Character Discussion Thread

[Starcutter]

A summoner-style character WOULD be pretty neat, wouldn't you say?

Maybe he could even include squirtle, Ivysaur and pichu in his moveset

 

[Deleted member]

Oorrrr Pokemon Trainer could use his hands because hes tired of using Pokemon

 

[Starcutter]

Oorrrr Pokemon Trainer could use his hands because hes tired of using Pokemon

"Kept ya waiting, huh?"

 

[JamesDNaux]

He might just be mad enough to do the fighting himself after this.

 

[Sehnsucht]

"Kept ya waiting, huh?"

Metal Gear!
Gotta stop 'em all!
It's my priority!

Metal Gear!
Oh, you're the biggest threat
In a world we must defend!

 

[Starcutter]

Metal Gear!
Gotta stop 'em all!
It's my priority!

Metal Gear!
Oh, you're the biggest threat
In a world we must defend!

Don't think that's going to be topped anytime soon.

 

[Starbound]

New topic: Who would would you honestly rather have, the long awaited, demanded Mewtwo or the nostalgic, 3-time veteran Jigglypuff?

Mewtwo

Jigglypuff does nothing for me at this point.

 

[SomewhatMystia]

New topic: Who would would you honestly rather have, the long awaited, demanded Mewtwo or the nostalgic, 3-time veteran Jigglypuff?

Depends on the how changed up they are. If Mewtwo plays like he did in Melee and Jiggs like he does in Brawl, then...

Probably Jigglypuff.

But if they made Mewtwo feel like this badass psychic dude or gave Jigglypuff some Fairy moves... Then probably Jigglypuff anyway, because Fairy moves seem like they could be fun.

 

[Starbound]

Seriously, there has to be some better way of having six Pokemon slots on the roster than putting Jigglypuff off to the side like that...

Align series horizontally instead of vertically ala Melee.

I think a Snake reveal would be an awesome E3 event. "Kept you waiting huh?" and then he owns the rest of the cast

 

[AEMehr]

Viable? Ariand, I don't mean to be so dismissive, but I don't like to endlessly debate arguments that are completely unreasonable. What's the point? If you aren't going to listen to reason then why should I try to keep convincing you? There is simply nothing else I can say besides Luma is less counted as a playable character by Sakurai than Nana is.

I'm not sure how a character with an essentially complete moveset won't be considered a fighter by it's creator.

Your point is that Luma counts as the sixth Mario character and thus there does not need to be another in order to have Mewtwo and Jigglypuff present. Nana is a character you can ACTUALLY play as. You can select Nana from the select screen, you can move her at all times, command her attacks at all times, and she's not disposable and she is NOT counted as one of the 39 characters.

My point was that it's asinine to say that Pokémon can't have six characters when we previously were expecting seven.
The suggestion that Luma may be considered as a separate character was merely food for thought, not me saying that since Mario officially has six characters Pokémon can have six characters too.

The difference between Nana and Luma is that one is a carbon copy of one character while the other is completely different. It's far from a clone of Rosalina.

Luma is a small little star species with a limited move set being controlled by Rosalina, constantly has to be re spawned with different variations of it's species despite not being KO'd, and is clearly not treated by Sakurai during the direct as a fully different character that can be defined as "playable", but rather Rosalina's aid. Just because Luma has more attacks, doesn't make it anymore a playable character than Pikmin.

It's far more playable than a Pikmin. You press a button, the Luma does something. It's just as much as a playable character as Nana is.

If you want to count her as a sixth Mario character, perfectly fine. But, to claim that Sakurai does is just ridiculous. There's nothing else I can say to you. I'm not going to argue with you and counter the same arguments with the same arguments if you refuse to accept it by any zany means necessary and defining any living being on the battlefield that exclusively is influenced by one character, to be officially counted by Sakurai as a playable character.

I'm sure the team will consider any character that goes through an incredibly similar process to the main playable characters as a playable character of sorts.
Regardless my point was to say that having more than 5 Pokémon characters is fine and that it may be the probable situation.

Well, I was more or less referring to the games that are more of Rareware's content. Maybe Donkey Kong 64 itself was a bad example, but that doesn't change that he doesn't care about Diddy Kong Racing DS and Star Fox Adventures at all.

