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Godzillathewonderdog

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I can see Dixie being added as a last minute semi clone of Diddy, since clone characters are almost always last minute, with a few reasonable exceptions.
 

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Krystal would be the most unique StarFox character, so I'd say her chances are very high!
I disagree. Even if I did think she was unique, Fox and Falco (And I guess Wolf, if he isn't a semi-clone this time around.) Are much more unique to me in character and in playstyle.
 

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I know most of you will hate it, because Bayonetta, Rainbow, and Chibi, but this is my prediction roster.
 

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I know most of you will hate it, because Bayonetta, Rainbow, and Chibi, but this is my prediction roster.
So, considering you brought it up, why Bayonetta? Seems kind of odd to have a character like that stand amongst the likes of Sonic, Mega Man, and Pac Man.
 

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Alright, I'm just going to be honest. Another reason I don't like Krystal is because she reminds me of furries.
Not going to jump on you or anything, but there are cool furries. Not all of them are the weirdos that draw the cast of Star Fox banging the cast of Robin Hood. My fiance happens to be one, so I had to learn that pretty quickly. :laugh:
 

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How can Krystal not be in smash? She's far more unique than Wolf
Being unique doesn't automatically get a character into the roster. The characters importance to the series as a whole, and (I know I'll start something by saying this) whether or not the series deserves another character, I think, plays an important part as well.
 

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How can Krystal not be in smash?
Simple, Sakurai says "No."

She's far more unique than Wolf
Well, let's see.
Supporting character, or major antagonist?
The only thing she has going for her is being another female rep. That's it.
She isn't more or less unique with Wolf. She wouldn't bring anything new to the table that others haven't.
 
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So, considering you brought it up, why Bayonetta? Seems kind of odd to have a character like that stand amongst the likes of Sonic, Mega Man, and Pac Man.
I think Bayonetta would make sense as a character to represent Nintendo's mature side. They're funding Bayo2, and she'd make nice promotion.
Though honestly, she's more of a personal want than "I think she's going to be a lock", but I don't see her as impossible.
 

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Not going to jump on you or anything, but there are cool furries. Not all of them are the weirdos that draw the cast of Star Fox banging the cast of Robin Hood. My fiance happens to be one, so I had to learn that pretty quickly. :laugh:
Well, I know. But Krystal reminds me of the BAD stuff. I've seen some things, man.
 
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Simple, Sakurai says "No."


Well, let's see.
Supporting character, or major antagonist?
The only thing she has going for her is being another female rep. That's it.
She isn't more or less unique with Wolf. She wouldn't bring anything new to the table that others haven't.
This also applies to Dixie vs. King K Rool. (I want both in, though.)
 

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I think Bayonetta would make sense as a character to represent Nintendo's mature side. They're funding Bayo2, and she'd make nice promotion.
Though honestly, she's more of a personal want than "I think she's going to be a lock", but I don't see her as impossible.
Well, representing Nintendo's mature side is fine and all, as is promotion, but considering she's third party, it strikes me as odd that they would add someone like her in when third party character slots seem to be reserved for only gaming legends. Which makes sense, Smash is a game for fighting it out with your beloved Nintendo icons. If a character isn't from Nintendo, logically they'd have to be an icon to gaming itself as a whole, at least the way I see it.
 

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Being unique doesn't automatically get a character into the roster. The characters importance to the series as a whole, and (I know I'll start something by saying this) whether or not the series deserves another character, I think, plays an important part as well.
Sure, it deserves another character, it's still less than the Mario franchise, so Krystal has a very high chance, not adding her would be a big mistake to millions.
 

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You can hate on Krystal all you want, but she WOULD bring new things to the table.
She carries a staff that can cast elemental spells. Nobody does that.
And Wolf is a Luigified Fox, albeit very different, he doesn't bring anything extremely exciting.
 

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I think Bayonetta would make sense as a character to represent Nintendo's mature side. They're funding Bayo2, and she'd make nice promotion.
Though honestly, she's more of a personal want than "I think she's going to be a lock", but I don't see her as impossible.
3rd party characters should be legendary, which Bayonetta isn't. I mean she only has two games. Also that would make a second Sega character, which seems unlikely. Don't see why you can't just keep Snake.
 

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Sure, it deserves another character, it's still less than the Mario franchise, so Krystal has a very high chance, not adding her would be a big mistake to millions.
Millions? I know she's fairly popular, but she doesn't seem to be one of the most requested characters. And Star Fox is a kind of small series, and one that hasn't been very active as of late. I personally don't think Krystal is really necessary as a character, especially when there are other series like Metroid and Donkey Kong that are far more deserving of characters.
 

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Star Fox is pretty overrepresented as is, but the representation is admittedly perfect.
Also Krystal's popularity went WAY down on communities like this one.
Not to mention that even if we get a second SEGA character, it's gonna be Tails, not Bayonetta.
Eeehhhhhhhhhh....
 
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She carries a staff that can cast elemental spells. Nobody does that.
And Wolf is a Luigified Fox, albeit very different, he doesn't bring anything extremely exciting.
"Wolf can use various types of various laser weaponry, like sniper rifles, machine guns, and grenade launchers. Nobody does that."

