Character Discussion Thread

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

A certain third-party whose name begins with an S.

Spoiler

Sorry, but just hearing that made me think of Shadow the Hedgehog.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Spoiler

Sorry, but just hearing that made me think of Shadow the Hedgehog.

Well, it seems like Cliff took over M&SG's account.

 

[Gune]

So, here we are.
The final hours till the Direct.

Agonizing...

Fixed.

 

[Substitution]

Fixed.

Eh, I'm fine.
I'm not in a hurry.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Well, it seems like Cliff took over M&SG's account.

I SAW THAT!!! That was truly uncool!!!

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Well, it seems like Cliff took over M&SG's account.

The staff would've known if my account got hijacked if the IP address of that post didn't match that of my other posts. Even staff members have to show some humor every now and then.

 

[Substitution]

The staff would've known if my account got hijacked if the IP address of that post didn't match that of my other posts. Even staff members have to show some humor every now and then.

But then, how do we know?...

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

The staff would've known if my account got hijacked if the IP address of that post didn't match that of my other posts. Even staff members have to show some humor every now and then.

My point exactly. Messing with moderators would be the last thing I'd ever do.

 

[Deleted member]

You really don't know how to take a joke, do you?

 

[Substitution]

You really don't know how to take a joke, do you?

I still think it's some joke we're all missing.
It's gotten to the point where it's just comical.

This has to be an act, there's no other explanation.

 

[Deleted member]

I still think it's some joke we're all missing.
It's gotten to the point where it's just comical.

This has to be an act, there's no other explanation.

I know people like this irl.
...I don't think he's kidding.

 

[Substitution]

I know people like this irl.
...I don't think he's kidding.

I'm just trying to remain optimistic.

Though, it's not like him and jokes are two separate entities. Just when it's not "Jesus Grandma" apparently.

 

[IsmaR]

We're not here to point out the obvious. This is why mods can't make jokes.

Indeed, either this may break what we understand about the game or confirm the reality of what we expect, all left to been seen now.

I'm not seeing the downside here. I look forward to already reminiscing on how wrong and silly we were.

 

[Substitution]

We're not here to point out the obvious. This is why mods can't make jokes.

No, I've seen a couple good jokes by mods.

Though to be fair, it's harmless for the most part.
The worst was a time where he tagged a mod to help explain a situation that were really just sarcastic posts that weren't to be taken seriously.

But if that's the worst, then there shouldn't be too much of an issue.

 

[IsmaR]

harmless for the most part.

Your definition of harmless irks me. As does your dancing around the topic (as in not one of your posts in the last couple of pages has had anything to do with character discussion). And in an effort to point out I don't want to drag this out with your inevitable response, I'll stop replying here.
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Oddly enough, I feel the thing I would be most looking forward to is more in depth look on all the revealed newcomers. I'd love to see a full match to see how the likes of Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, Rosalina, and Little Mac play.

And if all expectations be damned, then a 3rd party match with Mario, Mega Man, Sonic, and Snake.

 

[Substitution]

I predict at least one newcomer no one expected.
Cause why not?

 

[Gune]

Honestly I'm expecting to see some FS's I'm dieng to see who got revamped and so on especially for DK, Lucario, Pit (too see if palutena is still in it.)

 

[Stenton]

I predict at least one newcomer no one expected.
Cause why not?

I would like to see this. Everyone keeps saying that '[Person]' will be shown first then '[Person]' afterwards.

Just give me another Wii Fit Moment.

 

[BKupa666]

I feel that's blowing it out of proportion. When you put all these jumbles of playstyles as "options", it leads the big question: can't anyone have a huge number of playstyle options if you dig deep enough? I mean, you see Dixie Kong as just "hits you with hair, shoots you with gum", and yet there's a very obvious route in the semi-grappler archetype and the poker archetype (which, unless one of the Newcomers counts, would be a first for Smash). Aside from that, there is also feasibility to take into account. It doesn't make a lick of difference if someone can do a ****ton if it wouldn't work within the confines of Smash. In example, "bullet hell"? (Which Mega Man already seems to cover anyway) Do we really need a super heavyweight that you can't even approach since he can just spam multitudes of projectiles that pack a punch and are hard to avoid?

Ironically, Miis have near infinite potential even when compared to your listings of K. Rool. So really, the problem isn't that they're bland; it's that they do not interest you enough to think of anything that doesn't make them seem bland. Which is ok, it's your viewpoint.

Yes, anyone can have a playstyle, but from my perspective, they don't come as naturally with some other characters as they do with Rool, nor do some characters have as many options as he does before it becomes a stretch. Which is okay, because all it takes is one playstyle option in the end, it's more just a matter of having broad appeal to the fanbase as a candidate. Balance is, of course, key; if K. Rool got bullet hell, for example, he'd have to be near defenseless at melee range, or too slow to fend off most characters anyhow.

Miis have infinite potential to bring out the many props from Wii shovelware, but what do all of them amount to? It's either prop-spamming, which I feel is adequately done with Game & Watch and Villager, or a completely random customizable moveset, which I believe will end up eating up too much development time all for a mediocre final result (see: Stage Builder).

 

[Baskerville]

I predict at least one newcomer no one expected.
Cause why not?

Caeda
If only.

 

[Pacack]

I predict at least one newcomer no one expected.
Cause why not?

Nintendo's Joker for SSB4! You heard it here first, folks.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I've been stalking's Takahashi's wife's profile and I see no tweet about the Direct. I guess we have to wait longer for a Shulk reveal.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

You really don't know how to take a joke, do you?