To be fair, Tricky and Krystal were in Brawl in some capacity. That is essentially all the content from SFA that was needed. Diddy Kong Racing in the other hand is a slight disappoint, a stage would be pretty neat imo.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

@ AEMehr
I like how he seems to have ignored all of my responses to him entirely, avoiding the mechanical aspect of the moveset argument (when that's essentially what you and I are arguing in the first place). Not sure who should feel more insulted here: Me for being ignored, or you for him thinking your logic is easier to break than mine or his own.

 

[Xiivi]

Figured I might as well post my roster at last, after having a few days to analyze.
This is my best case scenario where only PT/Ivy/Squirt and Snake (sorry, Scoliosis, but if he isn't at E3 or August (given the game isn't out by then, he's a goner unless they really hid a third party.) is cut. 49 slots and movesets.

Newcomers:
-Villager, Mega Man, Wii Fit Trainers, Rosetta, Little Mac and Greninja have already been confirmed.
-King K Rool
-Bandana Waddle Dee
-Chrom
-Shulk
-Takamaru
-Palutena

Bandana Waddle Dee is the one who I have least confidence in in your newcomer picks; even with the changes to King Dedede.

The estimated release date helped me guesstimate how many characters we'll have before reveal and I used that to guesstimate the total number of characters in the game based on Sakurai's updating habits from Brawl. I ended up coming out with a roster like this:

The halved characters I'm still torn on. Although I actually think there's plenty of possible variance. I used 6 boxes of 9 for my layout. This of course goes by the main leaks, which are iffy at best. Still it seems like a very plausible roster to me now.

 

[Pacack]

Bandana Waddle Dee is the one who I have least confidence in in your newcomer picks; even with the changes to King Dedede.

The estimated release date helped me guesstimate how many characters we'll have before reveal and I used that to guesstimate the total number of characters in the game based on Sakurai's updating habits from Brawl. I ended up coming out with a roster like this:

The halved characters I'm still torn on. Although I actually think there's plenty of possible variance. I used 6 boxes of 9 for my layout. This of course goes by the main leaks, which are iffy at best. Still it seems like a very plausible roster to me now.

Why, hello Mr. Admin. I'm curious, is there a reason you see four Fire Emblem newcomers? That's the big thing that sticks out to me. It's also fairly large, at 52 characters. I take it you're optimistic on how many characters the game's going to have overall?

 

[Shroob]

If I might ask, where do people get the colored boxes like that? The roster maker offers no such thing.

 

[Chandeelure]

Figured I might as well post my roster at last, after having a few days to analyze.
This is my best case scenario where only PT/Ivy/Squirt and Snake (sorry, Scoliosis, but if he isn't at E3 or August (given the game isn't out by then, he's a goner unless they really hid a third party.) is cut. 49 slots and movesets.

Newcomers:
-Villager, Mega Man, Wii Fit Trainers, Rosetta, Little Mac and Greninja have already been confirmed.
-King K Rool
-Bandana Waddle Dee
-Chrom
-Shulk
-Takamaru
-Palutena

This looks awesome!
Just add Pac Man and Dillon instead of Mewtwo and Takamaru and you will have a copy of my roster XD

 

[Pacack]

If I might ask, where do people get the colored boxes like that? The roster maker offers no such thing.

Custom icons. When making the icon, the background of the default icon is removed and replaced with a solid color. When the character artwork is added, a shadow is put with it instead of an outline.

Pretty simple, but looks cool.

 

[Shroob]

Custom icons. When making the icon, the background of the default icon is removed and replaced with a solid color. When the character artwork is added, a shadow is put with it instead of an outline.

Pretty simple, but looks cool.

Is there a collection of them somewhere?

Sry for the off topic.

 

[Pacack]

Is there a collection of them somewhere?

Sry for the off topic.

Go to the SSB4 Roster Maker and I think some of the galleries linked in the second(?) post have a ton.

 

[CalumG]

What if - hear me out - they put in Pokemon Trainer as a fighter?

...but as an actual fighter, who runs around the stage throwing rocks and riding bikes and summoning Pokemon (Zelda Phantom style) to perform iconic HM's for him.

