Character Discussion Thread

[Wolfie557]

Jesus Christ, not Geno AGAIN!!!

He's owned by Square Enix, has little to no bearing whatsoever on the Mario franchise, and after Super Mario RPG only made an appearance in Superstar Saga where they blatantly said they got him from Square Enix, and then no one ever speaks of him again.

I'd rather talk about Ridley....or Bayonetta. Much more interesting.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LEGITIMATE FOR THE GLOBAL ONE, I was just noting a view at what Impa's japanese uspport may very well be in power at this point. So.

Did I say he was impossible anywhere in that post?
No.
I was noting that he doesn't meet pre-established conditions we've seen in the characters who HAVE gotten in off of one game.
Magikarp isn't impossible either. And is probably more iconic.

WELL YOU SHOULD ALSO NOTE THE WESTERN REDDIT POLL.

Because.....GLOBAL.

 

[Kenith]

Cuz square
We can get more than 1 square Enix character also sakurai is going to choose not square Enix and not a lot of people asks for FF or DQ character so Geno makes a bigger hype for people than them because he didn't appear in any game since 19 years

Ryu wasn't highly requested by any means, but look at how much people were hyped for him.
The general populace would be MUCH more hyped for Cloud than Geno, even if the former isn't highly requested. You are epically overstating his fame.

 

[Burruni]

I'd rather talk about Ridley....or Bayonetta. Much more interesting.

WELL YOU SHOULD ALSO NOTE THE WESTERN REDDIT POLL.

Because.....GLOBAL.

As much as people could argue how botted that poll was, fine.
http://i.imgur.com/yR2ZPCq.png
Impa wasn't even on there either.

But the ranking of Reckless Wiimote Safety Man alone is one of the reasons that lead to people tending to overlook this.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

I'd rather talk about Ridley....or Bayonetta. Much more interesting.

Yes, I agree on Ridley over Geno since Ridley's actually owned by Nintendo.

I would like to see Ridley in Smash, but there IS a limit to that sort of propaganda.

Bayonetta on the other hand would be a second SEGA representative, so I wouldn't like that. Even if I just HAD to pick a second SEGA rep, it would be someone from Shin Megami Tensei since SEGA owns Atlus, but I'm not counting on that either.

 

[Geno Boost]

Ryu wasn't highly requested by any means, but look at how much people were hyped for him.
The general populace would be MUCH more hyped for Cloud than Geno, even if the former isn't highly requested. You are epically overstating his fame.

Sure cloud can do more hype but I don't see a lot of people happy about this because he is sony and I don't think Nintendo will like this

 

[Wintropy]

Y'know, I think it's interesting.

There are characters that appear for a brief time and then ride off into the sunset, never to be seen again.

There are characters whose essential abilities remain static and never evolve to any notable degree.

There are characters who, by virtue of being a secondary character, will forever be relegated to second banana status.

There are characters for whom "recurring NPC" is a great honour.

And then there's Anna.

A character who, despite being a secondary character in every game she's ever appeared in, may well be even more iconic and well-known than most of her native series' main heroes, and who just gets more intricate and fleshed-out with every subsequent iteration.

As long as Fire Emblem exists, Anna will exist too.

Anna is a shining star: distant and mysterious, yet constantly growing bigger and brighter, awaiting the climactic moment when she will explode and create new worlds in her magnanimous wake.

Anna is love.

Anna is life.

And no, just to clarify:

We indeed cannot get enough of Anna.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I don't know if that is a fair comparison...Geno shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Ridley, honestly, despite his problems.
Also, at least Ridley has been outright mentioned and acknowledged.
Super Mario RPG has yet to get any Smash content, at all, ever. (last time I checked)

Actually:

There is the Peach Fry Pan referencing the pan you get from Super Mario RPG.

 

[Champ Gold]

So.
A low-request character of more recognizability and more history is going to cause less hype than a mildly well requested one from a niche community after not being seen for 19 years?

Pretty sure caused more hype than .

People got hyped because they mistaked for and people thought "LOL SAKURAI TROLLED US. HE'S SUCH A CRAZY GUY"

Outside of that then Greninja rarely brought that hype. never brought any because Smash wasn't as big as it is now.


