More late responses, but oh well...
You could say Little Mac isn't varied enough when it comes to attacks, that he just punches people.
Well Marth shouldn't be considered viable for the same reason, all he does is swing his sword.
Of course, Earthbound has already proven that a franchise could get more characters even if it's already got what it "needs".
Besides, the same reasoning you put for F-Zero could easily be applied to Star Fox.
Like I said before, he's got the potential to be a character that focuses on manipulating his opponent. Something I can't say any other current character is able to do. He wouldn't need to pull an entire moveset out of the whazoo for Black Shadow either.
I'd like Black Shadow for the potential he has, not because he's an F-Zero character (And this is coming from someone who's only played F-Zero on the GBA and gave up playing after 3 races).
I'd imagine Mega Man's inclusion has brought in the same consideration and thought process that Snake and Sonic did with their fans. But Pac-Man doesn't have such a diverse fanbase as these three characters do. In reality, who would stop what they were doing and buy a Wii U in anticipation to play as Pac-Man in the new Smash? Not a lot.
And that is the issue with putting the effort into adding Pac-Man in the game, he isn't going to determine if people are going to get the game or not.
Still, there's no reason for their to be a Punch-Out!! stage without a character. It doesn't make nearly as much sense as the other 5 stages do.
Neato.I guess so, I'm always trying to rearrange my roster anyway.
I'm not a Donkey Kong, Metroid, Fire Emblem, or Golden Sun fan; but I still respect the chances the characters from these franchises have.The leak being fake isn't the sole reason he isn't on here, like I've explained countless times, I'm not a Punch Out fan, and I just don't see Little Mac as a shoe-in.
I'm not comparing him to Marth when it comes to where they are in their respective franchise, I'm comparing the two in a gameplay standpoint (Even then, Little Mac still is the face of Punch-Out!!).Can't really compare him to Marth though, since Fire Emblem is a huge franchise and Marth is pretty much the face of it.
You could say Little Mac isn't varied enough when it comes to attacks, that he just punches people.
Well Marth shouldn't be considered viable for the same reason, all he does is swing his sword.
I can easily say the same thing about Star Fox, Earthbound, Kid Icarus, Metroid, and even Legend of Zelda for their own variety of reasons.I feel that F-Zero doesn't need anyone else, it's a racing game, and Captain Falcon already represents the whole of it, and not even accurately. I feel that if Black Shadow got in, he'd just take Falcondorf's moveset while Ganondorf himself got a new one. Krystal on the other hand, has a load of moveset potential that Sakurai wouldn't really have to make up, and I don't want her because she's a Star Fox character, but because of the character herself.
Of course, Earthbound has already proven that a franchise could get more characters even if it's already got what it "needs".
Besides, the same reasoning you put for F-Zero could easily be applied to Star Fox.
"F-Zero doesn't need anybody else, it's a racing game."
Star Fox doesn't need anybody else, it's an on-rails shooter with three characters that already accurately represent the types of vehicles you pilot. Not even accurately either, as none of their abilities are even done by themselves in their own canon.
As for Black Shadow becoming Falcondorf, as plausible as this situation is Black Shadow still has several unique abilities at his disposal.Star Fox doesn't need anybody else, it's an on-rails shooter with three characters that already accurately represent the types of vehicles you pilot. Not even accurately either, as none of their abilities are even done by themselves in their own canon.
Like I said before, he's got the potential to be a character that focuses on manipulating his opponent. Something I can't say any other current character is able to do. He wouldn't need to pull an entire moveset out of the whazoo for Black Shadow either.
I'd like Black Shadow for the potential he has, not because he's an F-Zero character (And this is coming from someone who's only played F-Zero on the GBA and gave up playing after 3 races).
As I said before, I don't see this happening again this time around. Unlike during Melee's development-cycle, the game isn't entirely Japanese focused. The worldwide release of the Brawl Dojo and the Pic of the Day for this game should be alerting the concept that the Sakurai may actually consider the western user base.Well, Marth and Roy were Japan only, hell, Roy hadn't even been in his game yet. It's just that Sakurai personally likes Panel de Pon and he knows people want Lip, so there's at least some substance there.
The issue is not who the character is, it's if their inclusion will be worth the extra effort to bring in more consumers. Snake has an entirely different fanbase from the general Nintendo franchise's crowd. People flocked to the Wii for Brawl for just this one character, as the same with Sonic.Pac-Man is still an iconic character, and if Sakurai took a chance on Snake, I can see him taking a chance on Pac-Man.
I'd imagine Mega Man's inclusion has brought in the same consideration and thought process that Snake and Sonic did with their fans. But Pac-Man doesn't have such a diverse fanbase as these three characters do. In reality, who would stop what they were doing and buy a Wii U in anticipation to play as Pac-Man in the new Smash? Not a lot.
And that is the issue with putting the effort into adding Pac-Man in the game, he isn't going to determine if people are going to get the game or not.
Ah, wasn't entirely sure if you were referring it to that like that.I was just pointing out that stages don't need characters, I understand why those stages are there, I'm just saying that a Punch Out stage =/= Little Mac.
Still, there's no reason for their to be a Punch-Out!! stage without a character. It doesn't make nearly as much sense as the other 5 stages do.
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