Character Discussion Thread

[Andinus]

Well, despite him having some fairly cheap-ass moves, I'm glad Ike is back. So I guess prepare yourselves *******. However, I will say I kind of hope chrom is not in the game, unless they find a way to really set him apart from Marth and Ike. And not that they couldn't. But now I would rather have a non sword wielding fire emblem character, or someone from a different franchise take up one of they newcomer slots.

 

[OblivionWolf]

I really like that Ike's body type fits his play style more. Never was a fan of skinny guy who was a heavyweight. Smash needed more manly characters anyway.

Now I hope Captain Falcon gets his roided up GX look.

Atleast give him the GX helmet. Looks waaaay better with the golden falcon wings coming off the helmet.

 

[TylerBlackRunIt]

Here is my update Wish Roster.

 

[MAGMIS]

I don't like how already there are 3 character that have that "Slip Counter" move which is their Down Special move.

Little mac/Marth/Ike..... and I'm hoping Chrom gets a different Down special move from those 3. Also u could see closely on one of the pics where it shows little mac and Ike, that Ike is using the Counter move like marth against Mac.

 

[Spazzy_D]

I don't like how already there are 3 character that have that "Slip Counter" move which is their Down Special move.

Little mac/Marth/Ike..... and I'm hoping Chrom gets a different Down special move from those 3. Also u could see closely on one of the pics where it shows little mac and Ike, that Ike is using the Counter move like marth against Mac.

Lucario, Peach, and Greninja also have counters, and I'm sure if we get another FE rep (which I'm confident we will) they will have one too. Don't have any issue with it personally.

 

[Oddyesy]

Well, despite him having some fairly cheap-*** moves, I'm glad Ike is back. So I guess prepare yourselves *****es. However, I will say I kind of hope chrom is not in the game, unless they find a way to really set him apart from Marth and Ike. And not that they couldn't. But now I would rather have a non sword wielding fire emblem character, or someone from a different franchise take up one of they newcomer slots.

>Ike
>Cheap moves
>Ike is literally slower than a snail

Just kidding, but really. The start/end lag on his moves give you plenty of time to avoid.

 

[MAGMIS]

Lucario, Peach, and Greninja also have counters, and I'm sure if we get another FE rep (which I'm confident we will) they will have one too. Don't have any issue with it personally.

ye but those 3 operate the same exact way. Once hit, they counter attack with a punch or sword swing. there's 3 of those with a little difference. I'm just hoping it doesn't become a fourth with Chrom being in the game.

Lucario/Greninja - Once hit, they counter attack with a dash. there's only 2 of those with a little difference.

that's the way I see it.

 

[Deleted member]

Ike's Radiant Dawn model is amazing, and I'm really happy because his moveset will actually fit his body type this time around.

Also, is it wrong that I want to main Ike now just so I can stare at the greatness that is his new model?

 

[BluePikmin11]

I hope they give him a Tomahawk for a side-special. Never really liked his playstyle, a projectile would be nice.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Sadly my argument's been overshadowed, but at least mah boi Ike is back and as a real man too. It looks like he's came straight from Otokojuku with such a fantastic physique. And yeah, Ike's confirmation doesn't kill Chrom's at all since a popular series like Fire Emblem can easily have 3 reps.

 

[Deleted member]

I hope they give him a Tomahawk for a side-special. Never really liked his playstyle, a projectile would be nice.

That would certainly be interesting, and of course Ike would be the Lord to do it with since he is one of the few lords that can use multiple weapons. The only problem I see with this is how Ike's recovery would be balanced, as a heavyweight, his jumps don't have incredible vertical reach, and even Aether isn't the best recovery since it has such a set path that can only slightly be influenced (granted, it has decent vertical coverage and is difficult to edgehog). If his Side-B was removed and he lost the horizontal recovery coverage he had with that move, I fear he would experience a significant drop tier-wise because while he has many hard-hitting moves, similar to Little Mac, he is significantly slower with less overall mobility. As such, right now I don't believe his ground or air game would be strong enough to counterbalance a change in one of his special moves that would ultimately be a nerf to his recovery options.

 

[Plain Yogurt]

I hope they give him a Tomahawk for a side-special. Never really liked his playstyle, a projectile would be nice.

I'm personally hoping we get the Ragnell sword beam somewhere.

 

[Rockaphin]

No! Ike should be on the disc!

Wow, second Friday in a row that I got my wish! I must be very special!

 

[Autumn ♫]

Wow, second Friday in a row that I got my wish! I must be very special!