Although brought more confusion than ever could

 

[Burruni]

Y'know, I think it's interesting.

There are characters that appear for a brief time and then ride off into the sunset, never to be seen again.

There are characters whose essential abilities remain static and never evolve to any notable degree.

There are characters who, by virtue of being a secondary character, will forever be relegated to second banana status.

There are characters for whom "recurring NPC" is a great honour.

And then there's Anna.

A character who, despite being a secondary character in every game she's ever appeared in, may well be even more iconic and well-known than most of her native series' main heroes, and who just gets more intricate and fleshed-out with every subsequent iteration.

As long as Fire Emblem exists, Anna will exist too.

Anna is a shining star: distant and mysterious, yet constantly growing bigger and brighter, awaiting the climactic moment when she will explode and create new worlds in her magnanimous wake.

Anna is love.

Anna is life.

And no, just to clarify:

We indeed cannot get enough of Anna.

With Anna getting that puppeteer class, I wish I had the skill to make some satirical art thing of her stringing along Geno.

People got hyped because they mistaked for and people thought "LOL SAKURAI TROLLED US. HE'S SUCH A CRAZY GUY"

Outside of that then Greninja rarely brought that hype. never brought any because Smash wasn't as big as it is now.


Although brought more confusion than ever could

HYPE IS STILL HYPE. PEOPLE MISTAKING A CHARACTER FOR ANOTHER DUE TO THEIR HANDS AIN'T MY PROBLEM.

 

[Kenith]

Sure cloud can do more hype but I don't see a lot of people happy about this because he is sony and I don't think Nintendo will like this

Because Snake was widely hated for being "too Sony" wasn't he?

 

[Diddy Kong]

As much as people could argue how botted that poll was, fine.
http://i.imgur.com/yR2ZPCq.png
Impa wasn't even on there either.

But the ranking of Reckless Wiimote Safety Man alone is one of the reasons that lead to people tending to overlook this.

At least she's the only widely requested Zelda character, and that puts her at a relatively better spot than others who are not so highly voted.

 

[Burruni]

Geno too old and insignificant of a Square Enix character?
Cloud Strife too Sony to be a good candidate?
LOOKS LIKE I KNOW THE PERFECT SOLUTION.

Appeared in as many MARIO games as Geno as well as far more recently, an icon for the series from NES to current gen, and one with enough of a grouping to create a damn creative moveset in Super Smash Flash 2!

 

[Diddy Kong]

Geno too old and insignificant of a Square Enix character?
Cloud Strife too Sony to be a good candidate?
LOOKS LIKE I KNOW THE PERFECT SOLUTION.

Appeared in as many MARIO games as Geno as well as far more recently, an icon for the series from NES to current gen, and one with enough of a grouping to create a damn creative moveset in Super Smash Flash 2!

I wouldn't even be upset. It's not like I support Black Mage, but he makes far more sence than anyone else from Square.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Geno "isn't impossible" in the sense Slippy Toad isn't impossible.

I still think Black mage or a bravely default character would be a better Square character (although it isnt like we desperately need to fill a quota)


also on Impa replacing Shiek.

a 3-time vet from THE zelda game (aka the one everyone thinks about) or a character who has huge overlap (ninja) who has only very recently (the wii) began to have some time to shine.

I would be ok with both but outright getting rid of a fully unique vet in favor of someone who may or may not remain important and has already had her popularity drop more severely than most fanbases . . .

no thanks.

 

[Geno Boost]

Because Snake was widely hated for being "too Sony" wasn't he?

He started in a Nintendo console so that didn't make Nintendo disappointed (don't say "but sonic" because he met Mario)

 

[Burruni]

I support Black Mage, he makes far more sense than anyone else from Square.

I'll add you to the supporters list for the Smash 5 thread.

 

[TallT]

though why they haven't sold the Mario RPG characters back to Nintendo is beyond me

Because why buy old relic characters that only appeared in one game and only a small number of people are asking for when you can easily just make new ones.

It really isn't smart from a business perspective and is why Geno is as good as dead.

