Character Discussion Thread

[A Distant Demon]

Third party wish list in no real order

Wonder Red

friend Wonder red is 101% bonafied 1st party nintendo owned property < 3

 

[Morbi]

Third party wish list in no real order

Bayonetta with Jeanne alt
Wonder Red
Rayman
Snake
Shantae
Earthworm Jim (unrealistic as all get out but I think he would be a nice fit)
Rocket Slime/Slime/ Jessica Albert/ someone from DQ
Doc Eggman
Chun Li
Dig Dug guy.

Honestly, for me, I do not care about third-party characters. I enjoy them, but I never really knew I wanted Ryu until Ryu was a possibility. Sakurai has to shove them down my throat. There is only one third-party character that I actively support, and that is Banjo. That is just one of my old childhood dreams though. I do not expect it to happen. Albeit, I did not expect Ryu either. So while everyone on your list is cool, I would not want any of them unless they had a reasonable chance.

Chun Li would be hilarious though.

 

[Wintropy]

friend Wonder red is 101% bonafied 1st party nintendo owned property < 3

May he join his fellow masked superhero in Nintendo Valhalla.

R.I.P. Captain Douglas Jay Falcon

1990 - 2014

"HYEZS!"​

 

[Wolfie557]

hahah. one must love twitter.

 

[Wolfie557]

Third party wish list in no real order

Bayonetta with Jeanne alt
Wonder Red
Rayman
Snake
Shantae
Earthworm Jim (unrealistic as all get out but I think he would be a nice fit)
Rocket Slime/Slime/ Jessica Albert/ someone from DQ
Doc Eggman
Chun Li
Dig Dug guy.

ye....wonder red is 1st party.

Platinum doesn't own any IP's as far as my knowledge goes.

 

[PushDustIn]

Keep in mind, that poll is also exclusively Japanese from 2005. A lot has probably changed since then.

Maybe if we're lucky, @ PushDustIn will look into the current ballot support characters have in the East, since unless I'm mistaken, the most recent survey on the matter was taken in February.

I know a lot of people want me to look at support. I'll try my best to find time to start research. Right now I'm managing ~12 writers and translators for Source Gaming. Got a lot of projects in the works!

 

[Pakky]

Third party wish list in no real order

Bayonetta with Jeanne alt
Wonder Red
Rayman
Snake
Shantae
Earthworm Jim (unrealistic as all get out but I think he would be a nice fit)
Rocket Slime/Slime/ Jessica Albert/ someone from DQ
Doc Eggman
Chun Li
Dig Dug guy.

Thank you all for the correction, didn't know Wonder Red was first party, gonna revise the list then.

Bayonetta with Jeanne alt
Nightmare/Taki/Mitsurugi/Ivy
Rayman
Snake
Shantae
Ryu Hayabusa/ Kasumi
Rocket Slime/Slime/ Jessica Albert/ someone from DQ
Doc Eggman/Metal Sonic
Chun Li
Dig Dug guy.

 

[Iko MattOrr]

Probably I already posted this in the past, I can't remember. Anyway, what do you think about Bowser Jr's Koopa Clown not being able to fly?
It still bugs me a bit, and I'd like if in Smash 5, they would change his second jump to Peach's
This way, he would be able to float mid-air for a couple of seconds, and well, it still won't be a flying machine, but at least this way the fact that it has a propeller on the lower side would be more coherent.
I think it would make the character a bit more interesting as well, since it's very different than Peach, and he would use the floaty jump for completely different strategies.
What do you think?

 

[Burruni]

Probably I already posted this in the past, I can't remember. Anyway, what do you think about Bowser Jr's Koopa Clown not being able to fly?
It still bugs me a bit, and I'd like if in Smash 5, they would change his second jump to Peach's
This way, he would be able to float mid-air for a couple of seconds, and well, it still won't be a flying machine, but at least this way the fact that it has a propeller on the lower side would be more coherent.
I think it would make the character a bit more interesting as well, since it's very different than Peach, and he would use the floaty jump for completely different strategies.
What do you think?

