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So long as 'underrated' isn't a blanket term used to describe any character outside of the Elite 4, Chrom, and Pac-Miis, I agree.
 
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Black Shadow is kind of residing in that underdog territory.

Not many predict F-Zero getting a Newcomer, after all.
 

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If it's not any character outside of the Elite 4, Chrom, and Pac-Miis, then I won't feel any satisfaction mainly because the newcomers are very easy to guess. :p
 
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If it's not any character outside of the Elite 4, Chrom, and Pac-Miis, then I won't feel any satisfaction mainly because the newcomers are very easy to guess. :p
Wouldn't it technically be a good thing that the newcomers are easy to guess? I mean, typically the ones we most expect are the ones we most want (except for Miis, and maybe Pac-Man).
 

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Wouldn't it technically be a good thing that the newcomers are easy to guess? I mean, typically the ones we most expect are the ones we most want (except for Miis, and maybe Pac-Man).
It's good, but I don't really feel any satisfaction when jumping to predict the obvious. I love want the more underrated like Layton and Sable to make it because most people don't really predict them, therefore I get better satisfaction from the reveal.
 
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It's good, but I don't really feel any satisfaction when jumping to predict the obvious. I love the more underrated like Layton and Sable to make it because most people don't really predict them, therefore I get better satisfaction from the reveal.
I can relate to that. But more than anything, I get satisfaction from seeing characters I want in the game. Who cares if everyone expected them to be in? It's not like I'm going to shrug off a reveal of Mewtwo just because it was predictable.
 

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I can relate to that. But more than anything, I get satisfaction from seeing characters I want in the game. Who cares if everyone expected them to be in? It's not like I'm going to shrug off a reveal of Mewtwo just because it was predictable.
I suppose you have a point, but I lean to liking more of the (Smashboards definition of) unlikely more mainly because they are underdogs everyone for some reason pushes away from.
I suppose I have to wait for a "predictable" one that I personally like Shulk or Palutena.
 

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So long as 'underrated' isn't a blanket term used to describe any character outside of the Elite 4, Chrom, and Pac-Miis, I agree.
Well, let's face it, everyone has at least one character that is skeptical in terms of odds but still support it.

In fact I'd normally encourage that sort of thing, because it's a sign of passion, and there is nothing better then the sense of passion. However at the same time I do discourage the "unavoidable" shallow talk, and forced support that discourages others and dismantles discussion.
 

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I suppose you have a point, but I lean to liking more of the (Smashboards definition of) unlikely more mainly because they are underdogs everyone for some reason pushes away from.
I suppose I have to wait for a "predictable" one that I personally like Shulk or Palutena.
People usually have good reasons for not expecting certain characters.

You might want to be careful, though. The characters that are considered unlikely are considered unlikely for a reason. To expect too many of these surprises might open you up to disappointment.
 

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People usually have good reasons for not expecting certain characters.

You might want to be careful, though. The characters that are considered unlikely are considered unlikely for a reason. To expect too many of these surprises might open you up to disappointment.
The ones that I support are mainly the ones that get the most dragging tires, but they at least have the merits, uniqueness, and make sense (Harry is debatable though) at least to be included as playable, unlike Geno, Gooey, or Slippy for example.
 
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I've posted this roster before, but I really like the way it looks. It's got a lot of variety in the characters, everyone has nice colours...and there's a character for everyone.

King K. Rool for crock fans.
Ghirahim for and Lucina for confusing androgyny fans.
Palutena, Rosalina and Wii Fit Trainer for waifu fans.
Little Mac for underdog fans.
Takamaru for people obsessed with other countries' cultures.
Villager for fans of villaging.
Isaac for fans of blond-JRPG swordsman teenagers.
Mega Man for people who openly secretly hope for Nintendo to buy Capcom.
Pacman because wakawakawakawakawakakawakawakawakawakawakawakawaka
 
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I've posted this roster before, but I really like the way it looks. It's got a lot of variety in the characters, everyone has nice colours...and there's a character for everyone.

