Character Discussion Thread

[Diddy Kong]

I meant the fanbase, which has slots so far shoved up their *** they think Zelda and Sheik should be counted as the same character because of it.

"We need a 5th Zelda character!"

And it would be all fine if we just got Impa instead of Sheik.

 

[Miffa]

I'll make it topical: Yes it would solely be for the IPs but then we'd get Banjo in Smash and all my dreams would come true. ^o^

More realistically, I hope they scoop up Sega and Capcom. They've both got large stables of characters that'd be neat in Smash, and it would save future titles from scraping the bottom of the barrel.

don't worry im in the same boat Banjo would be amazing in smash and maybe even Conker with out the m rated stuff of course. Sega and Capcom are both companies Nintendo could buy and probably revive IPs they don't use anymore and hopefully Nintendo wouldn't make 200 versions of the same street fighter game .

 

[FlareHabanero]

And it would be all fine if we just got Impa instead of Sheik.

Which would of accomplished absolutely nothing.

 

[Deleted member]

So what exactly is Capcom situation? I do remember that the financial report in September, 2013 revealed that while they had little money, they had a load of assets and little to no debt. Have things changed for the better/worse?

 

[Diddy Kong]

Which would of accomplished absolutely nothing.

It would have accomplished more than damn Burst Grenades at least...

 

[Bowserlick]

We have enough ninjas now. No Impa.

 

[Diddy Kong]

We have enough ninjas now. No Impa.

Impa could still serve as a sort of monk-archetype fighter. But yeah, Greninja happened and now all has gone to ****.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

To be fair Diddy, Impa hardly had much as far as a fan base. Although neither did Greninja.

No use complaining about it now that it's already happened.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

In that case, there's only one real choice:

I highly doubt that they'd bother to take back Rare from Microsoft, SEGA would be cheaper

 

[Diddy Kong]

I highly doubt that they'd bother to take back Rare from Microsoft, SEGA would be cheaper

Cheaper doesn't equal better. Quite the opposite.

 

[N3ON]

So what exactly is Capcom situation? I do remember that the financial report in September, 2013 revealed that while they had little money, they had a load of assets and little to no debt. Have things changed for the better/worse?

Really the only IP of theirs still making notable profits is MH... but I would assume they're still bleeding through their funds considering it'd be hard for a company that size to subside on a profitable game here and there amidst dwindling revenue in many other areas.

The time for Nintendo to snatch them up is fast approaching methinks. No telling if it'll actually happen though.

I highly doubt that they'd bother to take back Rare from Microsoft, SEGA would be cheaper

In no way would a dev studio with around 200 people be more expensive to buy than an international company with over 2000 employees and IPs like Sonic the Hedgehog, even if Rare is owned by M$. That just means it'd be up to M$ if they wanted to sell off the studio or not.


This buyout talk isn't really on topic though.

We have enough ninjas now. No Impa.

We only have two...

 

[Diddy Kong]

Not only that, but probably a lot of the old Rare staff would come back to work for Rare if Nintendo would buy them back.

 

[shrooby]

I highly doubt that they'd bother to take back Rare from Microsoft, SEGA would be cheaper

Maybe I just don't understand business at all, but...
wouldn't the smaller company with less IPs cost less than the company that has a more IPs (One of them, as I'm sure you're aware, is Sonic the freakin' Hedgehog of all things.) and runs on a significantly larger scale?
That question was rhetorical. I know that Rare would be cheaper. The hype is getting to your head. But neither are going to be bought out any time soon as much as I am saddened to say.

 

[Substitution]

You were the only one to bring up multiple reps for those series....

...I swear I've been here before.
But anyway I understand that. I was just using an example.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Not only that, but probably a lot of the old Rare staff would come back to work for Rare if Nintendo would buy them back.

doubtful. They'd have to probably get new producer's at least.

anyways I did have a food for thought

There was a Sakurai and Co quote that went along the lines (or that got thrown around) going "Hey, I'd love to put more new characters in, but there really wasn't many" or something like that from newer series? Maybe that's another reason why we're seeing more "New" characters. Just a thought I figure I'd throw out.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Maybe I just don't understand business at all, but...
wouldn't the smaller company with less IPs cost less than the company that has a more IPs (One of them, as I'm sure you're aware, is Sonic the freakin' Hedgehog of all things.) and runs on a significantly larger scale?
That question was rhetorical. I know that Rare would be cheaper. The hype is getting to your head. But neither are going to be bought out any time soon as much as I am saddened to say.

