Character Discussion Thread

[The Nerd]

Well, you guys don't know when I'm joking apparently! It's just become some kinda catchphrase thanks to you!

You're not making a joke, you're making a reference, and as people who don't watch Josh Jepson, your references are entirely lost on us. Are we meant to parse everything you post as a reference and treat it as such?

Anyways, I've been thinking about Pokemon quite a lot lately, as I've been Nuzlocking Pokemon Y. I feel like Brawl + Mewtwo is too safe, and that Sakurai will pull a fast one on us. Setting aside the messy issue of whether or not all pokemon will make it, who do we think would be a likely Pokemon newcomer? My money would be on Blaziken or Sylveon. Blaziken is one of the most popular starter of all time, even Gamefreak acknowledged that with their event Torchic. Eevee is another insanely popular pokemon, and Sylveon is the only eeveelution to not have a counterpart that would demand equal attention to it. It could also rep the fairy types, which could be cool.

 

[Deleted member]

Smash original character?

Only legit option is the being of "the world beyond" that the Hands are the link to.
Though I've said this already.

EDIT:

I think a play-off of the Mewtwo encounter in Pokemon Origins would work better, only it would feature the Pokemon Trainer and you know...no BS OP Charizard. Also, that music, as awesome as it is, won't get in as it's Anime music. I mean, I want the theme from the F-Zero anime, as much as I know it won't happen.
Regardless, if Mewtwo gets a battle theme, a remix of the Poke-floats theme from Melee would fit him best, as it was his theme in Melee. And in that case...it would probably sound akin to this:

So essentially this:

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Hypothetical question time!

I don't support the idea of "original characters" as part of SSB's roster, but if SSB had an "original character" as part of it's roster, who would you pick?

My vote goes to Tabuu. I think he'd be easy to work into being playable, and has a lot of abilities that would make for a fun moveset.

A slightly smaller version of Master Hand with altered attacks (some of them being altered very significantly)is what I'd like most for a Smash original character, though Tabuu getting similar treatment would be cool as well.

 

[UltimateWario]

ITS A JOKE!!!! ANYTIME I RIP OFF JOSH JEPSON, ITS A JOKE!!!

1. You should know by now that nobody here watches "Josh Jepson", whoever that is.

2. Jokes are supposed to be funny.

 

[AEMehr]

Hypothetical question time!

I don't support the idea of "original characters" as part of SSB's roster, but if SSB had an "original character" as part of it's roster, who would you pick?

My vote goes to Tabuu. I think he'd be easy to work into being playable, and has a lot of abilities that would make for a fun moveset.

The Ancient Minister is already playable, we just need to give him an alternate costume that allows him to wear his robe.

 

[TumblrFamous]

1. You should know by now that nobody here watches "Josh Jepson", whoever that is.

2. Jokes are supposed to be funny.

Z-Snap.

But yes, since no one on here knows Jepson, you have to expect a tendency of people misinterpreting your "jokes".

 

[M23-X0]

Let's talk about a 2nd Wario rep.

When I was checking the number of Wario titles, I figured out that we nearly have as much as Wario games than Metroid (approximatively 20 each).
A lot of people are using this argument when talking about including a Metroid and a DK rep, and this is also true when talking about the number of Star Fox reps.
Why a new Wario rep isn't considered mandatory as much as a new DK or Metroid rep ? I know that the latters have great contenders as Ridley and K. Rool/Dixie, but Wario also have popular picks as Ashley, Mona and Syrup.

In my opinion, the Wario series (Land, Ware) are underrepresented.

 

[Protom]

Original Character?

 

[Parmite]

Phantom Knight = Samurai Goroh? Now hold on their. We don't even know the Phantom Knight is an Assist Trophy.

 

[Substitution]

1. You should know by now that nobody here watches "Josh Jepson", whoever that is.

Actually, I kinda do.
Granted I'm not a huge fan of his works but I'm aware of his existence.

