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Alright then. I'll just have to accept Bomberman has very little chance of happening compared to Rayman. I hate it how I'm always on the losing team, lol. (One more dream of mine to kill off, I suppose).I'd say popularity + legacy. Having a relationship with Nintendo doesn't hurt, but I don't think it's the end all be all.
All of Rayman's platforming games have been released on Nintendo systems so it isn't like he's completely disconnected. ()
K. Rool, Ridley, Shantae, Chorus Kids, Simon Belmont, Takamaru, Impa, most Pokemon... Basically everybody.
Do you know the first thing about characters like K. Rool if you write them off as having crap moveset potential?
I don't know whether to lol or smh.K. Rool, Ridley, Shantae, Chorus Kids, Simon Belmont, Takamaru, Impa, most Pokemon... Basically everybody.
Well, and Rayman and Bomberman. It's one of those "I don't hate you, I hate everybody" kinda things, so don't take it personally.
I'd hate it if they added like Goku or Naruto or Batman or something but I still concede they have moveset potential...
I've beaten most of their games and seen the dull and uninspired movesets created by fans, so yes.
You're a one of a kind.
Literally everything about Wario in Smash is made up from thin air except for the bike. What?
Going by that logic of sales, we should have gotten a Resident Evil character over Mega Man. And as for critical receptions; keep in mind that a lot of Sonic games in recent years are of mixed, if not poor receptions so that's likely not going to keep Bomberman out.Rayman has sold more.
More critical success too, most Bomberman games get average marks. So basically quality vs. quantity.
And you think Sakurai can't do better than fan movesets?
Not many. Sora from Kingdom Hearts is one, if they found loopholes in the "no transformations" thing to make Drive Forms work. Then there's this obscure indie character named Gunvolt... Basically, his powers work on electricity represented by a meter that can instantly be recharged with the press of a button. He has other gimmicks too, like what's essentially lock-ons for his electric powers and infinite double jumps so long as he has the meter for it. He'd be interesting because you would need to make space to recharge, and going for attacks when low on energy would be risky if he had some % on him because his recovery works off the same meter.
No, but when have so little to work with, you often can't make anything out of it. See Chrom and almost Mac. Mac only got in because somebody told Sakurai a "white man can't jump" joke and he applied it to him, otherwise he'd still be an AT.
, , and all had the general idea of how they'd play long before Sakurai revealed them.
"So little to work with?" Right... it isn't like moveset potential is a big reason why fans want these characters. We're all just imagining this moveset potential out of thin air.
I've caught every Kalos native Pokemon, 100%ed Rayman Ledgends and Origins, beaten basically every Metroid five times minimum, beaten three Zeldas with just three hearts and 100%ed the rest, beaten every level in the DKC series, and own all but two pre-Lords of Shadow Castlevania games, and I'm a hater? This is even worse then the guy who thought I hated Dark Pit even though I'm like one of three regulars of his board and have my KIU avatar and Dark Pit as one of my mains.
...Most of these characters have more "moveset potential" than any other candidate.K. Rool, Ridley, Shantae, Chorus Kids, Simon Belmont, Takamaru, Impa, most Pokemon... Basically everybody.
Well, and Rayman and Bomberman. It's one of those "I don't hate you, I hate everybody" kinda things, so don't take it personally.
Well, looks like you have no problems with Bandana Dee. It can't be a coincidence that Kirby stuff fits in Smash so well
Is hating everybody fun?K. Rool, Ridley, Shantae, Chorus Kids, Simon Belmont, Takamaru, Impa, most Pokemon... Basically everybody.
Well, and Rayman and Bomberman. It's one of those "I don't hate you, I hate everybody" kinda things, so don't take it personally.
or , since they're so... plain? 
My many DHD movesets and ideas were pretty spot on. Take that, detractors!
Before DHD was confirmed, did anyone suggest that he could use things from other Zapper games in his moveset?My many DHD movesets and ideas were pretty spot on. Take that, detractors!
Yes. In fact, I did.
Our prophet has shown himself
I specifically remember thinking the other day:
Batman would be great. By far my favourite character in Injustice, if you've ever played that.
I'll tackle both of these since it's a similar thing.Is hating everybody fun?
For serious though, does it mean you dislike most of the movesets in Smash then, particularly characters who were added early, like
Because Ridley is totally going to be playable ever after what Sakurai said, or K. Rool after Sakurai made his character inclusion guidelines.
Watch the first SSB direct and you'll see Sakurai talk about how it was hard to make a moveset for Mac.what
Tell me, how would a Mac moveset work if you exclusively had real boxing stuff? Boxers don't soar through the sky, no aerials or recovery. THAT'S would makes it tough
Remember when Sakurai said Villager wasn't in Brawl because he wasn't a fighting character. You know what happened, we got Villager in the new Smash and also Wii Fit Trainer, both of them don't fight. Sakurai contradicts himself and goes back on his word a lot. Sakurai said that characters/series with seemingly no future would be lower priority. K. Rool still has a future because the Donkey Kong Country Returns games are a thing. Yes, he hasn't appeared in Returns or Tropical Freeze but Retro is not opposed to using the character, they made the new villains because they wanted to separate themselves from the Rare games. Since King K. Rool's popularity has boomed, K. Rool is probably the most likely character to get in Smash (barring Wolf since he's a veteran).
I had to spend 12 years selling the idea of Duck Hunt Dog as a playable character to people on Nsider, NinDB, and SmashBoards... turns out Sakurai only had to force feed the idea to the detractors for them to finally "get" what I was talking about.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't know where this design philosophy of yours stems from, but for me, I really depends on the final result. Does a character's moveset work tier-wise, it is faithful to the character and importantly, is it fun to play? That's all that really matters to me.
Funny... about succinct phrases, mine for Meowth is "claws and coins".I think we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't know where this design philosophy of yours stems from, but for me, I really depends on the final result. Does a character's moveset work tier-wise, it is faithful to the character and importantly, is it fun to play? That's all that really matters to me.
I don't know why there has to be a succinct phrase to describe a character's moveset, honestly. In designing a character, you look at what abilities they provide and then look for a niche to fill, and design the actual moveset around that. Many characters simply add a niche for themselves.
The reason you don't find that coherence in fan movesets, because, let's face it, most of us are not professionals at this, and not everyone is a competitive player. That's why most fan movesets can come across as hodge-podge of ideas instead of being based around a single concept. This is a not a problem for Sakurai, and limitations in fanbase's imagination never was and should never be a barrier for Sakurai, (heck, it is part of the reason he's revered) and shouldn't affect chances.
Looks like Team Rocket is blasting off again!!!Funny... about succinct phrases, mine for Meowth is "claws and coins".
Meowth for Smash! That's right!
That happened to me when I said Wolf shouldn't come back. .-.
Why do you believe so, just wondering.
We don't need 2 fox clones... Falco is enough.
2 friends of mine don't think Wolf will come and they deliberately use Fox's new purple costume to make me upset.
Here we go..