 

[Champ Gold]

He started in a Nintendo console so that didn't make Nintendo disappointed (don't say "but sonic" because he met Mario)

Actually he started on the MSX and one of the MSX notable manufacturers is Sony so in technicality Snake is more Sony than than anyone else.

 

[Geno Boost]

Actually he started on the MSX and one of the MSX notable manufacturers is Sony so in technicality Snake is more Sony than than anyone else.

He got a game on the GameCube at least but cloud was just in kingdom hearts instead of final fantasy 7 on Nintendo console

 

[Burruni]

He got a game on the GameCube at least but cloud was just in kingdom hearts instead of final fantasy 7 on Nintendo console

Edit: And up there in the top right just below Moogle is Shantotto the "flagship" character for FF11, a Tarutaru Black Mage.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Geno "isn't impossible" in the sense Slippy Toad isn't impossible.

I still think Black mage or a bravely default character would be a better Square character (although it isnt like we desperately need to fill a quota)


also on Impa replacing Shiek.

a 3-time vet from THE zelda game (aka the one everyone thinks about) or a character who has huge overlap (ninja) who has only very recently (the wii) began to have some time to shine.

I would be ok with both but outright getting rid of a fully unique vet in favor of someone who may or may not remain important and has already had her popularity drop more severely than most fanbases . . .

no thanks.

Except no character outside of Impa has ever really had a revival role as Impa. With her revival being in the very beginning of the franchise, as Skyward Sword was intended to do, and it being the 25th year aniversary celebrated in a game, this is no small feat. Skyward Sword was a revolutionary title in the Zelda franchise. Or at least it intended to be.

Sheik is pretty much dead in Zelda, only Hyrule Warriors could keep her alive. Impa is just brough alive, and just became playable in Hyrule Warriors which combined her two most famous incarnations in one design. Keep in mind that only Link, Zelda, Sheik and Ganondorf got new designs in this game, but also Impa.

We might need to wait before Zelda Wii U for it to happen, but Impa is quickly becoming a Zelda All Star. I could very well see her being playable in the mainline series to one day.

 

[AncientTobacco]

Hey guys what's going on he-

Oh. Geno. Again. How exciting.

 

[Geno Boost]

I knew someone will post this but this is not enough for cloud I am saying a game where does cloud appear as a main character or something big in a Nintendo console like FF characters from 1 to 6

 

[Aetheri]

He started in a Nintendo console so that didn't make Nintendo disappointed (don't say "but sonic" because he met Mario)

How long before he brings up Sonic again as an argument?

 

[Burruni]

Except no character outside of Impa has ever really had a revival role as Impa.

If we wanna talk about REVIVAL roles...

Edit:

I knew someone will post this but this is not enough for cloud I am saying a game where does cloud appear as a main character or something big in a Nintendo console like FF characters from 1 to 6

Cloud is one of the fairly small selection of characters you can make into a team. He's an option to use but not required and has as much impact on the story as any other of the playable characters.

And the fact that this game got a sequel of the same basic circumstance puts him two of these roles.

You said that he appears JUST in Kingdom Hearts and FF7. Which was false.

 

[Kenith]

I saw a poll with 3000+ votes that had Wolf Link and Midna as the highest rated Zelda character ...I keep trying to find evidence of them being supported but I get mixed messages.
Now I know that whenever I bring them up you all collectively roll your eyes, but I only ask because I want a definite answer...

 

[YoshiandToad]

Actually:

There is the Peach Fry Pan referencing the pan you get from Super Mario RPG.

Perfect. SMRPG is already represented. As big a representation as SMB2 got with the turnips too.

 

[Kenith]

If we wanna talk about REVIVAL roles...

I swear, if Ganon is ever added his newcomer tagline NEEDS to be "Game Over: Return of GANON"

 

[AncientTobacco]

If we wanna talk about REVIVAL roles...

Where's that picture from? Looks fricking amazing.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Perfect. SMRPG is already represented. As big a representation as SMB2 got with the turnips too.

No, we need Birdo to represent Super Mario Bros. 2, because without Super Mario Bros 2 there wouldn't be a Super Mario Galaxy so thank Birdo for that game.

Vote for the irrelevant dinosaur that made all of your favorite Mario games happen just by appearing in the game before!