He's just some Youtuber who plays video games like everyone else.
The only thing really setting him apart is his name. Other than that, not much else.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

1. You should know by now that nobody here watches "Josh Jepson", whoever that is.

2. Jokes are supposed to be funny.

1. That's a serious understatement.

2. It was funny!

 

[Substitution]

1. That's a serious understatement.

2. It was funny!

1. You can't expect everyone to know who JoshJepson is. Let alone "Jesus Grandma".

2. Honestly it was really more of a reference instead of a joke.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Not to make you seem less credible, but just the sheer amount of how utterly wrong you are is just horrendous. "Being the only person on your side makes you wrong!" I don't think you'd be saying that on Miiverse or GameFAQ's.

I guess God is real since majority opinion = right. Being the only person on your side doesn't make you wrong. It just doesn't. I don't know how else to stress that it's just a terrible mentality.

You're acting like a child if you believe that.

That may be the worst mentality I've ever heard in my life. And I hear that a lot here. I wasn't going to continue this argument, but that just needs to be said.

IMO Majority of Smash fans don't usually have good speculation skills, we all know that and while Smashboards mostly does, Not everyone is a perfect speculator. I take pride in having a minority position because it shows I'm open minded.

Nice quote from Noah here. Sometimes the person in the minority can have correct views while those with the popular opinion are misguided. I know that feeling, myself being a sort of.... what's the word? I'm a bit embarrassed to say it, but I forgot.
It's not exactly "pariah", but it means something like "someone who doesn't follow with the views of a church or religion".

Let's talk about a 2nd Wario rep.

When I was checking the number of Wario titles, I figured out that we nearly have as much as Wario games than Metroid (approximatively 20 each).
A lot of people are using this argument when talking about including a Metroid and a DK rep, and this is also true when talking about the number of Star Fox reps.
Why a new Wario rep isn't considered mandatory as much as a new DK or Metroid rep ? I know that the latters have great contenders as Ridley and K. Rool/Dixie, but Wario also have popular picks as Ashley, Mona and Syrup.

In my opinion, the Wario series (Land, Ware) are underrepresented.

I think Captain Syrup should be a second character. Both the main Wario games and the Wario Ware series should have representation in Smash with stages, music, and maybe even characters.

The Ancient Minister is already playable, we just need to give him an alternate costume that allows him to wear his robe.

Glad to see someone else wants an Ancient Minister costume. The robe would need some adjustments for the arms, though. That Virtual Boy costume in Project M is also kinda cool.

As for Josh Jepson...he's this let's player who knows Chuggaconroy. I think they've commented on some games together.

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[Staarih]

Why a new Wario rep isn't considered mandatory as much as a new DK or Metroid rep ? I know that the latters have great contenders as Ridley and K. Rool/Dixie, but Wario also have popular picks as Ashley, Mona and Syrup.

In my opinion, the Wario series (Land, Ware) are underrepresented.

This is just my take to it, but when it comes to Smash representation, I feel like DK and Metroid are more deserving of new reps than Wario because of how long they've been in the games (from the very start). Metroid especially - it has basically had Samus, and her only, from the very first game, so someone else (Ridley) is pretty much NEEDED at this point, since Metroid just deserves more attention in my eyes because of how long it's been just Samus in Smash. DK on the other hand could be fine with Donkey Kong and the newest addition Diddy, but with the recent success the DK-games have had, the franchise has skyrocketed and become more recognizable, and people just assume a new rep is justified - me included. It's not always a thing about game sales, but sometimes about recognizability, image and popularity, even if people think that's not the case.

The Wario games on the other hand have always been pretty low profile, at least that's the vibe I'm getting. Wario has only been in Brawl so far, and I think he works as a sole representative of his games, at least right now. When he's been in for a longer period of time, and if his games really become a huge hit in the near future, I can see a new rep added and requested more. I'm sure it'll come to the point when a second Wario-character is considered mandatory - we just need to get some other reps in first haha!

 

[?????????????]

Let's talk about a 2nd Wario rep.