Oh, but look what happened. :U The point is, (almost) any character (to a point) can be unique. But I'll admit, Krystal definitely lends herself more to being unique due to her staff and spells. Still, I'd rather not get yet another Starfox character when DK and Metroid are still lagging so far behind.

Sure, it deserves another character, it's still less than the Mario franchise, so Krystal has a very high chance, not adding her would be a big mistake to millions.
Your ignorance is simultaneously endearing and annoying. As a word of advice, you might want to evaluate your own opinions against reality before posting. It's a problem I've noticed with a lot of your posts, which often get immediately shot down and leave you seeming rather flustered and frustrated. I'm trying to save you some misery, not be a ****.

You're not making any points at all. Krystal still has very high chances, it doesn't matter that others such as Metroid and Donkey Kong are talked about like that, Those franchises don't need anything at all at this point.
This is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about.
 
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Well, representing Nintendo's mature side is fine and all, as is promotion, but considering she's third party, it strikes me as odd that they would add someone like her in when third party character slots seem to be reserved for only gaming legends. Which makes sense, Smash is a game for fighting it out with your beloved Nintendo icons. If a character isn't from Nintendo, logically they'd have to be an icon to gaming itself as a whole, at least the way I see it.
Precisely why she's more of a want than a prediction. Though, doesn't Nintendo own rights to everything Bayonetta 2 since they're funding it?

Not to mention that even if we get a second SEGA character, it's gonna be Tails, not Bayonetta.
It would be another SEGA franchise, most likely.
 
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Sure, it deserves another character, it's still less than the Mario franchise, so Krystal has a very high chance, not adding her would be a big mistake to millions.
What's your evidence?
No, really. I want to know.

Don't use your opinions as fact.
The game won't fall apart because one character isn't in. We can live.
It's like saying everyone will hate the game because Ridley isn't in.
Sure, some will be disappointed. But they wouldn't riot in the streets.

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You can hate on Krystal all you want, but she WOULD bring new things to the table.
I never said I hated Krystal.
I'm just saying we have enough, there's no point adding another Star Fox rep.
Especially at the expanse of others.

She carries a staff that can cast elemental spells. Nobody does that.
Staff, I see range.
We have characters that use range.

Elemental spells.
We have Zelda. Heck, one could say Megaman is a good example of that kind of moveset.

And to be fair that's saying she'll have the staff.
Sakurai barely bothered with Ganon's sword. Who's to say the same won't happen here?
And Wolf is a Luigified Fox, albeit very different, he doesn't bring anything extremely exciting.
Concept wise, that's another story.
But he does bring something with gameplay.
 

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Millions? I know she's fairly popular, but she doesn't seem to be one of the most requested characters. And Star Fox is a kind of small series, and one that hasn't been very active as of late. I personally don't think Krystal is really necessary as a character, especially when there are other series like Metroid and Donkey Kong that are far more deserving of characters.
You're not making any points at all. Krystal still has very high chances, it doesn't matter that others such as Metroid and Donkey Kong are talked about like that, Those franchises don't need anything at all at this point.
 

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Being unique is not going to be enough to get her in. Importance does play a role as well, and she isn't as important as the rest of the playable Starfox characters that have gotten in thus far. The Starfox series in Smash seems pretty set as it is with Fox, Falco and Wolf.

Krystal had a much better chance around Brawl's time. Back then, she was a far more popular character than she currently is, and the Starfox series was still an active franchise, yet, she didn't make in.
 
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You're not making any points at all. Krystal still has very high chances, it doesn't matter that others such as Metroid and Donkey Kong are talked about like that, Those franchises don't need anything at all at this point.
It's funny because they need their series need their antagonists and you're pushing for a fourth character in a series that doesn't need one.
 

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You're not making any points at all. Krystal still has very high chances, it doesn't matter that others such as Metroid and Donkey Kong are talked about like that, Those franchises don't need anything at all at this point.
You might get some backlash for that one

I'll admit, I'm a little perplexed by what you just said. Are you really saying that Star Fox needs a new character more than Metroid and Donkey Kong? Both of those series are significantly larger, and quite a bit more successful, than Star Fox, and have continued to have consistent releases over the recent years. Donkey Kong in particular just got a game recently, which from what I hear is getting some great reception amongst fans. Why do you say that those series, which only have a very small amount of characters representing them, don't need anymore, while Star Fox, who already has three characters, deserves Krystal?
 

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Being unique is not going to be enough to get her in. Importance does play a role as well, and she isn't as important as the rest of the playable Starfox characters that have gotten in thus far. The Starfox series in Smash seems pretty set as it is with Fox, Falco and Wolf.

Krystal had a much better chance around Brawl's time. Back then, she was a far popular character and the Starfox series was still an active franchise, yet, she didn't make in.
It doesn't matter, Krystal can still make it as playable. Yes, she has importance, because spoiler alert: Fox and Krystal eventually get married. And also, Sakurai already hinted Krystal to be playable in a smash taunt in Brawl when she says "What are you two thinking?!?! I'm the only one who can come around in a fight like this."
 
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