It wasn't funny!

 

[FalKoopa]

I see what happened in this page and the last.

Now calm down, CliffJumper. Don't take it that seriously.

 

[N3ON]

I've been stalking's Takahashi's wife's profile and I see no tweet about the Direct. I guess we have to wait longer for a Shulk reveal.

I recall people saying it was taken down. Ofc I haven't checked in the first place, so I can't confirm things either way.

Nintendo's Joker for SSB4! You heard it here first, folks.

And I thought my jokes were bad.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I recall people saying it was taken down. Ofc I haven't checked in the first place, so I can't confirm things either way.
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You're right, it definitely was taken down. She's one sly she-devil alright. https://twitter.com/sorayasaga/status/452422712183386112

 

[Pacack]

And I thought my jokes were bad.

I'm actually only kind of joking. It's one of the few characters from Nintendo's toy era that they still use today.

From the official Nintendo of Japan site.

Something of note, though, is that there are actually two variants of the Joker that are common. The second is less obviously a Joker, though.

 

[Arcanir]

You're right, it definitely was taken down. She's one sly she-devil alright. https://twitter.com/sorayasaga/status/452422712183386112

Actually, that was the original tweet everyone's referring to, all she said was that she was looking forward to Smash info and of course speculation went from there.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Four hours left.

 

[N3ON]

Four hours left.

Countdowns are better off in the Direct thread.

I'm actually only kind of joking. It's one of the few characters from Nintendo's toy era that they still use today.

From the official Nintendo of Japan site.

Something of note, though, is that there are actually two variants of the Joker that are common. The second is less obviously a Joker, though.

See, well, but I was making a Joker joke...

That said, I think no matter how well they would work, any character based on cards made by Nintendo is wishful thinking.

 

[IsmaR]

If nothing else we need a card-dealer Luigi alternate costume. Too bad he gave up his gambling habits to become a doctor.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Meanwhile the guys at /v/ are extremely hyped for the inclusion of Wonder Red.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't like the idea, but at the same time I'm not going to be reckless.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

If nothing else we need a card-dealer Luigi alternate costume. Too bad he gave up his gambling habits to become a doctor.

I agree, it was Luigi in that specific mini game who taught me how to play poker.

 

[Pacack]

See, well, but I was making a Joker joke...

That said, I think no matter how well they would work, any character based on cards made by Nintendo is wishful thinking.

Of course. I'm not delusional enough to think it stands a chance of becoming playable. It's just an interesting idea.

 

[Deleted member]

Yes, anyone can have a playstyle, but from my perspective, they don't come as naturally with some other characters as they do with Rool, nor do some characters have as many options as he does before it becomes a stretch. Which is okay, because all it takes is one playstyle option in the end, it's more just a matter of having broad appeal to the fanbase as a candidate. Balance is, of course, key; if K. Rool got bullet hell, for example, he'd have to be near defenseless at melee range, or too slow to fend off most characters anyhow.

Fair enough.

Miis have infinite potential to bring out the many props from Wii shovelware, but what do all of them amount to? It's either prop-spamming, which I feel is adequately done with Game & Watch and Villager, or a completely random customizable moveset, which I believe will end up eating up too much development time all for a mediocre final result (see: Stage Builder).

Actually, I envision more of a style based on where Miis really shine; Mii Plaza.
>Using guns from Monster Manor; able to switch to different types (kind of like how people envisioned Mega Man working)
>Using magic from Find Mii or alternatively, summon a Wandering Hero to use magic or to attack directly
>Summon soldiers from Warrior's Way to overpower opponents
>Bring in Mercenary pods from Mii Force to fire at opponents

All while using a Play Coin system; you collect Play Coins the longer you're in the match, and by summoning forces to fight, you use up the Coins.

Of course, there's also things like Pilotwings Resort and Tomodachi Collection to work with, but that's mainly recovery for the former and whatever works for the latter (haven't researched the title and am kind of hesitant to do so).

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

So much Palutena, Ridley, K. Rool, and Mewtwo, and yet someone else is begging for the spotlight too...

If you want an unexpected newcomer, Bowser Jr. would be one example to keep in mind as well.

 

[Pacack]

Actually, I envision more of a style based on where Miis really shine; Mii Plaza.
>Using guns from Monster Manor; able to switch to different types (kind of like how people envisioned Mega Man working)
>Using magic from Find Mii or alternatively, summon a Wandering Hero to use magic or to attack directly
>Summon soldiers from Warrior's Way to overpower opponents
>Bring in Mercenary pods from Mii Force to fire at opponents

All while using a Play Coin system; you collect Play Coins the longer you're in the match, and by summoning forces to fight, you use up the Coins.

Of course, there's also things like Pilotwings Resort and Tomodachi Collection to work with, but that's mainly recovery for the former and whatever works for the latter (haven't researched the title and am kind of hesitant to do so).

I would actually be very happy with this. No customization necessary except maybe different sizes.

 

[Substitution]

Look, while I like Bowser Jr.

I'd rather have someone else take his place. Like Dr. Mario.

 

[Pacack]

Look, while I like Bowser Jr.

I'd rather have someone else take his place. Like Dr. Mario.

I'd rather we get Toad. Finish off the quintet of 3D World protagonists.

 

[Substitution]

I'd rather we get Toad. Finish off the quintet of 3D World protagonists.

I'm gonna be honest here.
A chance at another Mario newcomer was thrown out the window when Rosalina became said character.

At least Dr. Mario has a chance with him being a veteran.