I ain't saying it's a new idea and I'm definitely not saying it's a good one, but man would this throw people off even more with their predictions. Make it so, Sakurai.

 

[Sovereign]

What if - hear me out - they put in Pokemon Trainer as a fighter?

...but as an actual fighter, who runs around the stage throwing rocks and riding bikes and summoning Pokemon (Zelda Phantom style) to perform iconic HM's for him.

I ain't saying it's a new idea and I'm definitely not saying it's a good one, but man would this throw people off even more with their predictions. Make it so, Sakurai.

I second the **** out of this post.

Bird Jesus for his UpB - "Fly"
Bellsprout or someone with sharp apendages for his SideB - "Cut"

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I'm gonna stop... The idea is amazing, though.

 

[CalumG]

I second the **** out of this post.

Bird Jesus for his UpB - "Fly"
Bellsprout or someone with sharp apendages for his SideB - "Cut"

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I'm gonna stop... The idea is amazing, though.

Cut could also work on Villagers trees!

He could have Rhydon for Strength (a Smash Attack perhaps?) and when he falls into water, a Lapras appears underneath him to keep him afloat as his swimming animation.

I think we're on to something here. :v

 

[Radical Bones]

New topic: Who would would you honestly rather have, the long awaited, demanded Mewtwo or the nostalgic, 3-time veteran Jigglypuff?

Jiggs for sure. I love playing as that little puffball. If it were Mewtwo, Pokemon would be trying too hard to be bad***. Not all Pokemon need to be fully evolved, mean looking monsters. Although, Mewtwo would be a nice legendary rep... Personally, I'd leave Charizard out if anyone.

 

[Gunla]

If I might ask, where do people get the colored boxes like that? The roster maker offers no such thing.

Ariand/AEM and ecylisis make them in the Roster Maker Thread. Add-Ons, if you will.

The halved characters I'm still torn on. Although I actually think there's plenty of possible variance. I used 6 boxes of 9 for my layout. This of course goes by the main leaks, which are iffy at best. Still it seems like a very plausible roster to me now.

There can be plently, but this is a fine roster. Definitely a best case roster if cuts are minimal.
And usage of the halves is pretty smart (and pretty comical. Jigglanke, Ridlon. )
Though the Chorus Men is primarily being added via the leaks from what i can tell, so I'm still iffy on it.

 

[Pazzo.]

Well, as long as we're all breaking out our rosters, I might as well bring out mine. Give me a few minutes, I'm revising it now.

 

[TumblrFamous]

To be honest, I'm really liking the idea of Chibi-Robo. I think he has an excellent shot of getting in the game.

 

[Gunla]

To be honest, I'm really liking the idea of Chibi-Robo. I think he has an excellent shot of getting in the game.

Now that would be cool. I loved the series in my childhood.
I just feel like Chibi might end up an AT this time around, like this really bad gut feeling. In 6 (seeing how the Wii U iteration is the new 5) I think he'll be material for a character, definitely.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Now that would be cool. I loved the series in my childhood.
I just feel like Chibi might end up an AT this time around, like this really bad gut feeling. In 6 (seeing how the Wii U iteration is the new 5) I think he'll be material for a character, definitely.

Yeah, I would say the same, but only if Chibi stays relevant in the time between, about 4-8 years, is my guess.

 

[Pazzo.]

Here's my roster. The newcomers are:

-King K. Rool
-Rosalina and Luma (confirmed)
-Greninja (confirmed)
-Little Mac (confirmed)
-Dillon
-Chrom
-Isaac
-Palutena
-Mii
-WFT (confirmed)
-Mega Man (confirmed)
-Villager (confirmed)
-Takamaru

I'm a little on the fence on Dillon.

It's a tiny bit bigger than I would have liked (50 characters, 13 newcomers), but it's what I made. Rip it apart guys!

Please note that this is NOT my Wish Roster. Prof. Layton would replace Isaac if it where.

 

[Kenith]

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Here's my roster. The newcomers are:

-King K. Rool
-Rosalina and Luma (confirmed)
-Greninja (confirmed)
-Little Mac (confirmed)
-Dillon
-Chrom
-Isaac
-Palutena
-Mii
-WFT (confirmed)
-Mega Man (confirmed)
-Villager (confirmed)
-Takamaru

I'm a little on the fence on Dillon.