Balance.
As Junior's one of my main 4 in rotation, I am more than fine about how he is.
If that becomes a buff he gets in Smash 5, hooooly hell he's going to jump about 10 placements in tiering.

 

[Aetheri]

Probably I already posted this in the past, I can't remember. Anyway, what do you think about Bowser Jr's Koopa Clown not being able to fly?
It still bugs me a bit, and I'd like if in Smash 5, they would change his second jump to Peach's
This way, he would be able to float mid-air for a couple of seconds, and well, it still won't be a flying machine, but at least this way the fact that it has a propeller on the lower side would be more coherent.
I think it would make the character a bit more interesting as well, since it's very different than Peach, and he would use the floaty jump for completely different strategies.
What do you think?

Bowser Jrs not the only one...

 

[Wolfie557]

So today, this game released in North America SEVENTEEN years ago.

why do gaming 'icons' have to be old for?!

 

[Burruni]

So today, this game released in North America SEVENTEEN years ago.

why do gaming 'icons' have to be old for?!

They don't have to be old.
They have be from running, large series that are recognizable to mass population.
Simply said, they have to be iconic.
Phoenix Wright, despite starting late GBA, could be argued to be an icon.
They're icons of the N64 era, but not the spectrum of gaming.

Edit: As we have currently and in the past had 3rd Party choices, they are icons that shaped gaming as we know it.
& are on the par of Micky Mouse or Santa for the raw iconicism.
being the old rival to who arguably started the Console Wars as we know them who lasts to this day for the infamous and widespread fanbase.
being THE fighting game character, the series that go to being one of the first cases of head to head multiplayer in a game that wasn't getting more points or being faster in a race, competitive co-op.
the series that defined stealth/action as the genre as it is now. The damn cardboard box and ! alert alone are iconic.
"Megaman respawning enemies," the fact that it's a term that is used so commonly in gaming and people just know it as a common term alone should say enough on that.

As a FAN of them, the only truly revolutionary thing to come out of Banjo-Kazooie was Tooie being one of very few sequels in the history of gaming that is a direct continuation of a past game and lets you retain all of your abilities and they just don't have that level of raw recognizably.

Series like Final Fantasy, Castlevania, arguably Bomberman are on this level. Banjo-Kazooie's 4 games just aren't that tier.

 

[Pakky]

Bowser Jrs not the only one...

Also
However Ridley can't be in the game because he's flight would be compromised... Lol Sakurai is amazing. That's why he makes the big money.

 

[TallT]

So today, this game released in North America SEVENTEEN years ago.

why do gaming 'icons' have to be old for?!

I agree with Burruni

They do not have to be old. They usually are older because their games withstand the test of time and are adored by fans for generations after they originally debut.
An example of a character that became a gaming icon in just 2-3 years .

 

[LightheartedBum]

likely

Hah, isn't that gif in your signature from Alpharad? That moment made me laugh so hard. Immediately sent the clip to a few friends.

EDIT: To the K Rool picture: gross

 

[A Distant Demon]

Bowser Jrs not the only one...

In pit/dark Pit's defense 5 minutes of flight and boosted stats would probably be really obnoxious to program, and,honestly kind of silly in the first place with Palutena being a fighter

why couldnt they both get a green titn so my headcanon of Viridi letting them fly be true

EDIT: To the K Rool picture: gross

can I get some elaboration?

 

[BluePikmin11]

The article is here.
https://sourcegaming.wordpress.com/2015/06/29/the-case-for-bayonettaspt1/

 

[LightheartedBum]

can I get some elaboration?

He's all... I mean, look at his wacked out eyes! And his... He's all fat... He probably smells... Ew.

 

[Burruni]

I think that's Fire Rosalina. Robin has the White Mage alt, and casts Arcfire like a White Mage.

@Swampertrulz (About your signature) Now I know what she is saying. For some reason I thought she was just surprised that she won so she said: Oh! I won!

While I said earlier about it definitely being a nod to White made due to being an inverted version of the Fire Rosalina design...

