Character Discussion Thread

[mahnamahna]

So is the option for future characters as DLC a definite, "no?"

I could see cut veterans, planned characters cut due to time constraints, and clones (Bowser Jr, Paper Mario, etc) as far as downloadable characters go... only from existing franchises though.

For example, Roy and Wolf would be perfect for DLC

 

[Opossum]

My new prediction roster. Yep, I'm betting on the Sal Leak being true. Too much going for it.

51 Characters.

 

[ZeldaMaster]

Replace Anna with Chrom and Ken with Takamaru, and I think you'll be all set for get some predictions right.

WOAH did you seriously just say that... I never thought the day would come... or is it because you believe in the Gematsu leak?

 

[mahnamahna]

My new prediction roster. Yep, I'm betting on the Sal Leak being true. Too much going for it.

51 Characters.

Remove Wolf. Put in Chibi-Robo and Mach Rider and you've got a stellar roster

 

[BluePikmin11]

WOAH did you seriously just say that... I never thought the day would come... or is it because you believe in the Gematsu leak?

Yes, thanks to Chrom (Which I expected in reality) in the Leaky Chorus, I don't expect more than one FE newcomer, and Anna's chances are at a volcano right now.

 

[N3ON]

Remove Wolf. Put in Chibi-Robo and Mach Rider and you've got a stellar roster

No Opossum, remove a character I don't like, put in two I do like, and then you've got a stellar roster.

 

[mahnamahna]

No Opossum, remove a character I don't like, put in two I do like, and then you've got a stellar roster.

Wolf is kinda a clone so it'd make sense to get rid of him in the initial release. Make him downloadable later

Plus 51 is a terrible number for a roster, so 50 or 52 would give a nice even number

 

[FlareHabanero]

No Opossum, remove a character I don't like, put in two I do like, and then you've got a stellar roster.

Those two characters are in my opinion ****.
My two characters are better, they're highly unique and will be very fun to play.

 

[Pacack]

My new prediction roster. Yep, I'm betting on the Sal Leak being true. Too much going for it.

51 Characters.

I like it, but...no Takamaru? Or retro period?

(Also, can I have that Shulk icon?)

 

[TumblrFamous]

Wolf is kinda a clone so it'd make sense to get rid of him in the initial release. Make him downloadable later

Plus 51 is a terrible number for a roster, so 50 or 52 would give a nice even number

Falco is more of a clone by far.

 

[Baskerville]

Wolf is kinda a clone so it'd make sense to get rid of him in the initial release. Make him downloadable later

Plus 51 is a terrible number for a roster, so 50 or 52 would give a nice even number

Why should that even matter?

 

[Deleted member]

So how about Paper Mario as a newcomer, eh?

 

[BluePikmin11]

So how about Paper Mario as a newcomer, eh?

*Insert multiple responses of that he would be unique, but we can't have more than 6 Mario characters here*

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

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A few of the new character choices and exclusion of Jigglypuff you'll probably question, are more of what I want to see happen.

I'm kinda iffy about Black Shadow and Sami to be honest, other than that it looks just fine.

 

[ZeldaMaster]

Y'know what's funny. People are certain that Mewtwo and Jiggs will be in the roster, and have been speculating a sixth Zelda rep for the last god knows how many pages... and yet we can't have a 6th Mario character? Perhaps Pokemon may get more roster spots than Mario, but in no way do I see Zelda getting more than Mario. So since people have been so adamant about characters like Ghirahim, Vaati, Impa, Pig Ganon, etc.... Paper Mario and Bowser Jr. need more speculation as well, because they are very possible and realistic choices.

 

[Pacack]

Y'know what's funny. People are certain that Mewtwo and Jiggs will be in the roster, and have been speculating a sixth Zelda rep for the last god knows how many pages... and yet we can't have a 6th Mario character? Perhaps Pokemon may get more roster spots than Mario, but in no way do I see Zelda getting more than Mario. So since people have been so adamant about characters like Ghirahim, Vaati, Impa, Pig Ganon, etc.... Paper Mario and Bowser Jr. need more speculation as well, because they are very possible and realistic choices.

And Toad.

If Ridley's not disconfirmed, Toad sure isn't.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Y'know what's funny. People are certain that Mewtwo and Jiggs will be in the roster, and have been speculating a sixth Zelda rep for the last god knows how many pages... and yet we can't have a 6th Mario character? Perhaps Pokemon may get more roster spots than Mario, but in no way do I see Zelda getting more than Mario. So since people have been so adamant about characters like Ghirahim, Vaati, Impa, Pig Ganon, etc.... Paper Mario and Bowser Jr. need more speculation as well, because they are very possible and realistic choices.

Meanwhile I'm in the back not begging for mediocre characters solely to fill in imaginary quotas.

 

[Opossum]

Wolf is kinda a clone so it'd make sense to get rid of him in the initial release. Make him downloadable later

Plus 51 is a terrible number for a roster, so 50 or 52 would give a nice even number

Wolf's far less of a clone than Falco is, in reality. Even then, if cuts were to happen on my roster, Snake and Lucas would go before Wolf.