When I was checking the number of Wario titles, I figured out that we nearly have as much as Wario games than Metroid (approximatively 20 each).
A lot of people are using this argument when talking about including a Metroid and a DK rep, and this is also true when talking about the number of Star Fox reps.
Why a new Wario rep isn't considered mandatory as much as a new DK or Metroid rep ? I know that the latters have great contenders as Ridley and K. Rool/Dixie, but Wario also have popular picks as Ashley, Mona and Syrup.

In my opinion, the Wario series (Land, Ware) are underrepresented.

That's a reasonable opinion, and I understand your point. At this point, though, I think it's less about representing the series and just including the more iconic Nintendo characters. We could get secondary Wario characters, but there are even more desired characters in other areas.

For instance, I would not mind Mona, Jimmy T., and Captain Syrup. Mona and Jimmy T. have clear roles as secondary characters to the WarioWare series, and Captain Syrup is, in my opinion, the only notable character besides Wario himself from the Wario Land series.

However, I would simply rather have K. Rool, Dixie Kong, Ridley, and plenty of others before these other Wario characters.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

1. You can't expect everyone to know who JoshJepson is. Let alone "Jesus Grandma".

2. Honestly it was really more of a reference instead of a joke.

1. I know

2. It was meant to be both a reference and a joke

 

[Substitution]

1. I know

2. It was meant to be both a reference and a joke

1. So then why get mad at us if you know it'll miss at times?

2. I got the reference. But the joke part is debatable.

As for Josh Jepson...he's this let's player who knows Chuggaconroy. I think they've commented on some games together.

Chuggaaconroy...
Sounds like a cartoon about trains. I can't be the only one here.
Think of it, there's a train called "Conroy" who's on his way to be the best train there ever was.

...Wow I'm off-topic today!

Glad to see someone else wants an Ancient Minister costume. The robe would need some adjustments for the arms, though. That Virtual Boy costume in Project M is also kinda cool.

I hope alternate costumes is a thing and not just for WFT.
We could end up getting a female Pokemon Trainer this way.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Let's talk about a 2nd Wario rep.

When I was checking the number of Wario titles, I figured out that we nearly have as much as Wario games than Metroid (approximatively 20 each).
A lot of people are using this argument when talking about including a Metroid and a DK rep, and this is also true when talking about the number of Star Fox reps.
Why a new Wario rep isn't considered mandatory as much as a new DK or Metroid rep ? I know that the latters have great contenders as Ridley and K. Rool/Dixie, but Wario also have popular picks as Ashley, Mona and Syrup.

In my opinion, the Wario series (Land, Ware) are underrepresented.

We do not need an extra WarioWare representative, but to play along, I'd say Mona, but honestly, how could she put up a good fight? The only series that need at least one more rep are StarFox, Metroid, Donkey Kong, and Sonic.

 

[Starcutter]

The only series that need at least one more rep are StarFox,

No.


Just. No.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

No.


Just. No.

It can happen. As long as StarFox has less than Mario, then we don't have any problem

 

[False Sense]

On the subject of a second WarioWare rep, I think it's workable. It's an expansive series that has seen some good success, so it make sense to get an extra rep. I'm just not sure who they would add, partially because of a lack of knowledge of the series on my part. My guess would have been Ashley, who's certainly popular and could have an interesting witch moveset, but seeing as how she's an Assist Trophy... I'm going to guess we won't see another WarioWare character this time around. Though I will say that it would be perfectly fine for it to get another rep. Perhaps Ashley will be a prime candidate for SSB5?

...On a side note, how is Star Fox deserving of a 4th rep more than WarioWare deserves a second rep?

 

[Starcutter]

It can happen. As long as StarFox has less than Mario, then we don't have any problem

Starfox should have less than Kirby tbh.

 

[Dinoman96]

The problem with WarioWare is just that all its additional characters are really peripheral. None of them are that more important than each other...and none of them are that important in general. I don't think WW really lends itself well to Smash Bros. characters besides Wario.