It's not about hype. I would love to see Banjo playable, but Rare is doing a lot better with Microsoft, so no, Rare would not be cheaper than SEGA. It would be easy for Nintendo to acquire SEGA due to them being a part of their history, and the very good strong ties between the two.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

rare has far less IP's than sega has and can't even dream of reaching that even without atlus, and while rare is owned by M$, sega is owned by sega-sami (probably not spelled right)

moving on guys

 

[True Blue Warrior]

doubtful. They'd have to probably get new producer's at least.

anyways I did have a food for thought

There was a Sakurai and Co quote that went along the lines (or that got thrown around) going "Hey, I'd love to put more new characters in, but there really wasn't many" or something like that from newer series? Maybe that's another reason why we're seeing more "New" characters. Just a thought I figure I'd throw out.

Seems like good news.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Seems like good news.

It's not really much of news as much of stating the obvious given if the leaks go through that we'll have 6 new nintendo franchises at least.

...on the opposing hand, it actually might be good news for the likes of Dillon, Isaac, and Takamaru even with 12 newcomers on our hands already.

 

[N3ON]

anyways I did have a food for thought

There was a Sakurai and Co quote that went along the lines (or that got thrown around) going "Hey, I'd love to put more new characters in, but there really wasn't many" or something like that from newer series? Maybe that's another reason why we're seeing more "New" characters. Just a thought I figure I'd throw out.

He said something along the lines of there not being many feasible characters from series post-Pikmin and pre-Brawl roster creation (so basically late 2001 - late 2005) iirc. And to his credit, we haven't seen any new playable series added from that specific time period...

It's not about hype. I would love to see Banjo playable, but Rare is doing a lot better with Microsoft, so no, Rare would not be cheaper than SEGA. It would be easy for Nintendo to acquire SEGA due to them being a part of their history, and the very good strong ties between the two.

are you a troll

 

[Thirdkoopa]

He said something along the lines of there not being many feasible characters from series post-Pikmin and pre-Brawl roster creation (so basically late 2001 - late 2005) iirc. And to his credit, we haven't seen any new playable series added from that specific time period...

Yeah - That is pretty interesting now if you add it up to how this game seems to be leaning. I guess it's more than just being marketing when you really think about it.

Hey, Isaac and Olimar were probably the only feasible one, especially new ones.

 

[Arcanir]

Really the only IP of theirs still making notable profits is MH... but I would assume they're still bleeding through their funds considering it'd be hard for a company that size to subside on a profitable game here and there amidst dwindling revenue in many other areas

If it ever gets to that, I hope they at least snatch up Mega Man, Pheonix Wright and Monster Hunter.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

are you a troll

NO!

 

[Baskerville]

This thread is an absolute mess.

 

[shrooby]

It's not about hype. I would love to see Banjo playable, but Rare is doing a lot better with Microsoft, so no, Rare would not be cheaper than SEGA. It would be easy for Nintendo to acquire SEGA due to them being a part of their history, and the very good strong ties between the two.

Rare is not doing better. Unless you're trying to say that most of Rare's original employs left because they wanted worse jobs.
Historical ties would not interfere with the fact that those SEGA executives would want a lot more than Rare executives for their company. SEGA is much much much larger than Rare.
Like, it can't be stressed enough how much larger. SEGA is an international company with headquarters in many other countries. SEGA own several IPs. SEGA owns other companies.
But, really, this discussion is completely irrelevant. I'd recommend dropping it.

 

[Gune]

This thread is an absolute mess.

Still better than the old RPDT.

 

[Substitution]

This thread is an absolute mess.

Nah. It's just a typical weekday.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Do you have good reason to believe otherwise?

Higher demand for him to come back ever since he was cut in Brawl, I think Sakurai is probably going to bring him back because of it. He already has his reasons and merits to come back, there should be no reason Mewtwo shouldn't be back in the SSB4 roster.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Rare is not doing better. Unless you're trying to say that most of Rare's original employs left because they wanted worse jobs.
Historical ties would not interfere with the fact that those SEGA executives would want a lot more than Rare executives for their company. SEGA is much much much larger than Rare.
Like, it can't be stressed enough how much larger. SEGA is an international company with headquarters in many other countries. SEGA own several IPs. SEGA owns other companies.
But, really, this discussion is completely irrelevant. I'd recommend dropping it.

I'm sick of this Rare and Sega discussion! I'm going in the bathtub! I AM SHOUTING.

are you a troll

I've noticed that Cliffjumper seems to take things literally and doesn't sense sarcasm and wit like some others here. Just be aware of that.

