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As much as I want to see the Masked Man in there HHEHHMYNAME I think A LOT of those characters will not see that little envelope inviting them to join Smash Bros.
+9-volt
A fellow Masked Man supporter! Hello, new best friend! :D
Well let me start with:
and not Sceptile? (i think we still have 
as an AT)
(Totally biased here)
Where is your source for Sceptile being promoted? Please Link it.Lucario is 4th generation not Gen 3
True
Not really he was hated by most of the people (mainly because most people saw him as the character that took Mewtwo spot)
Sceptile may get a Mega Evolution
Sceptile is being "promoted" with the new Pokemon remake
That's one way to see it, but if that were true we will get a Soul Calibur character/item/stage, Sceptile could easily fill the space of the missing grass type pokemon
Greninja was added mostly to represent their new pokemon game and they took the most popular starter pokemon.
Just as Greninja, Sceptile would be in to represent their new game (E/R/S remake) and at the same time bring something new (something with a different theme)
Noone is arguing if Mewtwo or Sceptile will be in, we all know if one is going to be in, it will be Mewtwo, the same with Jigg, also... in Brawl there were 7 different pokemon character planned (Pikachu, Jigg, Lucario, Squirtle, Charizard, Ivysour and Mewtwo but Mewtwo didn't came out in the end), so it would be weird if these time we actually got 7 Pokemons
I mean that his promotion is the game itself not like... HERE YOU HAVE SCEPTILE! YOU SEE HOW COOL HE LOOKS!!!!
Pretty sure they just meant with Hoenn remakes, the chance of Sceptile being added is increased a bit.
So you mean they aren't promoting him, he just exists in the game? Skitty confirmed?I mean that his promotion is the game itself not like... HERE YOU HAVE SCEPTILE! YOU SEE HOW COOL HE LOOKS!!!!
Who knows? Maybe we will. On the subject, why not Torterra? He's the only Pokemon that's both a grass starter and dual typed, like Charizard and Greninja.
HSOWA?
Actually, Chesnaught is a Grass-Fighting. But I suppose the generation he comes from negates his chance?
wut?... No, is just like Commander Claus said, is just that his chances increased at least a bit, also... he's a starter pokemon and we are going with the idea of the 3 basic types starter pokemons, we already have charizard (fire and starter pokemon) and Greninja (water and also a starter pokemon), that's why we go with the idea of Sceptile 
No.
Under the idea that they are:
No. Promotion is show-casing Mewtwo's Mega Evolution first. Promotion is Mewtwo's appearance in 2 movies and 3 specials. He might even make a cameo in the latest installment. Promotion is giving the character 2 Mega Evolutions. Promotion is using the character in advertisements. Kyogre and Groundon are being promoted. Sceptile exists. There is a HUGE difference.
I'm really curious if they even will promote those games in Smash 4. If we look at what happened in Brawl, games that came out just before it (Mario Galaxy) and after (Metroid Prime 3) didn't get any content from their games, so there's no precedence that we will certainly get material from those remakes when it comes quite a bit after the 3DS version. Similarly, while you can argue that GF gave Sakurai the heads up, nothing that we've gotten in these games hint at that prospect.
The irrational and incompetent supporters of Sceptile are killing my hype for a 7th Pokemon character. Usually the prospect would amuse me, but this has got to be worse than the Geno epidemic.
Is true, it doesn't mean it will give them content or anything like it, noone here's saying that Sceptile Will be in the game, we just say that these give Sceptile a bigger chance.
That's why i said "promoted", we still haven't seen much of the game so we don't know, we only saw the case and is not new in any way to see Kyogre and Groundon (most Pokemon games have a Legendary pokemon in front, excluding the first Pokemon titles (Pokemon Red, Blue and Yellow -and their remakes... yes that includes Green leaf-)
Why is irrational? we gave you our reasons and we didn't said that it will happen, we just said that he have a bigger chance than before and that we would like to have him in the game and that the idea of 7 pokemons is not that weird
I don't deny that Sceptile is going to be promoted; it is obviously premature and fallacious to assert that he is being promoted. He isn't, and he wont be until closer to E3, which is where we will get our release date for Smash, way too late for Sakurai to acknowledge that Sceptile randomly became everyone's favorite starter to complete an arbitrary fan-pattern. It isn't going to happen, buddy.
I... i
, nevermind i give up, you don't understand 
Of course he has a greater chance, just like Skitty, Wingull, and every single Hoenn character. Their chances (approximately) increased from 0.01% to 1%.Why is irrational? we gave you our reasons and we didn't said that it will happen, we just said that he have a bigger chance than before and that we would like to have him in the game and that the idea of 7 pokemons is not that weird
So... Roselia confirmed? After all, it's a moderately popular grass type from 3rd gen who could be unique. Totally not implausible.
Ahhhhhh... can we just talk about something else?
I do understand; you were stretching the use of the word "promoted" because you didn't have any other logical notions to support your perspective. No one talks about Blaziken's chance because he is a Fire-Type that offers nothing, everyone talks about Sceptile's chance because he is a Grass-Type that offers nothing. That is pathetic. The only positive aspect attributable to his character is that he completes a fan-pattern a decade later. Again, Sakurai isn't going to acknowledge his popularity. It was too little, too late.I... i
Note: I used these little things -> "" for a reason
I don't think it's quite on the same level, comparatively. Mario and Zelda, respectively, have what are basically "core" characters-- characters that have been seen in several installments, and typically play large roles in the plot. Pokemon doesn't particularly have that. Each game has had a different protagonist, different sets of available pokemon, different trainers and gym leaders and everything. As such, the characters they bring to the table fall under a much, much wider deviation, in essence, popularity, which is far more widely subject to the ebbs of the fanbase than the characters that define a series.
That's was a generous increase of you to offer.
Classic Ganon over Ganondorf.Ahhhhhh... can we just talk about something else?
Like King K. Rool or the possibility of another Zelda character?
I wouldn't want Classic Ganon to replace Ganondorf, and it wouldn't be likely to happen. However, I would absolutely love Ganon in addition to Ganondorf.
Yes, you're right, it was a pathetic attempt to make Sceptile looks like a character that's going to be in the game
Yeah i totally agree with you here even if i prefer the idea of having Ghirahim over Ganon (and no, not taking out Ganondorf), Ganon as a playable character is a plausible idea, he is the classic Zelda villain and he also have been seen in more than one game (also he was the main villain in the Zelda cartoon)
No, I would punch a hole though my roof fist-pumping.
It it me, or is K. Rool not as big of a deal to Sakurai as Ridley or Mewtwo? I'm bad at picking up hints to characters I don't really care about and all, but the only thing I know of that points to him are the Kritters.Ahhhhhh... can we just talk about something else?
Like King K. Rool or the possibility of another Zelda character?
GDork seems to be having some recency issues and Beast Ganon was just in ALBW which was a huge success even though he was not the big bad. I wouldn't mind the classic, but I'd say there's about a 5% chance.
No, you're not wrong, right now King K. Rool is an almost forgotten character while Ridley and Mewtwo are still being seen in their games (Metroid and Pokemon, they keep comming over and over again, also they have a bigger group of people supporting them)
While I agree, Sceptile and the Hoenn games have been around for 11-12 years. He isn't a brand new character. Plus Greninja got in despite X and Y coming out essentially a year before this.
Yeah i also though about that, we have 2 Zelda and 2 Links, why not 2 Ganondorfs ?
and IMO is a great idea to give Ganondorf his own unique movesets and his old moveset move it to Black Shadow
A little less than half a year. It isn't the biggest difference, but Greninja didn't even have to wait half a year.