It's a tiny bit bigger than I would have liked (50 characters, 13 newcomers), but it's what I made. Rip it apart guys!

Please note that this is NOT my Wish Roster. Prof. Layton would replace Isaac if it where.

Okay, let's see...

King K. Rool...obvious. Even more so now that Kremlings are in Smash Run.
Dillon. I don't think he's quite there yet. I definitely see him as AT material.
Chrom...obvious choice also, no complaints but not my personal pick.
Isaac. I prefer him to the other popular RPG hero people are requesting, nothing else to say but that he'd be a good addition.
Palutena...obviously obvious choice.
Mii...No. No, no, no. Just...no.
Takamaru...Eh. I don't really have an opinion on him, I don't think a retro is necessary at this point.

 

[Pazzo.]

Okay, let's see...

King K. Rool...obvious. Even more so now that Kremlings are in Smash Run.
Dillon. I don't think he's quite there yet. I definitely see him as AT material.
Chrom...obvious choice also, no complaints but not my personal pick.
Isaac. I prefer him to the other popular RPG hero people are requesting, nothing else to say but that he'd be a good addition.
Palutena...obviously obvious choice.
Mii...No. No, no, no. Just...no.
Takamaru...Eh. I don't really have an opinion on him, I don't think a retro is necessary at this point.

I only chose the Mii as a prediction. I DO NOT want him in, I just think its likely.

Besides, Pac-Man or the Mii? See what I mean?

 

[Kenith]

I only chose the Mii as a prediction. I DO NOT want him in, I just think its likely.

Besides, Pac-Man or the Mii? See what I mean?

I really don't think Pacman belongs in Smash, but I still take a dozen Pac-Mans over Miis.

 

[Pazzo.]

I really don't think Pacman belongs in Smash, but I still take a dozen Pac-Mans over Miis.

Really? Well, I'd hate ether one, but I hate the Mii slightly less.

 

[Leafeon523]

I've seen a more talk about Issac lately after the last smash direct. What do you think his chances are of getting in? Also, is it feasible for him and Shulk to be introduced in the same game?

 

[AncientTobacco]

I've seen a more talk about Issac lately after the last smash direct. What do you think his chances are of getting in? Also, is it feasible for him and Shulk to be introduced in the same game?

Who's Issac?

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Anyways, what's everyone's opinion on Ivysaur and Squirtle? Personally, being an optimistic person, I feel that they were also separated, but not revealed like ZSS and Sheik.

Also, Pacman is the lesser of the 2 evils for me, as Mii's aren't that interesting, imo

I've seen a more talk about Issac lately after the last smash direct. What do you think his chances are of getting in? Also, is it feasible for him and Shulk to be introduced in the same game?

If he survives PotD's till April 17th or E3, I'd say he's playable.

 

[Kenith]

Really? Well, I'd hate ether one, but I hate the Mii slightly less.

Well, besides that, I think the fact that all of their supposed "home stages" are from different universes, and an actual Mii was present in the Find Mii stage is working against them.

If you don't like them, you don't need to have them in your roster.

 

[Substitution]

Well, besides that, I think the fact that all of their supposed "home stages" are from different universes,

I will say this real quick.

ROB's home stage in Brawl was "Mario Bros". So there are exceptions.

 

[AncientTobacco]

Anyways, what's everyone's opinion on Ivysaur and Squirtle?

I'm glad that they're cut and other gens got some representation in the form of Greninja.

 

[Curious Villager]

Anyways, what's everyone's opinion on Ivysaur and Squirtle?

I'm going to wait it out for some more information for now. Like when Sakurai talks about charizard or the other used-to-be-transformations characters and tells us more about how it all pans out, don't want to jump the gun again.

So at this point of time, I don't really have much of an opinion on those two yet.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

I'm glad that they're cut and other gens got some representation in the form of Greninja.

Yet, they're are only in danger of being cut, they're not out of the game, yet, as far as we know.

I'm going to wait it out for some more information for now. Like when Sakurai talks about charizard or the other used-to-be-transformations characters and tells us more about how it all pans out, don't want to jump the gun again.

So at this point of time, I don't really have much of an opinion on those two yet.

same, but at least staying positive.