The way you said that with no caps and period made me chuckle.

Higher demand for him to come back ever since he was cut in Brawl, I think Sakurai is probably going to bring him back because of it. He already has his reasons and merits to come back, there should be no reason Mewtwo shouldn't be back in the SSB4 roster.

Hear, hear.

Mewtwo is also just as iconic if not moreso, than Charizard, (being the original "post-game superboss", starring in the first movie, and being the first legendary Pokemon to have a backstory) and has lots of merit outside of Melee and Smash Bros in general.

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[False Sense]

Higher demand for him to come back ever since he was cut in Brawl, I think Sakurai is probably going to bring him back because of it. He already has his reasons and merits to come back, there should be no reason Mewtwo shouldn't be back in the SSB4 roster.

I know that there's no reason for him not to be on the roster at this point... I'm just pessimistic about Mewtwo making it in now that we already have Greninja.

 

[arceus9000]

Charizard and Greninja is in here, am I the only one who thinks Sceptile needs to be apart of this? Gen 1, 3 and 6 for fire, grass and water???

 

[Substitution]

So, how 'bout that Olimar?
While I think only having three Pikmin was a questionable choice, I'm glad he at least now has a recovery.

 

[The Light Music Club]

I'm sick of this Rare and Sega discussion! I'm going in the bathtub! I AM SHOUTING.


I've noticed that Cliffjumper seems to take things literally and doesn't sense sarcasm and wit like some others here. Just be aware of that.

The way you said that with no caps and period made me chuckle.


Hear, hear.

Mewtwo is also just as iconic if not moreso, than Charizard, and has lots of merit outside of Melee and Smash Bros in general.

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Debatable. At least from what I know, at my school when kids joke about pokemon they ALWAYS mention Charizard or Pikachu, not Mewtwo.

 

[Baskerville]

As for Mewtwo, with all the exposure he's gotten after Brawl and now, it makes a ton of sense to bring him back.

Still better than the old RPDT.

No, it really isn't.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Charizard and Greninja is in here, am I the only one who thinks Sceptile needs to be apart of this? Gen 1, 3 and 6 for fire, grass and water???

No, the whole internet has suggested Sceptile ever since Greninja showed up.

Am also part of this, so...

 

[Substitution]

Charizard and Greninja is in here, am I the only one who thinks Sceptile needs to be apart of this? Gen 1, 3 and 6 for fire, grass and water???

Only if we get a 2nd gen rep.
Because 1 x 2 x 3 = 6.



(I suck at humor.)

 

[BluePikmin11]

So, how 'bout that Olimar?
While I think only having three Pikmin was a questionable choice, I'm glad he at least now has a recovery.

4 Pikmin would have at least made it better in my eyes.

 

[N3ON]

Yeah - That is pretty interesting now if you add it up to how this game seems to be leaning. I guess it's more than just being marketing when you really think about it.

Hey, Isaac and Olimar were probably the only feasible one, especially new ones.

Technically as GS came before Pikmin that statement doesn't really apply to Isaac, but it is strange at the relative lack of feasible new series (that actually have a chance) from the previous decade compared to ones before it.

NO!

Well then you're wrong. About many things in that statement. I doubt you will find one person, not counting those that still work at Rare or M$ that agree Rare is better off now.
Second, Rare was purchased by M$ for $375 mil, even with inflation they're not worth that anymore. Sega's net profit per year is roughly $500 mil on average. A company isn't going to be bought for less than it can sustainably profit annually.
Just because Sega might be easier to purchase by no means means they'd be cheaper.

Now get back on topic and try not to talk so much about things you know little about.

So, how 'bout that Olimar?
While I think only having three Pikmin was a questionable choice, I'm glad he at least now has a recovery.

The decrease in Pikmin could be due in part to programming limitations.

No, it really isn't.

It definitely is. Intermittent discussion about Sega and Rare isn't nearly as bad as posts consisting of nothing but Spongebob gifs.

 

[Gingerbread Man]

So whats everyone's opinion on squirtle and ivysaur?
If they're disbanding transformations, i would think charizard being solo should be expected along with the other two.

 

[Substitution]

4 Pikmin would have at least made it better in my eyes.

Well, I'm not sure.
If he can still function with only three, there shouldn't be an issue.
My only problem is with the possible projectile (and maybe even grab) game he's inherited. Where now you'll have to be a bit more sparing.