What do you mean by Mario representing Super Mario Bros 2 just fine?
We need Birdo the blockbuster behemoth beauty to represent this everlasting classic.

Oh and Peach's float is from SMB2 just sayin.

 

[Burruni]

Where's that picture from? Looks fricking amazing.

It's someone's fan art, taking the classic NES screen into more of his Oracles look.
http://purenintendo.com/2014/10/13/pn-featured-artist-jorge-velez/ Here's the source.

 

[Kenith]

It's someone's fan art, taking the classic NES screen into more of his Oracles look.
http://purenintendo.com/2014/10/13/pn-featured-artist-jorge-velez/ Here's the source.

Wow. He also made this

Pretty great.

 

[Burruni]

I swear, if Ganon is ever added his newcomer tagline NEEDS to be "Game Over: Return of GANON"

His newcomer trailer.
"Evil Reborn."

 

[Rockaphin]

Actually:

There is the Peach Fry Pan referencing the pan you get from Super Mario RPG.

That or this

Spoiler

 

[Burruni]

That or this

Spoiler

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH GAME & WATCH GALLERY REPRESENTATION!

Waluigi 4 Smash!

 

[Diddy Kong]

I saw a poll with 3000+ votes that had Wolf Link and Midna as the highest rated Zelda character ...I keep trying to find evidence of them being supported but I get mixed messages.
Now I know that whenever I bring them up you all collectively roll your eyes, but I only ask because I want a definite answer...

That must be the results from one fan page. I've seen several results of polls with Impa being the only Zelda character. If Wolf Link + Midna would've ever happened, it was with Brawl. I personally supported them for Brawl, also at the expense of Sheik (lol). But now with the Midna AT..? I wouldn't expect her anytime soon. Still think Impa is easily Top Tier as far as Zelda DLC characters go.

 

[Rockaphin]

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH GAME & WATCH GALLERY REPRESENTATION!

Waluigi 4 Smash!

I have no idea why none of the Game & Watch stages have any music from these games.

 

[FalKoopa]

Actually:

There is the Peach Fry Pan referencing the pan you get from Super Mario RPG.

There's more, actually.

Peach's AAA combo, the slaps, is also lifted from there. And so is her heart power.

 

[Wolfie557]

Y'know, I think it's interesting.

There are characters that appear for a brief time and then ride off into the sunset, never to be seen again.

There are characters whose essential abilities remain static and never evolve to any notable degree.

There are characters who, by virtue of being a secondary character, will forever be relegated to second banana status.

There are characters for whom "recurring NPC" is a great honour.

And then there's Anna.

A character who, despite being a secondary character in every game she's ever appeared in, may well be even more iconic and well-known than most of her native series' main heroes, and who just gets more intricate and fleshed-out with every subsequent iteration.

As long as Fire Emblem exists, Anna will exist too.

Anna is a shining star: distant and mysterious, yet constantly growing bigger and brighter, awaiting the climactic moment when she will explode and create new worlds in her magnanimous wake.

Anna is love.

Anna is life.

And no, just to clarify:

We indeed cannot get enough of Anna.

I want either Anna or Tiki.

Don't care who or why just one of them. They will be great magical FE reps who are also recurring.

Geno too old and insignificant of a Square Enix character?
Cloud Strife too Sony to be a good candidate?
LOOKS LIKE I KNOW THE PERFECT SOLUTION.

Appeared in as many MARIO games as Geno as well as far more recently, an icon for the series from NES to current gen, and one with enough of a grouping to create a damn creative moveset in Super Smash Flash 2!

Eh. It will always be DQ> FF for me and therefore DQ rep> Black Mage.

 

[Wintropy]

I want either Anna or Tiki.

Don't care who or why just one of them. They will be great magical FE reps who are also recurring.

This one gets it~ :3

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but they're the only non-protagonist characters to appear in an important (i.e. in the story itself / not as bonus content) role in more than one game that is not itself a sequel to another game.

In a series like Fire Emblem, that's pretty huge.

EDIT: Oh yeah and they're not blue-haired swordfighters and all that jazzmatazz, which, in Fire Emblem, is also pretty huge~