Predict the return of Snake or Vaati as a newcomer revealed next Friday please, Prophet of ours.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

And my prediction roster and my Ikeargument goes in vain. ;-;
Now I'm certain almost everyone will come back except Snake.

How did the whole "Zoroark is more likely than Jigglypuff" theory end up?


Also I guess MUH PATTERNS didn't hold up, eh?

 

[Phaazoid]

Yeah, didn't think they'd cut Ike.

Also thought they'd show off at least one more vet before E3. Kinda thought it would be ice climbers, but close enough.

Everyone seems to be posting updated rosters - I haven't updated mine since before E3. Last year. Might have to do that.

 

[BluePikmin11]

How did the whole "Zoroark is more likely than Jigglypuff" theory end up?

I relied way too much on uniqueness at that time, now that we have Greninja, I'm pretty certain he's just looking for great and/or unique characters to add in Sakurai's roster. I'm going to update my roster, but it's going to be very difficult who to cut now. ;-;

 

[Baskerville]

There shouldn't be any need for cuts at this point.

 

[Niala]

Ike's Radiant Dawn model is amazing, and I'm really happy because his moveset will actually fit his body type this time around.

Also, is it wrong that I want to main Ike now just so I can stare at the greatness that is his new model?

I am so down with that. Just look at him-- how could you NOT have a man-crush on him?

But yay. Big sword is back with bigger muscles and dreamy hair. Objectively, the design fits his playstyle better anyway. A huge bulky guy running around with a giant sword swinging it wildly looks more realistic than how skinny he was in comparison to the Brawl image. Although I suppose he was younger then, since it was the Path of Radiance design, but still.

Subjectively, ./ogles

 

[True Blue Warrior]

There shouldn't be any need for cuts at this point.

What about haircuts?

 

[False Sense]

I relied way too much on uniqueness at that time, now that we have Greninja, I'm pretty certain he's just looking for great and/or unique characters to add in Sakurai's roster. I'm going to update my roster, but it's going to be very difficult who to cut now. ;-;

Don't you still have Kawashima on your roster? That would be an easy cut.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Seems like Ike doesn't have the sword arm either, so I think it's safe to say that all our worst nightmares with Ike didn't come true.

 

[Zzuxon]

Don't you still have Kawashima on your roster? That would be an easy cut.

Don't ask Blue Pikmin to cut Dr. Kawashima. IS FUTILE

 

[Phaazoid]

Welp, here's my updated roster predictions. Kind of threw it together quickly, but I think it's a good mix of what I really want for the roster, and for what I kinda expect.

Spoiler

This is actually fairly similar to my original roster. I've updated the for the 6 newcomers we had revealed (both megaman and rosalina I had on my original ^.^) and for the no transformations.

This roster is leaning a bit less towards realistic, and a bit more towards what I'm hoping for. in order to kind of balance that, bottom left are characters I acknowledge have a chance to get in but don't really want, while bottom right are characters I hope are in, but I already have 11 newcomers, not sure how many characters there will be total. I feel my estimate is a bit low, there is probably room for a few more newcomers. I'm just bad at picking which, but I'd bet on them being from that list.

Palutena, mii, and shulk aren't there because of the 'leak'. I had shulk and mii on my old, pre E3 roster, where I just did what I thought, not what I wanted, haha. ofcourse, I had mach rider in over little mac back then, too.

If there's a character not here at all, it means I don't acknowledge their chances, or forgot about them while making this by accident. And I still think there's going to be at least one more surprise character, that only a small % or no one is going to guess. So there's that.


And yes, Ridley's still up there. Here's my explanation for that

Spoiler

 

[The Light Music Club]

I don't see how anyone could be surprised. If Toon Link is going to make it in, it only makes sense that Ike would. This helps R.O.B.'s chances as well, another character with an original move set that some people think is cut.

 

[Rockaphin]

I don't see how anyone could be surprised. If Toon Link is going to make it in, it only makes sense that Ike would. This helps R.O.B.'s chances as well, another character with an original move set that some people think is cut.

I wished that applied to the Pokémon Trainer. All three were very unique and original. My main gets the boot again. . .

 

[AncientTobacco]

Good to see Ike back.

Now the FE representation is complete.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Don't you still have Kawashima on your roster? That would be an easy cut.

I'll remove him if he's not revealed at E3 as one of the WFT reveals, that determines if I cut him.

 

[Autumn ♫]

I'll remove him if he's not revealed at E3 as one of the WFT reveals, that determines if I cut him.

Wait, you'd cut him just for that? Who are you and what did you do with BluePikmin!?

 

[Niala]

Welp, here's my updated roster predictions. Kind of threw it together quickly, but I think it's a good mix of what I really want for the roster, and for what I kinda expect.

