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The one definite I think is a release date. The game has been in development for years and Sakurai has stated it's going very well, they wouldn't have a direct without a release date.

The second most likely thing is a veteran reveal. I'm thinking Yoshi, Wario or Captain Falcon. There may even be two or three, as they don't require a big, flashy trailer.

The third most likely is a newcomer. Don't get your hopes up for more than one newcomer. The direct may be 20-40 minutes long but this game has plenty of stuff to talk about besides new characters, especially for those who don't closely follow the Dojo or Smash news.

What I hope for is a release date, a veteran and a newcomer. Hopefully the newcomer is something cool to get the fans hyped, as opposed to a more demonstrative one like Mii which'd be more suited to E3.
 

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Here's my new Pre-Direct roster.
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Feel free to ask questions and all that. All of those Random slots are essentially one long Random slot.
 
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@ Louie G. Louie G. pretty much exactly what I expect, great roster. Why did you pick Tom Nook? I'm warming up to the idea myself, because of the amount of AC content with no Nook. If he's not playable or an assist then Sakurai is doing a very good job hiding him away.
 

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@ Louie G. Louie G. pretty much exactly what I expect, great roster. Why did you pick Tom Nook? I'm warming up to the idea myself, because of the amount of AC content with no Nook. If he's not playable or an assist then Sakurai is doing a very good job hiding him away.
Thanks for the compliments, and I knew that Tom Nook was the big kicker in this roster.
I chose Nook for various reasons.

-We just got Isabelle as an assist trophy, and I doubt that Resetti is getting the boot. That's two Animal Crossing assist trophies. Three is certainly pushing it, don't you think?

-We have not yet seen Tom in the background of Smashville. That isn't saying he's not there, but so far it doesn't look like it.

-Nook seemed very interested in Villager's mail. Not sure what it means, but it could very well point to Nook's inclusion.

-The more I think about it, the cooler of a character Tom Nook could be. Whacking people with bags full of bells (thanks @Scoliosis Jones), using furniture as projectiles and for edge-guarding strategy, using his tanooki powers...

-Animal Crossing is a big and popular series, and I think Sakurai realizes that all of this AC content is overdue. Thus a second character is likely. A similar situation happened with Fire Emblem, and Fire Emblem isn't even close to AC in terms of popularity and iconicness.
 
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I decided to do a pre-direct roster as well.



I know it's not the "likeliest" roster by smashboards standards, but here it is.
 
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Actually, in regards to Tom Nook, I did a little research into the Animal Crossing stage and posted my findings in the Tom Nook thread. It's actually rather interesting, I think. I'll repost it here for sake of ease:

So, this whole Tom Nook discussion has made me a little interested in finding out just how likely Tom Nook as a character actually is. Seeing as how we now have an Isabelle Assist Trophy, it seems very unlikely at this point that Tom Nook could appear as an Assist Trophy himself. So that's one possible non-playable role almost ruled out. That leaves, I think, two possibilities. At this point, Tom Nook is most likely either playable, or a background character for the Wii U Animal Crossing stage. I decided to do a little research into what all we've seen out of the background of that stage, and I think I found some information that could prove interesting.

Looking through all the pictures that have shown off the Animal Crossing stage, it seems that there are four total groups of characters that can appear in the background: two groups for the town theme, and two for the city theme. Since very early on after the game was announced, we've known about two of these groups: one group is set in the town and has the characters Wendell, Sahara, and Pelly, the other being set in the city with the characters Crazy Redd, Dr. Shrunk, Gracie, and a Gyroid. In the vast majority of the pictures we've seen since, the characters in the background have either been out of the picture, or have been the same characters we've already seen the the first groups. Recently, however, two new groups of characters have been shown off. A new group of characters in the town could be seen in the picture where Rosalina was knocked unconcious; this group contains, as far as we know, the characters Sable and one of Tom Nook's nephews. Since this groups is smaller than the previous two, and considering that the picture of Rosalina offered only a limited view of the stage, it seems safe to assume that there are more characters in this group that have yet to be shown. The fourth group of characters was shown when the Cuccoo was revealed. This group is found in the city and contains (at least) Frillard and Labelle. Like the last group of characters, this group is likely incomplete due to the small amount of characters and the limited view the picture offers.

