and watch from 1:45-1:50 you'll see her actual run and walk speeds.

Ahh I see, I feel much better now. Haha funny how minor details such as this can affect mood so drastically.

 

[Maxilian]

Mewtwo, Isaac, King K.Rool, Impa.

Think these will be our final newcomers along what we know off already.

Impa? why Impa? remenber that Impa was way too much like Sheik, the only "unique" Impa is the Hyrule Warrior's Impa, and Sakurai said that he didn't know what characters will be playable in Hyrule Warrior and that they choosed the roster a long time ago, so he wouldn't have known that Impa was in Hyrule Warrior when SSB roster was already made

But we could get her as a DLC

 

[Weeman]

Why is everyone assuming we are going to have DLC characters?, Sal never said the DLC were characters, and honestly having a roster of 60+ characters seems ridiculous, considering balancing 39 was already a challenge.

 

[Xenorange]

Why is everyone assuming we are going to have DLC characters?, Sal never said the DLC were characters, and honestly having a roster of 60+ characters seems ridiculous, considering balancing 39 was already a challenge.

Answer: Bamco and tekken. Bamco would be more than capable of balancing such a large roster.

 

[Maxilian]

Why is everyone assuming we are going to have DLC characters?, Sal never said the DLC were characters, and honestly having a roster of 60+ characters seems ridiculous, considering balancing 39 was already a challenge.

What @ Xenorange said also... remenber that is easier to balance characters when you already know them (Most of the veterans have the same attacks, so they already know how to fix them thanks to the previews version -Brawl-)

Also... we assume we are going to have DLC characters cause we all know that will sell... and want it or not, Nintendo is a company that likes money

 

[Weeman]

Answer: Bamco and tekken. Bamco would be more than capable of balancing such a large roster.

What @ Xenorange said also... remenber that is easier to balance characters when you already know them (Most of the veterans have the same attacks, so they already know how to fix them thanks to the previews version -Brawl-)

Also... we assume we are going to have DLC characters cause we all know that will sell... and want it or not, Nintendo is a company that likes money

The thing is that any character planned for DLC would have to be completed by now, because that's how Sakurai works, they decide the roster very early in development. This means that they would hold all those characters in purpose for the sake of making them DLC, wich would contradict Sakurai's philosophy of making his games as complete as he can when released.

 

[The Light Music Club]

If we are getting Chrom, Robin or Micaiah better be one of the first DLC available. Smash doesn't represent Fire Emblem well if they do end up adding Chrom.

Oh, and I pray that Palutena is one of the better newcomers. I really hope she is. If not I'll pull a Phoenix Wright from UMvC3 and make her good.