The way that Robin casts arcfire is a direct reference to the cast animation from the GBA games.

This being the longer version for a crit.

 

[A Distant Demon]

He's all... I mean, look at his wacked out eyes! And his... He's all fat... He probably smells... Ew.

You run around the jungle stealing from apes. You would get some nasty BO too.

He doesnt look anymore "gross"than any other cartoon villain to me.

 

[LightheartedBum]

He doesnt look anymore "gross"than any other cartoon villain to me.

I dunno, man. Just the first thing that popped into my head.
But now, the more I look at him... Oh, eugh...

 

[Deleted member]

In pit/dark Pit's defense 5 minutes of flight and boosted stats would probably be really obnoxious to program, and,honestly kind of silly in the first place with Palutena being a fighter

More like in their defense they can't bloody fly on their own.

 

[Bowserlick]

I think that if Bowser wins after Bowsersiciding, then in the victory screen half-the-face of his opponent should be slowly sliding down the King Koopa's plastron.

This is to anticipate MK's Scorpion as a guest character and the subtle hints at horrible violence that will come.

 

[Deleted member]

And to anticipate Freddy Fazbear as a guest character, DK should pull a jumpscare in the victory screen if he manages to win after Kongocide.

 

[Bowserlick]

Wow, I just performed a Bowserside on Pit, and half his face (the bad half) was gliding down Bowser's abs leaving a trail of gray matter.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Wow, I just performed a Bowserside on Pit, and half his face (the bad half) was gliding down Bowser's abs leaving a trail of gray matter.

Out of context this sounds like the words of a psychopath.

In context im not sure yet.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I think that if Bowser wins after Bowsersiciding, then in the victory screen half-the-face of his opponent should be slowly sliding down the King Koopa's plastron.

This is to anticipate MK's Scorpion as a guest character and the subtle hints at horrible violence that will come.

So Bowser beat up Marco? (I'll leave now.)

In pit/dark Pit's defense 5 minutes of flight and boosted stats would probably be really obnoxious to program, and,honestly kind of silly in the first place with Palutena being a fighter

Palutena is the ultimate Pit counterpick. lol.
She determines weather he recovers or not.

 

[Bowserlick]

No one, after a sucessful Bowsercide, imagines a rumbled terrain far below the stage where both fighters landed... The dust thins and clears, leaving behind a crater filled in by rocks. Spikes ascend through the grit, stirring up more dust, and then rocks hurl upwards in a geyser as Bowser emerges covered in earth. Blood smears his plastron, but he does not smile. He wipes a palm over his face, looks out into the sunset and walks away as if this is simply a morning ritual. In the gutter... the crater lies a mangled corpse.

No one thinks this?

 

[Burruni]

No one (after a sucessful Bowsercide, imagines a rumbled terrain far below the stage where both fighters landed... The dust thins and clears, leaving behind a crater filled in by rocks. Spikes ascend through the grit, stirring up more dust, and then rocks hurl upwards in a geyser as Bowser emerges covered in earth. Blood smears his plastron, but he does not smile. He wipes a plam over his face, looks out into the sunset and walks away as if this is simply a morning ritual. In the gutter... the crater lies a mangled corpse.

No one thinks this?

Nobody does.
Because he'd die from the impact too.

 

[Bowserlick]

Nobody does.
Because he'd die from the impact too.

No, he landed on a cushion of flesh and blood.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Nobody does.
Because he'd die from the impact too.

He survived falling into the sun. The thing doesn't die.

But I still have to agree. (I really don't need that mental image right now.)

 

[BKupa666]

Yes.
And K. Rool was the single most requested newcomer. With Krystal in second.

See, I can buy that K. Rool and Krystal are the most requested newcomers overall...but there could be a difference between most requested and highest vote-getting. You could have K. Rool and Krystal being loved by everyone, but only being their third, fourth or fifth most requested behind someone else, maybe a third party or someone random like Daisy. It'd be worth investigating for the sake of comparing the two sets of data, in any case.