However, looking at the recent picture of Isabelle, it would seem that there is, in fact, a third group for the city. Each of the previous city groups had one character (Crazy Redd or Frillard) standing right next to the bust stop post. In the picture of Isabelle, there is no one there. What's worth noting is that this is the first time we've seen the stage at night, meaning that it's very likely that there will be time-exclusive groups. Seeing as how the city apparently has one, it's very likely the town also has it's own group of characters that only appear at night, and it's quite possible that both the city and the town have more than one group for that time.

The conclusion that I think can be reached from this information is that there is still room for Tom Nook to appear as a background character on the Animal Crossing stage. We've seen two groups of characters that seem to be incomplete at this point, and the strong possibility of further groups that only appear at specific times that we haven't seen yet. Based off of that, and considering that there are still plenty of important Animal Crossing characters we haven't seen yet, it seems very possible that Tom Nook could once again appear as a background character, and that we simply have not seen enough of the stage to know of this. Of course, it's also possible that Tom Nook will appear as a playable character. However, the possibility of being a background character is still a strong one as well.

If you'd like to verify this information for yourself, you can find this pictures of the Animal Crossing stage I referenced here: http://smashbros-miiverse.com/stages/city-folk.
 
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When the **** did Nook become so speculated all of a sudden?
He was disconfirmed at the same time that Villager was confirmed.
 
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When the **** did Nook become so speculated all of a sudden?
Sakurai only didn't add an AC rep before now because he didn't think it was possible. After Villager, he opened the floodgates and Tom Nook is strangely absent from any content up until now, which is very irregular.

Tom Nook is by far the most important rep for Animal Crossing, it makes sense he'd be the second character from the series. All signs point to either a very well-hidden background role, an assist trophy (although what part he'd play I don't know) or, looking increasingly likely, a playable character.
 
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When we got Isabelle as an Assist Trophy.

I'm not really sure that's really that big of a boost to his chances, though.
No, it really isn't.

And I find the fact people are taking Isabelle's status as an Assist meaning Nook's non-existent chances have increased exponentially to be quite asinine.
 
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No, it really isn't.

And I find the fact people are taking Isabelle's status as an Assist meaning Nook's non-existent chances have increased exponentially to be quite asinine.
Look at it this way: Tom Nook is the biggest character for AC. He's going to be in somewhere. The longer we go seeing absolutely nothing of Nook, the more likely he is, because there's no way he'd not be in at all.
 
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Sakurai only didn't add an AC rep before now because he didn't think it was possible. After Villager, he opened the floodgates and Tom Nook is strangely absent from any content up until now, which is very irregular.

Tom Nook is by far the most important rep for Animal Crossing, it makes sense he'd be the second character from the series. All signs point to either a very well-hidden background role, an assist trophy (although what part he'd play I don't know) or, looking increasingly likely, a playable character.
Strangely absent from any content?
He was in the first trailer, pondering about the empty envelope Villager left after he went running somewhere at break-neck speed.



As in, disconfirmed.
 
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Strangely absent from any content?
He was in the first trailer, pondering about the empty envelope Villager left after he went running somewhere at break-neck speed.



As in, disconfirmed.
I thought it was obvious I meant game content. The trailers are created entirely for hype and don't really confirm anything besides the character themselves. Although you do have a point that it'd be unusual for Nook to appear in Villager's trailer then his own, but in this case it wouldn't be out-of-character.

Plus as Louie G said, the fact he's so interested in the letter may be a hint.
 

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Sakurai only didn't add an AC rep before now because he didn't think it was possible. After Villager, he opened the floodgates and Tom Nook is strangely absent from any content up until now, which is very irregular.

Tom Nook is by far the most important rep for Animal Crossing, it makes sense he'd be the second character from the series. All signs point to either a very well-hidden background role, an assist trophy (although what part he'd play I don't know) or, looking increasingly likely, a playable character.
Actually, looking at the photos of the Animal Crossing stage, it almost looks like only some background characters were completed for a good amount of development time. It wasn't until fairly recently that we've seen any background characters different from the original ones we've known about since the stages debut.
 

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-Animal Crossing is a big and popular series, and I think Sakurai realizes that all of this AC content is overdue. Thus a second character is likely. A similar situation happened with Fire Emblem, and Fire Emblem isn't even close to AC in terms of popularity and iconicness.
To be fair, that only happened because they needed a last minute clone, otherwise Roy wouldn't ever have made it in.