King K. Rool for crock fans.
Ghirahim for and Lucina for confusing androgyny fans.
Palutena, Rosalina and Wii Fit Trainer for waifu fans.
Little Mac for underdog fans.
Takamaru for people obsessed with other countries' cultures.
Villager for fans of villaging.
Isaac for fans of blond-JRPG swordsman teenagers.
Mega Man for people who openly secretly hope for Nintendo to buy Capcom.
Pacman because wakawakawawaka
Looks like a pretty good roster overall, but I still haven't been convinced that Ghirahim and Lucina are likely characters.
 

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I want to point out that (with my little knowledge of Fire Emblem games outside Sacred Stones and Awakening) that I concede that Chrom's many different occupations could likely be implemented into his move set seeing as he's the only one with different occupations out of him and the veterans. But, I still think it's more likely that he'll be dismissed as too generic. Nonetheless I consider him a somewhat likely candidate.
 

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People usually have good reasons for not expecting certain characters.

You might want to be careful, though. The characters that are considered unlikely are considered unlikely for a reason. To expect too many of these surprises might open you up to disappointment.
I know most characters I support most others don't are "unlikely", especially one in specific.


...however, my intuition is telling me otherwise, that there is going to be a specific one revealed tomorrow. I don't know why, it's just a strange feeling.
 
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I've posted this roster before, but I really like the way it looks. It's got a lot of variety in the characters, everyone has nice colours...and there's a character for everyone.

King K. Rool for crock fans.
Ghirahim for and Lucina for confusing androgyny fans.
Palutena, Rosalina and Wii Fit Trainer for waifu fans.
Little Mac for underdog fans.
Takamaru for people obsessed with other countries' cultures.
Villager for fans of villaging.
Isaac for fans of blond-JRPG swordsman teenagers.
Mega Man for people who openly secretly hope for Nintendo to buy Capcom.
Pacman because wakawakawakawakawakakawakawakawakawakawakawakawaka
So this prediction roster is mainly driven for the fans?
You have more reasons to include them besides just the fans right?
 

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I know most characters I support most others don't are "unlikely", especially one in specific.


...however, my intuition is telling me otherwise, that there is going to be a specific one revealed tomorrow. I don't know why, it's just a strange feeling.
Would that specific newcomer happen to have anything to do with that new avatar of yours, Professor?
 

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I know most characters I support most others don't are "unlikely", especially one in specific.


...however, my intuition is telling me otherwise that there is going to be a specific one revealed tomorrow. I don't know why, it's just a strange feeling.
I'm thinking we'll get at least 2 trailers + Mewtwo as a veteran. Mewtwo I think is kind of inevitable. Maybe Snake as well. I'm also thinking we might see King K. Rool since there was no Dixie on Trah Pickle Frees day and Diddy shortly afterwards and before this direct. But, my bets are mostly on Ridley, if not him, Takamaru, if not him, Palutena.
 
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Because when you have an underrated character confirmed, there is a greater sense of satisfaction.
The only sense of satisfaction I get from reveals are from ones that I care about. I wouldn't necessarily feel any satisfaction from someone like...(It's hilarious that I can't think of a no-hoper to use right here, because all of them have at least one fan and I don't necessarily like insulting people. Oh, Smashboards, your reasoning is silly.)...I dunno, a Goomba/Koopa duo, despite how "underrated" they may be.

And no, underrated should not refer to any character that isn't Ridley, K. Rool, Mewtwo, or Palutena. Underrated is a subjective term (to an extent), just like overrated.
 
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People usually have good reasons for not expecting certain characters.
I don't think many people have good reasons for expecting characters and not expecting characters. I wouldn't say it's a USUAL thing.

I hear dumb stuff like "Pac-Man because Namco" or "anyone from Awakening cuz 'it saved teh frunchiiiiiz!'" and then things like "No that character isn't recent, so recurrence and significance dont matter!" and "that character is a pseudo clones, ain't no pseudo clones in smash, yo!"