 

[POKEMANSPIKA]

So I've made a Donbe and Hikari thread, but I can't figure out a moveset for them (its quite hard considering no one's ever translated Shin Onigashima). Also working on a Goku thread (YUYUKI NOT DBZ), and having trouble making a shaolin/bo staff style with kung fu incorporated.

I'll be updating this later. If anyone wants to give me suggestions, it'd be much appreciated.

 

[Ura]

There's no way Krystal is higher than Isaac in terms of being requested. Even if that was the case, Wolf being the frontrunner of Star Fox DLC reps and Sakurai being limited to a certain amount of characters ensures that Isaac is higher up in the DLC food chain then her.

As for other frontrunner characters, I can see Daisy, Bandana Dee, and Chibi Robo being right up there with the frontrunners. My prediction for tbe ballot is that one of the 3 characters I mentioned will join Isaac and K. Rool as the winners of the Smash Ballot.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

There's no way Krystal is higher than Isaac in terms of being requested. Even if that was the case, Wolf being the frontrunner of Star Fox DLC reps and Sakurai being limited to a certain amount of characters ensures that Isaac is higher up in the DLC food chain then her.

As for other frontrunner characters, I can see Daisy, Bandana Dee, and Chibi Robo being right up there with the frontrunners. My prediction for tbe ballot is that one of the 3 characters I mentioned will join Isaac and K. Rool as the winners of the Smash Ballot.

Rayman got extremely popular thanks to @HextupleyooDOT. Shauntae got extremely popular thanks to WayForward continuously asking for, and hinting at, her inclusion. I definitely don't see Daisy or Chibi Robo being up there with Isaac and K. Rool. Bandanna Dee, I can. The two I mentioned are definitely way up there in the Ballot. Rayman, like I said, thanks to ArtsyOmni. Shauntae, oh man. Not only do we have WayForward and Shauntae fans voting for her, we also have the entire Etika base after he mentioned that's who he'd vote for on stream and then you have her Smashified. It's safe to say that Shauntae is pretty high up in the Ballot despite her lacking fanbase here on SmashBoards.

 

[Geno Boost]

Yeah, but how can you possible equate Geno, a one-off character from a game not made by Nintendo, and the licensing forced the character to be owned by its developers, as opposed to the main antagonist of a long-running franchise whose most recent game was as recent as 2008, but regardless he still appeared in 4 as a trophy and is far, far more requested?

Cuz SMRPG is important in Nintendo history

 

[Talpr1]

I really doubt that Super Mario RPG is more important to Nintendo history than the entire Donkey Kong series.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Super Mario RPG is a cult classic, I'll give you that. It doesn't, however, hold a candle to either of the other Mario RPG series'. We'll most definitely see a character from Paper Mario or Mario & Luigi before we see Geno.

I won't deny that, if Sakurai keeps his word, there is a small possibility we could see him appear from the ballot. He doesn't seem all that popular anymore, though, so he is even more unlikely.

Edit: A little late but, welcome back @ Morbi .

 

[Geno Boost]

Super Mario RPG is a cult classic, I'll give you that. It doesn't, however, hold a candle to either of the other Mario RPG series'. We'll most definitely see a character from Paper Mario or Mario & Luigi before we see Geno.

I won't deny that, if Sakurai keeps his word, there is a small possibility we could see him appear from the ballot. He doesn't seem all that popular anymore, though, so he is even more unlikely.

Adding paper Mario and fawful before Geno is like adding Yooka-laylee before banjo-kazooie nothing beat the original also I have seen a lot of people that have been voting for Geno

 

[YoshiandToad]

Adding paper Mario and fawful before Geno is like adding Yooka-laylee before banjo-kazooie nothing beat the original also I have seen a lot of people that have been voting for Geno

Adding Paper Mario before adding Geno is more like adding Knuckles the Echidna before Mighty the Armadillo.

One may have appeared before the other, but his incredibly minor appearances don't hold a candle to a character that is well reknown with far more appearances.