Character Discussion Thread

[Scoliosis Jones]

I mean at the moment. Like, they have an F-Zero game they would like to promote.
Please, leave me alone on this. It was an offhand remark.



I have absolutely no idea what you are saying at this point. Good night.



Which one? We are always arguing and people get on me for literally everything.



I agree. She's better written and actually her own character.

Though the prospect of having a Princess, Ninja, and Pirate Zelda in one game is strangely appealing.

The one about why people like characters. People like things for different reasons. Not just one.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Can we talk about Chibi-Robo? I feel like he doesn't get enough love?

 

[Kenith]

I think we should end the current argument. It's gotten so twisted and confused from what it originally stemmed from that I can't even comprehend what the argument is even about anymore.
Are Super Smash Bros. characters characters from other video games? Yes. Do they perfectly resemble the appearance and abilities these characters use/have in their own games? No. And such is to be expected from a crossover fighting game.
If, for example, MvC3 was perfectly true to scale and power, Hulk would destroy everybody, and Phoenix Wright would be a joke.

Thank you. Though I still say they technically aren't those characters because Smash Bros isn't canon. But whatever. This topic is irritating me.

Nice damage controlling. Again.

Just stop. You're just instigating me now.

The one about why people like characters. People like things for different reasons. Not just one.

...I dunno what's going on anymore. I'm so tired...

You guys have fun XD....seriously need to sleep.

 

[SuperBrawler]

Can we talk about Chibi-Robo? I feel like he doesn't get enough love?

Don't know anything about him. Is he unique?

 

[ChikoLad]

The one about why people like characters. People like things for different reasons. Not just one.

I never said that, in fact I made sure to list multiple reasons in the Mega Man example. My point was that characters get added because they are appealing in some way and add to the atmosphere of the game. This is fact, and I posted a quote that shows this. It's the deciding factor. Interesting movesets are a source of appeal, but they do not take priority over other sources of appeal, which is what people seemed to be saying before.

Though I still say they technically aren't those characters because Smash Bros isn't canon.

No, because Smash is not canon in the sense that it's a "What if?" scenario. The purpose is not to create new versions of a character and put them in new scenarios, it's to take the existing ones and put them in new scenarios that are inconsequential to their own franchise's lore. "Non-canon" is something that never actually happens within the official canon. This doesn't mean they have to be different versions of the character. With your logic, the Mario in every Mario game is a different Mario because Mario has little canon.

...I can't believe I had to explain that.

 

[?????????????]

Don't know anything about him. Is he unique?

Can we talk about Chibi-Robo? I feel like he doesn't get enough love?

Chibi-Robo would be pretty cool.

 

[SuperBrawler]

In the uniqueness tier list he is in S tier, behind only Lip and Zoroark. Nobody told me why Zoroark, Lip, and Chibi Robo were up there. Anyone know? I don't know much about them.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Regardless of whatever point was made, it really doesn't matter what moves they have. It's a representation of a character.

That's seriously it. Not everything is going to be consistent with the character because it wouldn't translate well.

I never said that, in fact I made sure to list multiple reasons in the Mega Man example. My point was that characters get added because they are appealing in some way and add to the atmosphere of the game. This is fact, and I posted a quote that shows this. It's the deciding factor. Interesting movesets are a source of appeal, but they do not take priority over other sources of appeal, which is what people seemed to be saying before.



No, because Smash is not canon in the sense that it's a "What if?" scenario. The purpose is not to create new versions of a character and put them in new scenarios, it's to take the existing ones and put them in new scenarios that are inconsequential to their own franchise's lore. "Non-canon" is something that never actually happens within the official canon. This doesn't mean they have to be different versions of the character. With your logic, the Mario in every Mario game is a different Mario because Mario has little canon.

...I can't believe I had to explain that.

The first part is partially why I wish people would brace themselves for Chrom.

 

[Kenith]

In the uniqueness tier list he is in S tier, behind only Lip and Zoroark. Nobody told me why Zoroark, Lip, and Chibi Robo were up there. Anyone know? I don't know much about them.

Zoroark is a shape-shifter, Lip is a puzzle character, and Chibi Rbob is a tiny robot with a plug in its back.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Zoroark is a shape-shifter, Lip is a puzzle character, and Chibi Robo is a tiny robot with a plug in its back.

Fixed

 

[?????????????]

In the uniqueness tier list he is in S tier, behind only Lip and Zoroark. Nobody told me why Zoroark, Lip, and Chibi Robo were up there. Anyone know? I don't know much about them.

Chibi-Robo would be fun for both gameplay and moveset. As far as gameplay goes, you could make a joke out of his size, much like Little Mac and Olimar. He is equipped with a blaster and copter, which make for obvious special moves, while his primary function is using ordinary objects to clean. It would be fun, for instance, for him to pull out a giant toothbrush to scrub opponents with, with the intent of cleaning them in mind but instead doing damage.