 

[False Sense]

And Toad.

If Ridley's not disconfirmed, Toad sure isn't.

Well, at least with Ridley, his role is still somewhat ambiguous, and there are alternate forms of Ridley that could be playable if Other M Ridley is a boss hazard.

Toad is an attack.

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

Well, at least with Ridley, his role is still somewhat ambiguous, and there are alternate forms of Ridley that could be playable if Other M Ridley is a boss hazard.

Toad is an attack.

Don't discount the very little effort it takes to change Toad's colour, or change him into Toadsworth. I doubt he will, but it's possible.

 

[Gunla]

Since I haven't done this in a while (since the Direct) this is my new roster. It's designed akin to Melee's CSS.
49 Slots, 4 cuts (Ivy, Squirtle, Snake, Lucas) and Mewtwo as usual. Sal Leak has no influence on me.
13 Newcomers:
-Rosalina & Luma
-King K. Rool
-Greninja
-Takamaru
-Little Mac
-Bandana Waddle Dee
-Palutena
-Chrom
-Villager
-Wii Fit Trainers
-Shulk
-Mega Man
-Pac-Man

 

[False Sense]

Don't discount the very little effort it takes to change Toad's colour, or change him into Toadsworth. I doubt he will, but it's possible.

I find the idea of an alternate color Toad being playable to be very unlikely. I mean, wouldn't that mean that the most iconic form of Toad is unavailable for people to play as? Why would they make him a different color that isn't his most iconic color?

And isn't Toadsworth an entirely different character choice?

 

[Starcutter]

Since I haven't done this in a while (since the Direct) this is my new roster. It's designed akin to Melee's CSS.
49 Slots, 4 cuts (Ivy, Squirtle, Snake, Lucas) and Mewtwo as usual. Sal Leak has no influence on me.
13 Newcomers:
-Rosalina & Luma
-King K. Rool
-Greninja
-Takamaru
-Little Mac
-Bandana Waddle Dee
-Palutena
-Chrom
-Villager
-Wii Fit Trainers
-Shulk
-Mega Man
-Pac-Man

I'd be OK with this roster, but IMO the roster will have 50 characters minimum.

so either un-cut someone or add someone else you like and I'd say it's perfect.

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

I find the idea of an alternate color Toad being playable to be very unlikely. I mean, wouldn't that mean that the most iconic form of Toad is unavailable for people to play as? Why would they make him a different color that isn't his most iconic color?

And isn't Toadsworth an entirely different character choice?

I was referring to changing the attack. He's made it very clear that nothing we see is set in stone just yet.

 

[Pacack]

I find the idea of an alternate color Toad being playable to be very unlikely. I mean, wouldn't that mean that the most iconic form of Toad is unavailable for people to play as? Why would they make him a different color that isn't his most iconic color?

And isn't Toadsworth an entirely different character choice?

Here's the thing, though. Not only are there multiple Toads with that color scheme, but, since Super Mario 3D World had the blue Toad playable instead of the more iconic blue-vested, red capped Toad, Sakurai may have decided to add blue Toad instead.

I mean, the recolors are obvious and don't even have to include the typical "Toad".

I'm pretty sure that most Toad fans would be fine with the above red Toad as a recolor.

 

[Starcutter]

So, what about Professor Layton?

He could be interesting.


...or uninteresting as a marth clone

 

[ultimatekoopa]

1. I could care less about hints. I'm talking about things that make characters prime candidates. Ghirahim doesn't have any major flaws, but there's nothing overly appealing about him, either. Rosalina, for example, brought a new playstyle, which beat out Bowser Jr., Toad, and Paper Mario, all but the latter being mostly well-rounded.

2. Now you've lost me. I'm near certain that every character has been considered in some form or another, and Ghirahim would be no exception.

3. Those sources seem a bit vague to me, but they're still helpful in proving your point. The only thing that concerns me, as pointed out in the comments section, is the lack of a digital sales count. Those could be crucial, or, more likely, they could not be. Another thing, though, is that it only followed portable games. It's no shocker than PH and ST did better than it's successors because the 3DS alone did pretty badly until last year's boost. Even then, though, I doubt it comes close to comparing to the DS. Seeing the charts for the US would make me more comfortable with these sources, and also charts for the console games as a whole. Also, Tingle's "hatred" has yet to be confirmed. Ultimately, it can't be proven one way or the other, so we should stop debating him and agree to disagree.

4. You just contradicted yourself. He doesn't care about which series deserves reps, but you insist on giving characters to series that don't need any more because they're larger than the others.