Not convinced Tom Nook has a chance personally, with fewer newcomer slots to go around this time compared to Brawl it'd be a waste to see AC take two of them imo. If we were to get something like 50 characters, then perhaps, but I highly doubt that.
 
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Look at it this way: Tom Nook is the biggest character for AC. He's going to be in somewhere. The longer we go seeing absolutely nothing of Nook, the more likely he is, because there's no way he'd not be in at all.
Being in "somewhere" doesn't necessarily translate to being playable.
He could be another AT for Animal Crossing; no limit was ever stated.
He could be in the background of the AC stage like in Brawl. Y'know, where he got this treatment while Resetti got AT status.
He could even be part of Villager's FS somehow.

But a playable role? That ship has sailed.
 

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I thought it was obvious I meant game content. The trailers are created entirely for hype and don't really confirm anything besides the character themselves. Although you do have a point that it'd be unusual for Nook to appear in Villager's trailer then his own, but in this case it wouldn't be out-of-character.

Plus as Louie G said, the fact he's so interested in the letter may be a hint.
Strangely absent from any content?
He was in the first trailer, pondering about the empty envelope Villager left after he went running somewhere at break-neck speed.



As in, disconfirmed.
This argument is boring! I'm outta here!!
 
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I thought it was obvious I meant game content. The trailers are created entirely for hype and don't really confirm anything besides the character themselves. Although you do have a point that it'd be unusual for Nook to appear in Villager's trailer then his own, but in this case it wouldn't be out-of-character.

Plus as Louie G said, the fact he's so interested in the letter may be a hint.
He isn't looking at the letter; he's looking at the empty envelope.
Villager ran off with the letter.


EDIT: I'm not trying to come off as an asshole dream killer.
I don't have any problem with Nook, but evidence is heavily against him being playable if not outright proves it, and it's bizarre to me that people are going in the opposite direction with it. Just like the ones that would argue that Toad had not been down for the count when we saw Peach have the Toad Shield again.
 
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Wow, golden, you usually aren't this naive. What's gotten over you today?

It's the hype, isn't it?
 
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Wow, golden, you usually aren't this naive. What's gotten over you today?

It's the hype, isn't it?
So, because I'm not understanding the "Isabelle AT = Tom Nook playable" logic, I'm naïve?
Or is there something more that I don't know about, such as this whole thing being a prank that I'm falling for?
 

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Think of it this way.
Tom Nook is too big of a character in the Animal Crossing universe to be simply a trophy or something.
We have Isabelle as an assist, which normally wouldn't increase Nook's chances, but considering that Resetti is very iconic and well-loved I don't see them ditching him as an assist.
So that's two Animal Crossing assist trophies. I would say there isn't enough room for Nook.
Now if we look at Smashville, we have not yet seen Tom in any footage. It doesn't mean he's not there, but so far it looks like he isn't.
So given Nook's importance to Animal Crossing I find it very plausible due to all of this.
 

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Tom Nook...

I'm not opposed, but there are other things I'd rather see than a second Animal Crossing character.
 

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Tom Nook was a stage element in Smashville in Brawl.

If you'll remember, the background characters were randomized. Us not seeing him there doesn't mean jack. He's actually less important in New Leaf, because his "Primary Shopkeep" role has been taken over by other characters, and he only runs the Real Estate office, which you only use to pay off your loan and customize your house -- something most players don't even do on a daily basis.

I'm fairly sure this Tom Nook speculation is just a phase, just like the Captain Rainbow stuff before it.
 

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So, because I'm not understanding the "Isabelle AT = Tom Nook playable" logic, I'm naïve?
Or is there something more that I don't know about, such as this whole thing being a prank that I'm falling for?
saying he's outright deconfirmed even though the most we have seen of him is in the first smash bros trailer for a couple seconds.... yeah I'd say that's naive.

At this point, the longer he isn't shown as a background element, the greater his chances are. just like Ridley.
 

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Aiy.. I'm confused how all of a sudden Tom Nook is deconfirmed just because he appeared in the trailer. @-@

Tom Nook was a stage element in Smashville in Brawl.

If you'll remember, the background characters were randomized. Us not seeing him there doesn't mean jack. He's actually less important in New Leaf, because his "Primary Shopkeep" role has been taken over by other characters, and he only runs the Real Estate office, which you only use to pay off your loan and customize your house -- something most players don't even do on a daily basis.

