Character Discussion Thread

[YoshiandToad]

I've always preferred Groose over Vaati, I just find Vaati alot more likely and deserving, thus I support him more.

I don't know you at all anymore.

 

[Autumn ♫]

We can post rosters here, right? Rate mine!

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I'd add Ike, Snake, and Palutena and replace Jiggly with Mewtwo. I'd probably also add Ridley too.

 

[MAGMIS]

Well we could have said the same thing about Captain Falcon.
Or ROB.
Or Ice Climbers.
Pac-Man has as much to go off of as Sonic, actually.

Point Proven. So far, it seems like the leaker may be right about the newcomers.

 

[Deleted member]

If Mr. Sakurai really wanted to mess with us, he'd give us an obscure Namco rep. Dig-Dug anyone?

I would take Klonoa...in my dreams.

 

[Autumn ♫]

I don't know you at all anymore.

I'd still take Vaati over Groose if I ever had the choice. I just love how much character developement Groose got in Skyward Sword. Heck, if we were going with who I want the most, with no limitations, it'd be Dr.Piccolo.

 

[Gameboi834]

I would take Klonoa...in my dreams.

That aside, I really hope the Gematsu leak is right. I would also love to see Krystal and Dixie Kong.

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

I'd add Ike, Snake, and Palutena and replace Jiggly with Mewtwo. I'd probably also add Ridley too.

Ike is one of the easier ones to let go IMO. It makes sense to have the original Fire Emblem protagonist and the newest one each game.

Snake was one of my favorites, but I really doubt he's returning.

I don't see the appeal in Palutena. I actually find more potential in Dark Pit.

Not replacing Jigglypuff. Besides, Mewtwo's done his time. If he returns, cool. If not, well, whatever. I survived Brawl.

I always did prefer Ridley as a boss.

 

[Andinus]

because I can't think of pacman being in the game whatsoever. I can see him being in there but what moves???????????

Well I can see jack sh*t as far as the future goes and I make no assumptions as far as new comers goes so I don't know, but if I was gonna shoot at sh*t in the dark I would hope to hit Simon Belmont. Anyways, as for my guesses and everyone else's I'd say they probably don't matter cuz chances are we are all wrong and don't even need to think about move sets for our fantasy characters cuz they ain't happening. So why don't you try and think of some moves for him; you know if you can see him in the game after all... I know you don't" think" he is there, but since you "think" he is there throw out some ideas!

 

[TylerBlackRunIt]

We can post rosters here, right? Rate mine!

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This is a good roster but it feel to safe.

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

This is a good roster but it feel to safe.

I try to stay realistic while satisfying my ideas. Most other rosters I see are huge, and I think their creators will be disappointed when the game launches.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Prepare to be gravely disappointed.

Well that's just uncalled for

 

[Louie G.]

I try to stay realistic while satisfying my ideas. Most other rosters I see are huge, and I think their creators will be disappointed when the game launches.

I would say bump the roster up to 48 characters, that's a good number.
Also, Palutena is as safe as you can get.

 

[Leafeon523]

I think the roster has no reason to be below 45 characters. Without sse or transformation characters, I think more time can be devoted to characters and having more newcomers

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

I would say bump the roster up to 48 characters, that's a good number.
Also, Palutena is as safe as you can get.

If it was 48, add Ike... The last two... I'll leave that to you.

 

[TylerBlackRunIt]

If it was 48, add Ike... The last two... I'll leave that to you.

1. Bring back Ike
2. Add Palutena
3. Add Mewtwo

 

[FlareHabanero]

45 characters would inply that either there would be many cuts or few newcomers. Since there is a reluctence to intentionally scrap characters and veterans are being much more prominent with many of them recieving adjustments, we should lean towards the latter.

 

[Substitution]

If it was 48, add Ike... The last two... I'll leave that to you.

Mach Rider and Ditto.
The only two you'll ever need.

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

1. Bring back Ike
2. Add Palutena
3. Add Mewtwo

I still don't understand Palutena's appeal. Kid Icarus has Pit, and that's enough. And yes, I've played Uprising. One of my favorite games for the 3DS.