1. Ghirahim can still be an interesting and unique character, he can be a 2 sword user (sonething that we lack) or his ability to make his body harder than metal can also bring something interesting
2. You are saying that if ghirahim appears but he doesn't appear in other zelda game then his addition would have been worthless but if sakurai wanted to add him as a newcomer but cared about that (which is probably not the case) then he can simply ask Eiji about it
3. Agreed
4. What I was trying to say if that Sakurai has shown so far that he only cares that the new character can be unique, fun to play as, very doubtful he is gonna stop adding a newcomer because x series already has y characters unless another character from a new series can take this character moveset

 

[False Sense]

Since I haven't done this in a while (since the Direct) this is my new roster. It's designed akin to Melee's CSS.
49 Slots, 4 cuts (Ivy, Squirtle, Snake, Lucas) and Mewtwo as usual. Sal Leak has no influence on me.
13 Newcomers:
-Rosalina & Luma
-King K. Rool
-Greninja
-Takamaru
-Little Mac
-Bandana Waddle Dee
-Palutena
-Chrom
-Villager
-Wii Fit Trainers
-Shulk
-Mega Man
-Pac-Man

Well, for the most part, that roster looks pretty good. Personally, I'd keep Snake and Lucas, but I'll admit that their positions on the roster are a bit shaky. Aside from that, this is a pretty good roster, I think.

...Except for the layout. I mean, why are the Zelda characters all spread out like that? Why are Yoshi and Wario so far from the rest of the Mario-originating characters? I feel like something could be done to make this roster look neater.

 

[Gunla]

Well, for the most part, that roster looks pretty good. Personally, I'd keep Snake and Lucas, but I'll admit that their positions on the roster are a bit shaky. Aside from that, this is a pretty good roster, I think.

The issues regarding Snake make me very cautious. He may go in with a shock reveal at E3, but if it's not there, it's likely leading to a cut.
For Lucas, it's mainly because Nintendo has seemingly left Mother 3 out in the dark, focusing more on Earthbound again. The customization element could easily be used to have Ness take the moveset of Lucas seeing how simialr they were.

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...Except for the layout. I mean, why are the Zelda characters all spread out like that? Why are Yoshi and Wario so far from the rest of the Mario-originating characters? I feel like something could be done to make this roster look neater.

It's meant to be a tad similar to Melee's Roster, with some.. limitations.
Mario and DK on top with Falcon and Ganondorf.
Of course, due to keeping up with the additions, I had to change a few elements. I just felt like trying something new with my roster design and that came into mind. My roster design has... never been conventional, to say the least. (notahipster)

 

[Fire Emblemier]

So, what about Professor Layton?

He could be interesting.

...or uninteresting as a marth clone

Man, Layton sure can wavedash!

 

[False Sense]

So, what about Professor Layton?

He could be interesting.

...or uninteresting as a marth clone

He could be interesting, and I'd really like to see him in. But he's very unlikely.

 

[Deleted member]

All that talk of clouds on the last page....

it's pretty damn obvious who the next Newcomer will be.

 

[FlareHabanero]

All that talk of clouds on the last page....

it's pretty damn obvious who the next Newcomer will be.

Actually, no, we're not going to get a character based on them being in the clouds.

We're going to get a character that IS a cloud.

KRACKO CONFIRMED.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Kracko and Simba too OR RATHER MUFASA would be be pretty awesome as a character actually.

Realistically speaking Kracko could easily be Kirby's stage hazard boss. Could be Whispy too, I suppose, seeing as how we've gotten a two stages with him as a somewhat minor hazard before.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

Perhaps Pokemon may get more roster spots than Mario, but in no way do I see Zelda getting more than Mario.

Really? Cause that's exactly what happened in the last game.

Kracko and Simba too

That's Mufasa.

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

1. Ghirahim can still be an interesting and unique character, he can be a 2 sword user (sonething that we lack) or his ability to make his body harder than metal can also bring something interesting
2. You are saying that if ghirahim appears but he doesn't appear in other zelda game then his addition would have been worthless but if sakurai wanted to add him as a newcomer but cared about that (which is probably not the case) then he can simply ask Eiji about it
3. Agreed
4. What I was trying to say if that Sakurai has shown so far that he only cares that the new character can be unique, fun to play as, very doubtful he is gonna stop adding a newcomer because x series already has y characters unless another character from a new series can take this character moveset

1. That doesn't compare to what Rosalina brought. He brings about as much as any other Zelda choice, excluding Tingle, who easily has the most potential for a fun moveset.

2. Not worthless, exactly, and I've heard you EVERY time you said he could ask Eiji. Don't forget how Eiji may not plan on it. Right now, we should just wait 'till E3 for that.

4. By that logic, we'd have A LOT of Pokemon, and perhaps Fire Emblem characters as well.

 

[Joe D.]

If DLC characters are a thing, I think unique fighters could be within reason. As long as the game is accepted and active, and time is permitting, then I think they could make it happen. Stages and items should be an easier task.

 

[Starcutter]

I think bringing back cut veterans via DLC is a great idea. or pretty much any characters that weren't finished by the release date but had a lot of work done on them already.

those are the 2 scenarios that I'd be OK with.

 

[Rockaphin]

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A few of the new character choices and exclusion of Jigglypuff you'll probably question, are more of what I want to see happen.

I'd prefer Jigglypuff to not return but I understand why people would be upset if she didn't return. Heck Mewtwo replacing Puff would be acceptable.

 

[Starcutter]

so, I made a new roster, anyone want to see it?


cause if nobody wants to see it what's the point of posting it amiright?