I'm fairly sure this Tom Nook speculation is just a phase, just like the Captain Rainbow stuff before it.
Doesn't really stop his importance overall.
 
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Bear in mind that as "big" as Tom Nook may be, he was a BG character in Brawl while Resetti was the Assist.
With that in mind, even if there was some limit on how many ATs there could be per franchise, Isabelle being a new Assist doesn't change a thing for Nook. Like with what happened in Brawl, he can just as easily be a BG character.
 

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Keep in mind that the Mario series have multiple ATs in Brawl, so the same thing could potentially happen to Animal Crossing.
 
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It's just that we haven't seen him as a BG character yet.
When we do my opinion will change. We've had a LOT of Smashville pictures, though.
Keep in mind that the Mario and Earthbound/Mother series have multiple ATs in Brawl, so the same thing could potentially happen to Animal Crossing.
Mother had 2?
And I understand that and I think that AC will get multiple assists.
I just find 3 to be overkill and I think that Resetti will return.
 
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saying he's outright deconfirmed even though the most we have seen of him is in the first smash bros trailer for a couple seconds.... yeah I'd say that's naive.

At this point, the longer he isn't shown as a background element, the greater his chances are. just like Ridley.
He wouldn't even be in the trailer if he was playable.

Unless we're to expect Doc Louis to show up as a fighter now.
 

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saying he's outright deconfirmed even though the most we have seen of him is in the first smash bros trailer for a couple seconds.... yeah I'd say that's naive.

At this point, the longer he isn't shown as a background element, the greater his chances are. just like Ridley.
It's just that we haven't seen him as a BG character yet.
When we do my opinion will change. We've had a LOT of Smashville pictures, though.
I would say though that his chances would only now just start to increase the longer we don't see him. For the longest of time we've only seen the same characters in the background of the Animal Crossing stage. Only recently have we seen anything different. So, the possibility of them hiding Tom Nook is a fairly recent thing, it would seem.
 

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Fire Emblem got two characters because Sakurai needed a last minute clone to pad the roster, which is the only reason we got Roy in the first place. This time, we already have more than enough characters, so newcomers are practically a scarce commodity, there's no way he's going to pad the roster with (new) clones. Aka, Nook does not have the same chance that Roy had, who only got in to pad the roster, not because FE was so big that it needed two characters right off the bat. Even going away from that, it's nothing but straw grasping to think he's going to get in because he just glanced at the letter in Villager's trailer, like thinking one of Krystal, Peppy, or Slippy is going to be in because of that smash taunt where they talked about how they would be down there fighting with Fox and Falco.
 

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He wouldn't even be in the trailer if he was playable.

Unless we're to expect Doc Louis to show up as a fighter now.
.......I can't even believe this reasoning.

he hasn't even been shown in game period. where does it show nook's roll in the game in that trailer? because it doesn't.


Also, we don't expect Doc for other reasons, not cause he was in mac's trailer.
 

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Here's my new Pre-Direct roster.
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Feel free to ask questions and all that. All of those Random slots are essentially one long Random slot.
This is 100% the roster I do, could, and EVER want in Smash. Lets hope hope hope that you're clairvoyant!

Tuesday is going to be a very interesting day indeed.
 

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Alright, Tom Nook glancing at Villager's letter is NOT the reason I have him on my roster.
If you want to read all of my arguments scroll up the page. Try to argue against them instead of the easiest argument to disprove.
 

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To play a bit of devil's advocate, when Super smash Bros. Melee was first shown off we saw Zelda, Ganondorf, Pichu, and Jigglypuff during the CGI cinematic that would later become the opening cinematic, and all of them were confirmed for playable later on. Even if you discount the last minute clones, we still had Zelda and Jigglypuff.
 

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To play a bit of devil's advocate, when Super smash Bros. Melee was first shown off we saw Zelda, Ganondorf, Pichu, and Jigglypuff during the CGI cinematic that would later become the opening cinematic, and all of them were confirmed for playable later on. Even if you discount the last minute clones, we still had Zelda and Jigglypuff.
Thanks for arguing a bit on my side, whether you like Nook or not.
But truthfully we also saw Ridley and Goroh in that trailer, so Nook is basically 50/50.
 
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