As for Mewtwo, I'm fine with him staying cut/rejoining. He's done his time, and I survived Brawl.

Mach Rider and Ditto.
The only two you'll ever need.

I don't really like the idea of Mach Rider... Just... Why? I don't see much going here.

I've always liked the idea of characters such as Ditto replacing the Random option.

 

[MAGMIS]

Sakurai mentioned in a interview that he does not want to add too many character because adding a character isn't that simple. It's not addition it's multiplying. Is what he said.

I don't really like the idea of Mach Rider... Just... Why? I don't see much going here.

I've always liked the idea of characters such as Ditto replacing the Random option.

That's an awesome idea about ditto being random instead. However I think ditto may be a pokeball summon because in the direct where it showed the yellow devil there 2 Mario's in one screen. One in the yellow devil explosion and one outside safe from the explosion. The one in the explosion just vanished or could mean destroyed. Also he mentioned somewhere I remember that sakurai wanted to add ditto in brawl but due to wii capabilities he couldn't.

 

[Sonic Poke]

We can post rosters here, right? Rate mine!

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Cool roster, I can live with it.

But I Think you can put more Characters on it. I Think we are going to get more or less 10 newcomer with two cuts, Ivysaur and Squirtle. Put one more row, with Mewtwo, Ridley, Pac Man or Lloyd, Ike and Ridley. Ah, and put Ridley.

EDIT: Palutena. And Ridley.

 

[Substitution]

I don't really like the idea of Mach Rider... Just... Why? I don't see much going here.

He's on a bike. One could do wonders on a bike.
Heck, I'd even settle for Excitebiker. We just need someone with a bike gimmick (and not just for one attack like Wario's Side Special).

 

[FlareHabanero]

Sakurai mentioned in a interview that he does not want to add too many character because adding a character isn't that simple. It's not addition it's multiplying. Is what he said.

That's a fundamental thing for pretty much any fighting game. When you add a new factor to the table, you have to analyze everything to ensure that there won't be complications. As the numbers increase, this task becomes more daunting, hence why as a general rule of thumb is the larger a roster is, the more complicated blance becomes.

 

[MAGMIS]

Cool roster, I can live with it.

But I Think you can put more Characters on it. I Think we are going to get more or less 10 newcomer with two cuts, Ivysaur and Squirtle. Put one more row, with Mewtwo, Ridley, Pac Man or Lloyd, Ike and Ridley. Ah, and put Ridley.

How about all the Nintendo characters for a dream roster.

That's a fundamental thing for pretty much any fighting game. When you add a new factor to the table, you have to analyze everything to ensure that there won't be complications. As the numbers increase, this task becomes more daunting, hence why as a general rule of thumb is the larger a roster is, the more complicated blance becomes.

Yes and I mentioned this to the people that are saying they want to have above 35 char and such.

 

[TylerBlackRunIt]

I still don't understand Palutena's appeal. Kid Icarus has Pit, and that's enough. And yes, I've played Uprising. One of my favorite games for the 3DS.

As for Mewtwo, I'm fine with him staying cut/rejoining. He's done his time, and I survived Brawl.

Takamaru...

 

[True Blue Warrior]

That's a fundamental thing for pretty much any fighting game. When you add a new factor to the table, you have to analyze everything to ensure that there won't be complications. As the numbers increase, this task becomes more daunting, hence why as a general rule of thumb is the larger a roster is, the more complicated blance becomes.

Question- how many would you think is feasible for this game, balance-wise?

 

[TylerBlackRunIt]

I think the roster will be bigger then 45 because Namco is helping out Sakurai with the game.

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

That's an awesome idea about ditto being random instead. However I think ditto may be a pokeball summon because in the direct where it showed the yellow devil there 2 Mario's in one screen. One in the yellow devil explosion and one outside safe from the explosion. The one in the explosion just vanished or could mean destroyed. Also he mentioned somewhere I remember that sakurai wanted to add ditto in brawl but due to wii capabilities he couldn't.

That wasn't a clone of Mario. His marker was on the Yellow Devil because he destroyed it.

Cool roster, I can live with it.

