Cutie Gwen
Lovely warrior
Have to call you out on something dear. That game got 2 sequels despite fans not liking it that much
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Burruni
Smash Hero
And the Fairy Odd Parents live action film got 2 sequels
Fans don't always get to stop terrible decisions.
Cutie Gwen
Lovely warrior
I was moreso talking about how SE doesn't like making good games. Also, did that really get sequels? Better yet, does it still have fans? Besides, SE prefers announcing games than making them. XIV is proof
IceBreakerXY
Universal Champion
i haven't been able to find anything with sakurai talking about Geno besides a fake article.Anyway it's been stated before and i'll just restate it.Geno has no change.Why?Because look at the 3rd party characters we have.
4 of the biggest if not THE biggest stars in the video game industry.Everyone and there grandmothers can atleast reconiginze these 4.Now we have Geno.A charactef from 1 game.Who hasn't been seen since.Who own company wants nothing to do with.He has no real fame outside of the hardcore gaming community and while we count.You forget the casual also makes up i say about 50% of the ballot.He's has a 0.001% change only because he is techinally apart of the mario universe.Here's a better question why get geno when you can get a character like simon belmont,rayman,spyro the dragon,hell i even say shovel knight is more likely.
Look geno is a charracter who the majoirty doesn't care about.so @
Geno Boost
if you could ever so kindly move this debate to your thread or take it to pm's that would be nice
4 of the biggest if not THE biggest stars in the video game industry.Everyone and there grandmothers can atleast reconiginze these 4.Now we have Geno.A charactef from 1 game.Who hasn't been seen since.Who own company wants nothing to do with.He has no real fame outside of the hardcore gaming community and while we count.You forget the casual also makes up i say about 50% of the ballot.He's has a 0.001% change only because he is techinally apart of the mario universe.Here's a better question why get geno when you can get a character like simon belmont,rayman,spyro the dragon,hell i even say shovel knight is more likely.
Look geno is a charracter who the majoirty doesn't care about.so @
Geno Boost
if you could ever so kindly move this debate to your thread or take it to pm's that would be nice
Burruni
Smash Hero
It's not that they don't like making them.
It's that they've taken some very questionable moves with the series that a significant amount of the fanbase has been upset to outraged by.
For me, 12 was the breaking point.
I claim it's a cost of them always chasing the highest level of graphical fidelity and losing a fair amount of the feeling for the series.
15 doesn't look any better to me.
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Cutie Gwen
Lovely warrior
With questionable moves, Final Fantasy All The Bravest is the only thing needing mention to get your point. Didn't they whine about very successful games being failures in their eyes?
Schnee117
Too Majestic for Gender
Original Tomb Raider reboot.
Now it's sequel is a timed exclusive on Xbox. It's this stupidity that makes me doubt any SE characters in Smash for a while now.
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Burruni
Smash Hero
Never heard about that.
But Bravely Default being the massive success it is while being much akin to the classic FF titles says something in and of itself.
Black Mage for Smash
all that jazz
Square Enix has made some dumb choices.
Not Konami or Capcom tier stupid choices.
But still pretty stupid.
That said, Final Fantasy is the next "logical iconic series with strong Nintendo memories" to fit the theme of
& and... in an inverted way if you ask me.
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Cutie Gwen
Lovely warrior
feex~
WeirdChillFever
Smash Hero
"Don't compare Geno to first parties like that, that's unfair!"
Few minutes later
"B-B-But Ice Climbers!!"
Few minutes later
"B-B-But Ice Climbers!!"
Cutie Gwen
Lovely warrior
FFATB costs 5 bucks. You have to wait a full minute or so after attacking. To get new characters you wait even more. Unless you buy a character for 1 buck each. It's randomized so the chance of having you're favourite is low. Only gameplay is tapping the screen every few minutes as you don't seem to be able to target enemies, the AI does what it wantsNever heard about that.
But Bravely Default being the massive success it is while being much akin to the classic FF titles says something in and of itself.
Black Mage for Smash
all that jazz
Square Enix has made some dumb choices.