Spoiler

This is actually fairly similar to my original roster. I've updated the for the 6 newcomers we had revealed (both megaman and rosalina I had on my original ^.^) and for the no transformations.

This roster is leaning a bit less towards realistic, and a bit more towards what I'm hoping for. in order to kind of balance that, bottom left are characters I acknowledge have a chance to get in but don't really want, while bottom right are characters I hope are in, but I already have 11 newcomers, not sure how many characters there will be total. I feel my estimate is a bit low, there is probably room for a few more newcomers. I'm just bad at picking which, but I'd bet on them being from that list.

Palutena, mii, and shulk aren't there because of the 'leak'. I had shulk and mii on my old, pre E3 roster, where I just did what I thought, not what I wanted, haha. ofcourse, I had mach rider in over little mac back then, too.

If there's a character not here at all, it means I don't acknowledge their chances, or forgot about them while making this by accident. And I still think there's going to be at least one more surprise character, that only a small % or no one is going to guess. So there's that.


And yes, Ridley's still up there. Here's my explanation for that

Spoiler

This is the best argument I've heard for Ridley since the direct. Amazing.

Overall I like your realistic take on the roster, though. Mixing in what you want to see is what makes it personal, but making objective additions separate from the main roster leaves nobody wondering. 10/10

 

[False Sense]

I'll remove him if he's not revealed at E3 as one of the WFT reveals, that determines if I cut him.

Just going to say that you might as well do it now. Sorry to say, but it really isn't going to happen.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Just going to say that you might as well do it now. Sorry to say, but it really isn't going to happen.

And I'm just here risking, being the only existent human to add him in a prediction roster.
Just crossing fingers, this discouraging feeling was expected of me anyways.

 

[Phaazoid]

And I'm just here risking, being the only existent human to add him in a prediction roster.
Just crossing fingers, this discouraging feeling was expected of me anyways.

If you don't include your one character that you want on your roster, then why even make the roster? keep at it. You'll only be disappointed if you take him off or if he doesn't make it in

This is the best argument I've heard for Ridley since the direct. Amazing.

Overall I like your realistic take on the roster, though. Mixing in what you want to see is what makes it personal, but making objective additions separate from the main roster leaves nobody wondering. 10/10

haha thanks. I was afraid splitting it up would be too confusing for people who are too lazy, but I'm just really bad at decisions. I'm willing to bet all but 2 or 3 characters in the game are on that image, though.

 

[BluePikmin11]

If you don't include your one character that you want on your roster, then why even make the roster? keep at it. You'll only be disappointed if you take him off or if he doesn't make it in.

They are roster predictions, not mostly wants really for the reasons I added him. If he doesn't make it in, I'll just shrug and say I'm wrong and remove him from my roster.

 

[Autumn ♫]

They are roster predictions, not mostly wants really for the reasons I added him. If he doesn't make it in, I'll just shrug and say I'm wrong and remove him from my roster.

It's still possible that he's be playable, just as a secret character, like ROB and Mr.G&W were. I'd keep him. You removing him would take away from the uniqueness of your roster, it'd be like me taking Vaati off mine.

 

[BluePikmin11]

It's still possible that he's be playable, just as a secret character, like ROB and Mr.G&W were. I'd keep him. You removing him would take away from the uniqueness of your roster, it'd be like me taking Vaati off mine.

I doubt he's secret material, he seems like starter material like Wii Fit and Rhythm Heaven, both being big (or relatively big for RH) franchises and being starter material makes sense.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

So considering the changes to other veterans, I wonder if Sakurai will go back to his original concept of Ike have a projectile.

I think that would be pretty awesome, but would it make him OP? Not that I care. The guy fights for his friends and gives no sympathy. He's the man.

 

[Spazzy_D]

So considering the changes to other veterans, I wonder if Sakurai will go back to his original concept of Ike have a projectile.

I think that would be pretty awesome, but would it make him OP? Not that I care. The guy fights for his friends and gives no sympathy. He's the man.

I've always felt that his neutral special was literally taken from Roy when he was in development and given to Ike just because it was there to be taken. I'd like something a bit different there.

 

[*The Sensus Crustulum*]

Ah, Ike confirmed. Not as excited as everyone though, I knew he was in the game ever since Lucario was revealed.

 

[Kenith]

Ah, Ike confirmed. Not as excited as everyone though, I knew he was in the game ever since Lucario was revealed.

Me too. I also correctly predicted that he would use his Radiant Dawn look to fit his character archetype more.

Speculation points for us! :D