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TheLastJinjo

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You know, you're really insane and biased. You're right, you're not going to change my mind by being close-minded and judgmental of things you don't know/can't prove.
Who am I judging and what is I am not knowing or unable to prove?-
You know what. Don't even answer that. I don't want to get into this again.

Oh, this isn't going to end well, is it...
Take your helmet off. I'm not gonna waste my time getting into another Lucina argument.
 
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The only sense of satisfaction I get from reveals are from ones that I care about. I wouldn't necessarily feel any satisfaction from someone like...(It's hilarious that I can't think of a no-hoper to use right here, because all of them have at least one fan and I don't necessarily like insulting people. Oh, Smashboards, your reasoning is silly.)...I dunno, a Goomba/Koopa duo, despite how "underrated" they may be.

And no, underrated should not refer to any character that isn't Ridley, K. Rool, Mewtwo, or Palutena. Underrated is a subjective term (to an extent), just like overrated.
I didn't mean picking obscure character ideas solely to be a try hard, I meant more so picking solid characters that you think would be fun and would actually play as without being too pressured by what is exactly likely. Because let's face it, what is exactly likely is fairly subjective and in the past what was considered likely was proven false.

In other words, yes, stuff you care about, not what is solely seen as expected.
 

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I expect 3 veterans: Yoshi, Mewtwo, and Snake. All deserve to be revealed in a special direct made especially for Smash.
 

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A Mii reveal is very possible.
I just find some of the person more suited for the Direct.
Not because they are hyped up or anything, just because there's a lot that goes in their favor.
Palutena - Sakurai's been setting this one up for a while.
Takamaru - Nazo No Murasamejou anniversary, also a great counter for Mac.
Shulk - Tweets don't lie.
Tom Nook - My oddball choice. Read my arguments before. And have you all noticed that the past two pics were on Smashville? :troll:
 

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Look on the bright side, tomorrow could be the day that a lot of FE related debates ends up being addressed.
Actually, now that you brought it up, how likely is it actually that we'll see a Fire Emblem newcomer tomorrow? I see it a lot around here, but with the low amount of content Fire Emblem has received so far in Smash 4, compared to other series like Metroid or Kid Icarus, it just doesn't seem like they're... I suppose "ready" for a new Fire Emblem character, perhaps? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we won't get any new Fire Emblem character in the game at all, but I'm just not convinced that now is the time to get one.
 

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Uh, yeah he would be. A guy who actually has stands out from Marth more and has magic to be more unique and was actually significant, appearing in two games.

This sarcasm of yours just comes off as rather silly and ignorant to me. I take your sarcasm just as seriously as I would if you said "Oh, sure! King K. Rool is MUCH more important than the main villain of Tropical Freeze ." It's so ironic because what you expect is to silence me as if it were a rhetorical question. When funnily, the answer to your strange question is a simple and direct: Yes.

But, what's even more ironic is that I expect that it doesn't need an explanation, but to the majority of Smash fans it's all about recency and internationalism automatically triumphing over significance and recurrence. So the mere thought of a Japan Only character in Smash or someone who doesn't live up to your bias and personal views on what YOU and people on YOUR side think should happen, results in you scratching your head and acting like me even bringing up a more significant character is "Highly unorthodox" because he's not muh recent.

But, I don't expect to change your mind. So I'll just leave it at this:
Yes. Of course he is. :rolleyes:
chill out dude it's just smash speculation
 

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I can't be the only one who's preparing myself for the possible disappointment of a Mii reveal, right?

...right?
Prepared not only for the reveal, but for the flood of mindless acceptance that is sure to follow. The Mii does not magically become better as a concept, just because it's staring us soullessly in the face.
 
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A Fire Emblem newcomer tomorrow is certainly possible considering they are all characters from different installments, where as stuff like Dixie would have to come after Diddy. But, I still don't think we'll see a newcomer before Ike.
 

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Actually, now that you brought it up, how likely is it actually that we'll see a Fire Emblem newcomer tomorrow? I see it a lot around here, but with the low amount of content Fire Emblem has received so far in Smash 4, compared to other series like Metroid or Kid Icarus, it just doesn't seem like they're... I suppose "ready" for a new Fire Emblem character, perhaps? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we won't get any new Fire Emblem character in the game at all, but I'm just not convinced that now is the time to get one.
Fire Emblem got the same amount of content as Punch-Out!! did before Little Mac was revealed.
 

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Prepared not only for the reveal, but for the flood of mindless acceptance that is sure to follow. The Mii does not magically become better as a concept, just because it's staring us soullessly in the face.
They'd have to pull something really impressive with the Mii to get me to like it. And if a top contender was snubbed for them, I'd dislike them regardless. Just don't like 'em.
 

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Prepared not only for the reveal, but for the flood of mindless acceptance that is sure to follow. The Mii does not become magically better as a concept, just because it's staring you soullessly in the face.
To be fair though.
Characters generally look much better when in the game rather than just a concept.

They'd have to pull something really impressive with the Mii to get me to like it. And if a top contender was snubbed for them, I'd dislike them regardless. Just don't like 'em.
Maybe I can find a way.
 