But I Think you can put more Characters on it. I Think we are going to get more or less 10 newcomer with two cuts, Ivysaur and Squirtle. Put one more row, with Mewtwo, Ridley, Pac Man or Lloyd, Ike and Ridley. Ah, and put Ridley.

EDIT: Palutena. And Ridley.

I think 45 is the perfect number. Palutena, like I said, not a big fan of. Don't see much going for her. Ridley is better off as a boss IMO. Not everyone NEEDS to be playable.

Make him the fierce giant dragon thing we know and love.

He's on a bike. One could do wonders on a bike.
Heck, I'd even settle for Excitebiker. We just need someone with a bike gimmick (and not just for one attack like Wario's Side Special).

Them bikes.

Really, if that's the only reason people support him, the game doesn't really need him.

Takamaru...

I'd be cool with him. Seems more like Assist Trophy material to me, since he's not very relevant. No, Nintendo Land doesn't count.

As a fighter, he could end up with a great move set.

 

[MAGMIS]

Question- how many would you think is feasible for this game, balance-wise?

For balance wise 25 characters.

 

[Substitution]

Them bikes.

Really, if that's the only reason people support him, the game doesn't really need him.

It's not just that, there's other reasons (unique, retro rep, not to mention out of the ordinary, something Sakurai loves).

 

[MAGMIS]

It's not just that, there's other reasons (unique, retro rep, not to mention out of the ordinary, something Sakurai loves).

Nice idea mine would be takamaru being included because well I don't know he gives me the kid Icarus vibe like in brawl

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

It's not just that, there's other reasons (unique, retro rep, not to mention out of the ordinary, something Sakurai loves).

Having a guy hopping around on a bike is too much, even for Sakurai's standards. Pulling another Captain Falcon on him like others have suggested would be unoriginal.

I still don't think we need him.

Maybe he can be an enemy in Smash Run. Charges right at you on his bike, u-turns, and goes at it again till you KO him?

 

[Substitution]

Having a guy hopping around on a bike is too much, even for Sakurai's standards. Pulling another Captain Falcon on him like others have suggested would be unoriginal.

I still don't think we need him.

Maybe he can be an enemy in Smash Run. Charges right at you on his bike, u-turns, and goes at it again till you KO him?

How so? He a guy on a bike. And I'm not referring to only using a bike. He could do tricks on it (like preforming kicks and punches on it).

I dunno, I just like the idea. But to each their own I guess.

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

How so? He a guy on a bike. And I'm not referring to only using a bike. He could do tricks on it (like preforming kicks and punches on it).

I dunno, I just like the idea. But to each their own I guess.

Yeah, let's leave it at that. You love the idea, I hate it. No need for long arguments if it'll always be stuck at a deadlock.

 

[MAGMIS]

Anyone think someone from pilotwing 64 being in the game because of the stage/item/symbol shown at the direct.

 

[Deleted member]

I still can't get over Elecman being selected as the Megaman Assist Trophy instead of someone like Bass, Gutsman, Cutman, Protoman, Dr. Wahwee, etc.

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

Anyone think someone from pilotwing 64 being in the game because of the stage/item/symbol shown at the direct.

Animal Crossing had an icon too in Brawl. That means nothing.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Series symbols are only for franchises with stages and or characters.

A franchise with a stage doesn't guarantee a character.

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[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

I still can't get over Elecman being selected as the Megaman Assist Trophy instead of someone like Bass, Gutsman, Cutman, Protoman, Dr. Wahwee, etc.

I think he looks cool.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Question- how many would you think is feasible for this game, balance-wise?

A number like 50 is possible in this scenario, since we have an experienced development team involved and there is always the option of patching if we do get a snag. Though if you wanted a better guarantee, personally I would go lower then that like 25 or 30, though that's just toying with a hypothedical situation.

 

[MAGMIS]

I still can't get over Elecman being selected as the Megaman Assist Trophy instead of someone like Bass, Gutsman, Cutman, Protoman, Dr. Wahwee, etc.

Hey your asking too much
Cuz he gave megaman an AWESOME FINAL SMASH AND DID IT BETTER THAN CAPCOM THEMSELVES.