Much more usual than you think.
 
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I don't think many people have good reasons for expecting characters and not expecting characters. I wouldn't say it's a USUAL thing.

I hear dumb stuff like "Pac-Man because Namco" or "anyone from Awakening cuz 'it saved teh frunchiiiiiz!'" and then things like "No that character isn't recent, so recurrence and significance dont matter!" and "that character is a pseudo clones, ain't no pseudo clones in smash, yo!"

Much more usual than you think.
Er... Well, I do kind of expect someone from Awakening because it's the most recent game that did very well and saved the franchise. Is that so wrong?
 

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Er... Well, I do kind of expect someone from Awakening because it's the most recent game that did very well and saved the franchise. Is that so wrong?
Recent no. But, because one of 13 installments selling well being the deciding factor of the debate whether to continue and make more installments is not a merit for the characters who had nothing to do with it.
 

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Recent no. But, because one of 13 installments selling well being the deciding factor of the debate whether to continue and make more installments is not a merit for the characters who had nothing to do with it.
I would argue that Lucina did have a factor in the growth of Awakening. Way more so than Chrom. Why?

She is shown as "Marth" in all promotional material of the game, but obviously is not. This mystery generates interest, as Marth is the most iconic character in the series. People, obviously, are going to buy that game.
 

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Yeah, I don't know why I thought Lucina could ever stand out.
In fact, forget her. Leif is a much better choice!

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Uh, yeah he would be. A guy who actually has stands out from Marth more and has magic to be more unique and was actually significant, appearing in two games.

This sarcasm of yours just comes off as rather silly and ignorant to me. I take your sarcasm just as seriously as I would if you said "Oh, sure! King K. Rool is MUCH more important than the main villain of Tropical Freeze ." It's so ironic because what you expect is to silence me as if it were a rhetorical question. When funnily, the answer to your strange question is a simple and direct: Yes.

But, what's even more ironic is that I expect that it doesn't need an explanation, but to the majority of Smash fans it's all about recency and internationalism automatically triumphing over significance and recurrence. So the mere thought of a Japan Only character in Smash or someone who doesn't live up to your bias and personal views on what YOU and people on YOUR side think should happen, results in you scratching your head and acting like me even bringing up a more significant character is "Highly unorthodox" because he's not muh recent.

But, I don't expect to change your mind. So I'll just leave it at this:
Yes. Of course he is. :rolleyes:
 
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It's nice to see Saturn back with some interesting new opinions.
Expecting K. Rool and admitting that Chrom is likely?
I never thought I'd see the day!

It really sucks that I have band practice at the exact same time of the Direct.
I'll just make sure I don't spoil anything for myself until I watch the Direct.
Last minute predictions: Palutena, Takamaru, Shulk, and/or Tom Nook.
 
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Uh, yeah he would be. A guy who actually has stands out from Marth more and has magic to be more unique and was actually significant, appearing in two games. This sarcasm of yours just comes off as rather silly and ignorant to me. Kind of in the same way I would react if someone sarcastically said that "Oh, sure! Palutena is MUCH more important than Dark Pit." It's so ironic because what you expect is to silence me as if it were a rhetorical question. When funnily, the answer to your question is a simple and direct: Yes. But, what's even more ironic is that I expect that it doesn't need an explanation, but to the majority of Smash fans it's all about recency and internationalism automatically triumphing over significance and recurrence. So the mere thought of a Japan Only character in Smash or someone who doesn't live up to your bias and personal views on what YOU and people on YOUR side think should happen, results in you scratching your head and acting like me even bringing up a more significant character is "Highly unorthodox" because he's not muh recent. But, I don't expect to change your mind. So I'll just leave it at this:
Yes. Of course he is. :rolleyes:
You know, you're really insane and biased. You're right, you're not going to change my mind by being close-minded and judgmental of things you don't know/can't prove.
 
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