Zoroark has a lot of potential. As a Pokemon, he is Dark type, so that in itself has a pretty big movepool of attacks we have yet to see in SSB. Aside from that, Zoroark is known for it's trickery and Illusion ability. Many Dark-type moves play upon tricks and could have interesting translations into SSB, and the Illusion ability has a lot of potential incorporations.

Lip has many references to both her game and her character to work with. As she stands, she is a plant themed character, which opens her up to an elemental type of moveset of which we have yet to see. Special moves can make use of the functions present in Panel de Pon, such as garbage blocks. Meanwhile, many fancy the prospect of her using Lip's Stick, which has already been in SSB, as a gameplay aspect with similar functionality to the item; use weaker attacks that drain the opponent's health over time; a fighting style we have yet to see in Super Smash Bros.

 

[Starcutter]

There are too many likely characters for someone to accurately predict the roster

 

[3Bismyname]

And Classic Mega Man has never been rendered in 3D.

i know im a little late to the conversation but speaking as a Megaman fan, this just isnt true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5laB0GtJyI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0YEqt2B0_o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm7QrdaH15I

thats just off the top of my head. i dont wanna get into a fight i just wanted to correct you

 

[SmasherMaster]

I hope that if Chibi Robo is playable, he pull out large everyday items, like Rowling a toilet paper roll at. His opponents.

 

[UltimateWario]

Am I the only one who doesn't really care how unique a character's moveset is? I mean, as long as they have their own attacks that suit the character, I'm really more concerned with who the character is and how much they appeal to fans. Said character having a fun, unique moveset with a (non-intrusive) gimmick is just icing on the cake.

I mean, if we're going to make Smash based on moveset potential, the entire roster might as well just be Pokemon.

 

[3Bismyname]

he'd be a good addition, and id certainly welcome Chibi-Robo. he's just not my first choice. but im sure he'd be fun

 

[Hippopotasauce]

Am I the only one who doesn't really care how unique a character's moveset is? I mean, as long as they have their own attacks that suit the character, I'm really more concerned with who the character is and how much they appeal to fans. Said character having a fun, unique moveset with a (non-intrusive) gimmick is just icing on the cake.

I mean, if we're going to make Smash based on moveset potential, the entire roster might as well just be Pokemon.

You gotta have both dude.
Ridley playing like yet another space animal would be disgusting, and if Goomba was implemented and had the most mindblowingly unique moveset it wouldn't change the fact that he's still goddamn Goomba.
Plus if a character's not very unique there's not much incentive to play as them unless you're a fan of them.

 

[ihskeyp]

I would looove to see chibi in smash. One of my favorite Nintendo characters. The moveset potential is so large that it would hurt to see sakurai ignore it

 

[TumblrFamous]

I am still in shock over the Walking Dead.... wow.

Anyway, Chibi-Robo? Hell yah, he's one of my most wanted characters in the game.

 

[UltimateWario]

You gotta have both dude.
Ridley playing like yet another space animal would be disgusting, and if Goomba was implemented and had the most mindblowingly unique moveset it wouldn't change the fact that he's still goddamn Goomba.
Plus if a character's not very unique there's not much incentive to play as them unless you're a fan of them.

Hm. I suppose you're right.

Though, to be fair, a unique moveset or liking the character aren't necessarily the only incentives for playing a character. It also helps if they're high on the tier-list. -coughcoughmeleefalcocough- But, yeah, ideally, characters should have both. It's no coincidence that the Elite Four are all spectacularly popular and important and have amazing moveset potential.

 

[LaniusShrike]

Am I the only one who doesn't really care how unique a character's moveset is? I mean, as long as they have their own attacks that suit the character, I'm really more concerned with who the character is and how much they appeal to fans. Said character having a fun, unique moveset with a (non-intrusive) gimmick is just icing on the cake.

I mean, if we're going to make Smash based on moveset potential, the entire roster might as well just be Pokemon.

The main thing is that, in theory at least, you can have all these things in the same character, so why settle for less? You can have a unique character with a well-balanced, uniquely crafted moveset that represents them faithfully. And, yeah, that's what I want.

 

[Zynux]

@ UltimateWario
I understand what you're saying. As @ Hippopotasauce said, if Goomba had the most unique moveset in the world and have him score high on tournament tier-lists doesn't change the fact that it is quite literally the most un-hype character ever.

This is why I don't buy the mindset of "this character has a unique moveset, therefore he/she deserves to be in." A unique moveset is good, yes, but there is more to a character than that.

Of course, a balance of the two is desired.

 

[Joe D.]

Morning everyone, I have a small bit of info. Mr. Sakurai's current pic of the day basically confirms that there will be over 31 characters. I know that was probably obvious, but it gives more info on size at the least.

 

[MasterofMonster]

Morning everyone, I have a small bit of info. Badically, Mr. Sakurai's current pic of the day badically confirms that there will be over 31 characters. I know that was probably obvious, but it gives more info on size at the least.

Morning~ For many reasons, Sakurai's quite didn't confirm anything new at all. ^^ Plus, Brawl already had more than 31 characters.

Plus, he most likely meant the confirmed characters. Remember, he only posts five times a week anyways.