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Who am I judging and what is I am not knowing or unable to prove?-
You know what. Don't even answer that. I don't want to get into this again. Take your helmet off. I'm not gonna waste my time getting into another Lucina argument.
So you sarcastically tell me that my most wanted character has absolutely no potential and then backpedal when I present any form of counter-argument?
If you didn't want to start another Lucina argument, the start thing to do would've been to never respond to me talking about her in the first place.
I don't understand why you find it necessary to patronize people for supporting characters you don't agree with.
 

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Fire Emblem got the same amount of content as Punch-Out!! did before Little Mac was revealed.
Fair point, but that was a character representing an entirely new series. Something like that is to be expected. I think for the most part they would keep the stuff from new series being represented a secret until their character is revealed. On the other hand, it just seems odd that they would show off a new character the an already present series that hasn't been getting much attention so far.

I will admit though, it's very hard to say what works and what doesn't work when it comes to adding characters to pre-represented series, since the only character we've gotten like that is Rosalina. We don't have much to go off of, to say the least.
 

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They'd have to pull something really impressive with the Mii to get me to like it. And if a top contender was snubbed for them, I'd dislike them regardless. Just don't like 'em.
They'd have to do something really impressive with the Mii to get me to not despise ever fiber of its being in Smash. Nothing the Mii can do will make me like it, ever, no matter what the "soooo unique" sycophants predict. It'll be mild dislike at the very best.

Tom Nook is happening tomorrow only in the dreams of one or two people.
 
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So a lot of people think Paper Mario could get in as his own IP (which I think is stupid). But, if those people exist, then why is it that NOBODY predicts Baby Mario as a Yoshi IP?
 

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Fair point, but that was a character representing an entirely new series. Something like that is to be expected. I think for the most part they would keep the stuff from new series being represented a secret until their character is revealed. On the other hand, it just seems odd that they would show off a new character the an already present series that hasn't been getting much attention so far.

I will admit though, it's very hard to say what works and what doesn't work when it comes to adding characters to pre-represented series, since the only character we've gotten like that is Rosalina. We don't have much to go off of, to say the least.
Hey, we can only speculate based off reasonable deduction based on what has already happened and how it could affect things in the future. And personally, I feel this would be a logical time to reveal a FE newcomer.

They'd have to do something really impressive with the Mii to get me to not despise ever fiber of its being in Smash. Nothing the Mii can do will make me like it, ever, no matter what the "soooo unique" sycophants predict. It'll be mild dislike at the very best.

Tom Nook is happening tomorrow only in the dreams of one or two people.
But Bkupa, the hard-working Sakurai always gives you characters you never knew you wanted!:troll:
 
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They'd have to do something really impressive with the Mii to get me to not despise ever fiber of its being in Smash. Nothing the Mii can do will make me like it, ever, no matter what the "soooo unique" sycophants predict. It'll be mild dislike at the very best.

Tom Nook is happening tomorrow only in the dreams of one or two people.
Creativity like this as a recovery move:
 

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They'd have to do something really impressive with the Mii to get me to not despise ever fiber of its being in Smash. Nothing the Mii can do will make me like it, ever, no matter what the "soooo unique" sycophants predict. It'll be mild dislike at the very best.
Maybe I can help.
I've said this somewhere else, and it fits here.

See, I'm okay with Miis. But like many of you, I'm one against the idea of customization.
So, what if we make Mii it's own character. That's it.
Nothing else. No customization, no changing the Mii's face. It's its own character.
Heck, we already have a look:
 

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Maybe I can help.
I've said this somewhere else, and it fits here.

See, I'm okay with Miis. But like many of you, I'm one against the idea of customization.
So, what if we make Mii it's own character. That's it.
Nothing else. No customization, no changing the Mii's face. It's its own character.
Heck, we already have a look:
It's a damned if you do or damned if you don't situation.

You either got to break the game or make the most soulless character ever.
 
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We shall see, my friend.
But when Tom Nook is revealed tomorrow, and he's amazing, it was Louie G who called it. ;)
I think you are supporting him too soon he is unlikely for this game but he will be much more likely for the next game
 

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Rosalina did.
Not to Toad fans, she sure didn't. But really, there's no comparison between a character like Rosalina and a concept like the Mii. People can't dress Rosalina up to resemble anyone, ever, and parade her around online to troll others. Rosalina can't possibly devour as much development time through stupid customizability or multiple body types. Even at her worst, Rosalina would have been the second female magic-user on the roster (she's one of a kind, now), whereas there are two existing diminutive prop-spammers on the roster already.

@ BluePikmin11 BluePikmin11 A generic controllable recovery, like those of Pit and ROB...I'll pass, thanks.
 

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I really can't (realistically) see Tom Nook as anything more than a semi-clone.

Although he is, at least, not just Villager with a ponytail.
 
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Not to Toad fans, she sure didn't. But really, there's no comparison between a character like Rosalina and a concept like the Mii. People can't dress Rosalina up to resemble anyone, ever, and parade her around online to troll others. Rosalina can't possibly devour as much development time through stupid customizability or multiple body types. Even at her worst, Rosalina would have been the second female magic-user on the roster (she's one of a kind, now), whereas there are two existing diminutive prop-spammers on the roster already.

@ BluePikmin11 BluePikmin11 A generic controllable recovery, like those of Pit and ROB...I'll pass, thanks.
You're just embracing your shield. :smirk:
 
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