Not Konami or Capcom tier stupid choices.
But still pretty stupid.
That said, Final Fantasy is the next "logical iconic series with strong Nintendo memories" to fit the theme of
Burruni
Smash Hero
And this is what we have to look forward to with Capcom and Konami going mobile.
Schnee117
Too Majestic for Gender
And with SEGA's mobile games there are advertisements all over the place.
"Watch this ad if you want to revive"
Burruni
Smash Hero
Plants vs Zombies 2.
It is SAD when EA is one of the BETTER HANDLED games for a platform.
Cutie Gwen
Lovely warrior
Lots of gaming companies are trying to rip people off and make money.
Nintendo tries to release solid games to make money.
^Nintendo if it was a woman
Schnee117
Too Majestic for Gender
Lots of gaming companies are trying to rip people off and make money.
Nintendo tries to release solid games to make money.
^Nintendo if it was a woman
Eh they're going into shady areas with the amiibo and I really don't like the whole idea of Pokemon Shuffle.
Burruni
Smash Hero
"Why buy Splatoon for $60 when TF2 is free?!"Lots of gaming companies are trying to rip people off and make money.
Nintendo tries to release solid games to make money.
^Nintendo if it was a woman
"Because all the DLC and updates are free. I know that there are THOUSANDS of TF2 players who have spent hundreds if not close to a thousand on a free game."
Inklings for DLC.
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Cutie Gwen
Lovely warrior
Oh yeah, Shuffle's a thing. Forgot about that. At least the primary focus is actual AAA games. Amiibo is inexcusable though
Hats. Hats everywhere. At least the hats in Splatoon are free
Schnee117
Too Majestic for Gender
Aside from the Amiibo exclusive costumes.
Burruni
Smash Hero
The way I see it.
Amiibo are collector statues sold at, what, $13 US?
Which is still half the cost of a "cheap" Nendroid.
And you get some bonus content in games.
BluePikmin11
Akko is my dear daughter!
Guys if you guys are going to keep saying never, the Geno debate is still going to continue, I agree with Boost that it isn't never impossible, but he still has a long way to go to get in.
Cutie Gwen
Lovely warrior
Except Boost thinks he's likely. Saying Geno has 5% chance is generous enough, especially as Sakurai said 'icons only'
AncientTobacco
Smash Lord
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Burruni
Smash Hero
Those faces still plague nightmares.
Geno Boost
Smash Master
How about pit in brawl he isn't the same as any of the forgotten character that we gotThose "dead" or "forgotten" characters are SPECIFICALLY CHOSEN as quirky retro characters to embody a gimmick or moveset. And all but
It isn't comparable. Period.
And there's nothing that makes him "easiest to use" because he's part Mario.
If anything. a character in Mario Sports Mix would be because the rights to use them has been fairly recent, and a REPEATED usage in a Mario game. Slime from Fortune Street, the FF characters from 3 on 3.
They used him in super Mario-kun comics and MLSSS and he is a part of Nintendo so he is easy to be used than ff character and DQ character
SMRPG was more important in Nintendo history than fortune street and Mario sport mix
Sakurai didn't say that
Give the game a chance you shouldn't say it's bad already
These polls are not official things
I dont care if you want him or not
he can come back to life it's not impossible
To be honest I will be very happy if he get at least got a trophy in ssbBecause when most people think SE these days they assume the following:
A. Crappy modern FF games like 13.
B. MS and Sony associations (
C. Kingdom Hearts, Tomb Raider and Deus Ex.
Not many take into account the SNES era (which mattered with
Geno's support is from SMRPG. That's it. And it's been decaying since Brawl. The fact he hasn't made a major appearance since then as a third party is really damning for him.
If he were the easiest Square character to get he would have been in the Mario spin-offs Square made wouldn't he? Instead we get DQ and FF characters like Slimes, Black Mages, Ninjas, Moogles, White Mages and Cactuar.