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

Regarding today's post, I think the "over a month of updates" only applies to the characters currently revealed. Think about it, with those characters alone, you've got 24 Final Smashes. That's already at least a month's worth of updates. That said, the only thing this shot really confirms is the Smash Ball's new look.

 

[Joe D.]

Morning~ For many reasons, Sakurai's quite didn't confirm anything new at all. ^^ Plus, Brawl already had more than 31 characters.

Plus, he most likely meant the confirmed characters. Remember, he only posts five times a week anyways.

I knew it was a bit obvious haha But I just felt like sharing. I know some people were concerned about the size of the roster being smaller, so I posted this Still, i'm calling around 45-50 characters.

 

[MasterofMonster]

I knew it was a bit obvious haha But I just felt like sharing. I know some people were concerned about the size of the roster being smaller, so I posted this Still, i'm calling around 45-50 characters.

Oh, I know, I was just saying. ^^ No worries. But yeah, I Think something like that will be most likely. Closer to 45, though, but we can Always hope.

It is Always nice when Sakurai talks about rosters and such, though. I really hope the next Newcomer isn't too far away.

 

[Cobalsh]

I am still in shock over the Walking Dead.... wow.

Anyway, Chibi-Robo? Hell yah, he's one of my most wanted characters in the game.

I know, man. Damn...

 

[FlareHabanero]

The first part is partially why I wish people would brace themselves for Chrom.

On the contrary, when looking for someone that can add to the atmosphere, Chrom ain't it.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

On the contrary, when looking for someone that can add to the atmosphere, Chrom ain't it.

I just mean the fact that Chrom has the recognizability to him. He's iconic. That very well may be what get.

I do think Robins chances are overstated.

 

[TempleofDreams]

I was thinking about K. Rool earlier, and I noticed that only R.O.B. and Ice Climbers does not use their full names, though they do have one. Despise being a very mediocre series, the cartoon (only in the German translation) revealed that K. Rool's name is Kroko. So... if he was confirmed, wouldn't it be weird to have the name of a character abbreviated in the SCC? If the developers wanted to have K. Rool's full name in the game, I think they should go with Kroko, or create a new one...

Also, I hate that King Dedede has "King" as part of his name in the SCC. They should keep that away from Rool's name.

 

[Deleted member]

Captain Falcon isn't "Captain Douglas Jay Falcon" in Smash.
Don't think "full names" matter.

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

I just mean the fact that Chrom has the recognizability to him. He's iconic. That very well may be what get.

I do think Robins chances are overstated.

Agreed. I think Robin has been getting a lot of hype here, and that's really making people overrate him.

 

[TheTuninator]

People place far too much value on a character's moveset potential. Each character's games offer plenty of potential for a unique moveset, no matter the character. All Little Mac can do is punch, and yet he looks to have a unique and fantastically fun moveset.

Similarly, even somebody like Chrom could be given a very unique moveset using things from Fire Emblem such as alternate skills, Pair Ups, unique weapons, etc.

If Sakurai wants a character to have a unique moveset, they will have a unique moveset. Captain Falcon has stood as ample proof of this fact since the very first game in the series.

 

[Zzuxon]

I would be hyped for Chibi-Robo, I think he'd be interesting.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

I also see Chrom being playable. It's not just that he's unique, he's also Fire Emblems "Recent Shining Star" of late.

Here's my theory. As far as Fire Emblem goes, Sakurai adds in Marth and the Recent Shining Star of the time. Roy was that Recent Shining Star at the time of Melee, but Ike at the time of Brawl, now it's Chrom.

But now that Chrom is stealing Ike's thunder lately, I'm worried about Ike getting cut, he was one of my best characters. I'm not saying we can't have Ike and Chrom too, it's just not likely considering that Sakurai cut Roy from Brawl.

 

[BluePikmin11]

A possible playstyle of Chibi Robo:

Chibi Robo has plenty of things going for him, he has his killer Chibi Blaster, his toothbrush which could "clean" a surface to trip an opponent, his Chibi-Copter for his recovery, and a plug move which would allow Chibi to temporarily raise his stats to maximum. His main playstyle would have to be charging. When the battle starts or when he's KOed, his battery goes dead, leaving him into a slow in overall stats. The key to mastering Chibi Robo is to effectively be patient when it's time to charge. You are able to attack and move a little while plugged in, and the plug does benefit you since it would prevent you from flying across the screen. Use the tooth brush to take ove rthe stage, as you can make up to 4 of these slippery floors. The Chibi-Copter is a slow recovery, and it sacrifices his battery, so don't overuse the move for whatever reason.

 

[Baskerville]

After TL and Lucario, I don't have any doubt Ike will be cut.

 

[Deleted member]

.....Are you saying you have no doubt about Ike being cut or about Ike not being cut?

It sounds like you're saying he will be.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

.....Are you saying you have no doubt about Ike being cut or about Ike not being cut?

It sounds like you're saying he will be.

Who? ME?
And yes, I kinda doubt that we can have both Chrom and Ike at this point.
But if you're talking about @ Baskerville s point of view, he's gone.