 

[Starcutter]

On the subject of a second WarioWare rep, I think it's workable. It's an expansive series that has seen some good success, so it make sense to get an extra rep. I'm just not sure who they would add, partially because of a lack of knowledge of the series on my part. My guess would have been Ashley, who's certainly popular and could have an interesting witch moveset, but seeing as how she's an Assist Trophy... I'm going to guess we won't see another WarioWare character this time around. Though I will say that it would be perfectly fine for it to get another rep. Perhaps Ashley will be a prime candidate for SSB5?

Well, Mona is pretty much the main secondary character, if you get what I'm saying.

Ashley is just too cute, which makes her popular.

 

[BluePikmin11]

None of the Warioware characters stand out to me as playable material, and there is really not much to work with the characters.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

I really hope Sakurai and his team didn't intend for the Wario franchise in Smash to only represent WarioWare...

Some people call it the WarioWare series and talk about WarioWare reps/characters, so I wonder...

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And four Star Fox characters with only one F-Zero character and one or two Metroid characters is kinda odd.

Then again, I think a third Mother character in Smash (Porky) would be cool, so maybe I'm being a silly hypocrite.

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[Chandeelure]

Starfox should have less than Kirby tbh.

We all know who is the solution.

 

[False Sense]

We all know who is the solution.

Do we need a Bandana Dee discussion?

 

[?????????????]

Bandana Dee is pretty cool. I have no qualms with his inclusion, although I would not be particularly hyped.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Starfox should have less than Kirby tbh.

That makes no sense at all.

 

[False Sense]

That makes no sense at all.

Kirby is bigger and has more recent releases than Star Fox.

Kirby > Star Fox.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Kirby is bigger and has more recent releases than Star Fox.

Kirby > Star Fox.

It doesn't matter. Krystal still has a high chance of being playable. We are not likely to get any more Kirby characters.

 

[M23-X0]

I really hope Sakurai and his team didn't intend for the Wario franchise in Smash to only represent WarioWare...

Some people call it the WarioWare series and talk about WarioWare reps/characters, so I wonder...

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And four Star Fox characters with only one F-Zero character and one or two Metroid characters is kinda odd.

Then again, I think a third Mother character in Smash (Porky) would be cool, so maybe I'm being a silly hypocrite.

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This is the problem. The Wario franchise is only represented with WarioWare, whereas it should have Wario Land representations too.
A captain Syrup trophy or assist would be fine imo.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

It doesn't matter. Krystal still has a high chance of being playable.

And your evidence?

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[Starcutter]

It doesn't matter.

Is it just me or is it biased in here?

 

[Deleted member]

None of the Warioware characters stand out to me as playable material, and there is really not much to work with the characters.

Said the guy that pushes for Dr. Kawashima, Nintendog, Prince Sable, Harry, etc.

 

[Substitution]

So, we're talking about Krystal again?
*Sets up chair*
...Go on.

 

[Deleted member]

Krystal discussion?
Ew.

Would rather talk Fire Emblem.

 

[Substitution]

Krystal discussion?
Ew.

I dunno.
This could be something.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

And your evidence?

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Then prepare to bore yourself by reading.
For one thing, Krystal has become a highly popular character since her debut in StarFox Adventures, and never missed a star fox game ever since. And unlike Wolf or Falco, she makes a canon appearance as playable AT THE START of StarFox Adventures. There are also more supporting details such as uniqueness. She will be the most unique StarFox character in the game with her staff.

Neutral B- Fire Blast

Side B- Freeze Blast

Up and B- Rocket Booster

Down and B- Earthquake

Final Smash- Pteranodon Ride Attack

Still reading? Good!
It is worth noting that Falco doesn't make any contribution to the StarFox team in her debut game until the end of the game. And considering how much people want more female involvement, Krystal makes perfect sense. We have two female newcomers out of five total so far, and with the Paultena leak not being debunked for two months, Sakurai may be answering fan desire for more female involvement.

And Sakurai has even hinted Krystal being playable in Falco's taunt codec on the Corneria tier of Lylat Cruise in Brawl. Look it up on YouTube.