Square Enix doesn't want to bring him back after 19 years in a small game like sport do you think people would be happy if they saw crono coming back in a sport game instead of huge game? No same goes for Geno
Cutie Gwen
Lovely warrior
I highly doubt Inklings will become DLC but they are pretty much guaranteed for the next game
Those ****ers made me dream again. On one hand, I should be grateful. On the other hand, 'ink' everywhere. Why the **** weren't they called Paintlings or something?
I think Geno is cool and all, but some popular indie character with a Nintendo presence is certainly no worse a choice than a largely one-shot third-party supporting character from a game that came out nearly twenty years ago.
I do agree he would stand a better chance if the ballot released in 2006-08 though.
Geno Boost
Smash Master
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I never said he is likley i said he is just possible
Small chances or bigger chances I would still be very happy if geno gets at least a trophy in smash but this character was in the poll since melee so it's not really impossible because he did something to Nintendo history he can be playable in smash if sakurai wanted tooi haven't been able to find anything with sakurai talking about Geno besides a fake article.Anyway it's been stated before and i'll just restate it.Geno has no change.Why?Because look at the 3rd party characters we have.
4 of the biggest if not THE biggest stars in the video game industry.Everyone and there grandmothers can atleast reconiginze these 4.Now we have Geno.A charactef from 1 game.Who hasn't been seen since.Who own company wants nothing to do with.He has no real fame outside of the hardcore gaming community and while we count.You forget the casual also makes up i say about 50% of the ballot.He's has a 0.001% change only because he is techinally apart of the mario universe.Here's a better question why get geno when you can get a character like simon belmont,rayman,spyro the dragon,hell i even say shovel knight is more likely.
Look geno is a charracter who the majoirty doesn't care about.so @
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Schnee117
Too Majestic for Gender
Pit is still first party and you said not to compare Geno with first party characters.
We've been over the comics and the minor cameo already.
Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy VI.
Yet all third party characters so far have been gaming icons. Geno is far from being an icon.
And you're already saying it's good despite not seeing any proper footage.
Nor are the polls you mentioned for SSB4.
With Geno any recent appearance would help him (he doesn't need a big, dramatic return) and the spin-offs SE made were his best chances. They were squandered in favour for FF and DQ characters instead.
Wintropy
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It'd be great if we could debate Anna or Wonder Red or something new that we never cover. I don't think I've ever so much as seen an Anna detractor.
cuz she purrrrfect~
Bias? Yes, please, I'll take mine to go.
cuz she purrrrfect~
Bias? Yes, please, I'll take mine to go.
Cutie Gwen
Lovely warrior
I remember someone saying Anna should be playable in every single FE from now on to warrant a spot. Lo and behold, she not only brings Ninjutsu but she's got some killer stat growths (70 mag 90 luck when changed to a Tactician)
YoshiandToad
Smash Hero
The only real thing against Anna is she's another Fire Emblem character(which doesn't matter), another swordsman(which also doesn't really matter) and that she's probably not popular enough to win the ballot right now to get into Sm4sh(which does matter).
There's certainly far worse choices for 5mash's FE character though.
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Schnee117
Too Majestic for Gender
She uses far more than Swords though as FE:Fates shows.
Everything but Axes from what I've heard. And she's still the RNGoddess apparently.
Cutie Gwen
Lovely warrior
First of all, screw the 'muh swords' argument
Second, Anna also wields bows, staves, tomes, concealed weapons(ninjutsu) and I think she still has lances
Burruni
Smash Hero
Anna's issues are in that she hasn't made too major of a role in any one game and... well... saturation of FE on the current roster. If we're going to only get 1 FE newcomer in Smash 5, I wager she's more likely than a protag from FE15/16 since Fates is going to be fairly old news for the series comparatively.
Wonder Red is the best character with little hope because of how poor his game ended up doing. If we get a big seller W102, totally behind him.
Schnee117
Too Majestic for Gender
Here's all I need for Wonder Red to be perfect.
A proper Vorkken alt. Not a costume. A full on alt voiced by Quinton Flynn.
A proper Vorkken alt. Not a costume. A full on alt voiced by Quinton Flynn.
WeirdChillFever
Smash Hero
FE: Fates question: What are hidden weapons?
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