Character Discussion Thread

[Pakky]

By the way, did anyone else notice what Sakurai said about Roy and Lucas?

He hoped that we would enjoy them, especially since those two in particular were so popular...

It would seem that their massive fan demand is responsible for bringing the two back. Wonder how that may impact future DLC...

Hopefully smart choices and none that pertain to things that are already highly oversaturated in Smash.

Wolf please Sakurai. Speaking of Wolf what about the Panther guy from Star Wolf as fighter in instead of Krystal?

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

I have a question for users with both Wii U and 3DS versions, will you get DLC for both versions or one version only?

Personally I'm getting characters for both versions, stages for Wii U version only (except Suzaku Castle because bundle), and I'm not getting Mii costumes at all.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Pls, I just want my DLC

 

[Pakky]

Is Sukapon still a thing?

 

[A Distant Demon]

Is Sukapon still a thing?

not really no.

Last time I heard news of him was that he was planned as an item in melee.

 

[Scamper52596]

I have a question for users with both Wii U and 3DS versions, will you get DLC for both versions or one version only?

Personally I'm getting characters for both versions, stages for Wii U version only (except Suzaku Castle because bundle), and I'm not getting Mii costumes at all.

I'll be getting all the DLC for both versions. I still like to play Smash on my 3DS from time to time.

 

[Dragoncharystary]

I have a question for users with both Wii U and 3DS versions, will you get DLC for both versions or one version only?

Personally I'm getting characters for both versions, stages for Wii U version only (except Suzaku Castle because bundle), and I'm not getting Mii costumes at all.

I get stages and fighters on both versions. I also don't get mii costumes.

Edit: So I finally got the update, still been trying to get the fighters and no luck.

 

[BluePikmin11]

"Of the many fighters from past versions, I hope fans are happy with these two that were pretty popular"
TBH, I don't think this means we'll get strictly popular characters yet.
He was just pointing out that those guys were just popular, out of all the veterans who were cut in the game.

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Only reason I don't get stages on the 3DS version is because I don't play it much anymore...

Also finally got to the eShop!

EDIT: Damn, it's currently on maintenance.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Who the **** thought it was smart to make you have to do everything all over again if it's too busy? Three times have I nearly gotten to 'confirm purchase' just to have a crash

 

[Pakky]

not really no.

Last time I heard news of him was that he was planned as an item in melee.

He was a sticker in Brawl

 

[Dragoncharystary]

I was able to get Roy so I think things are calming down.

 

[Fatmanonice]

At least we know more content is coming in August so we may not need to wait too long for another character announcement.

 

[Diddy Kong]

"Of the many fighters from past versions, I hope fans are happy with these two that were pretty popular"
TBH, I don't think this means we'll get strictly popular characters yet.
He was just pointing out that those guys were just popular, out of all the veterans who were cut in the game.

Wolf is about as popular as them. I still think it's a safe bet we'll still see him make it back in. He just released 3 characters at once, 2 of them serving as a "surprise". I think it's great that both Roy and Lucas are back. But am not expecting the whole slew of veterans to be put back as you did previously... Speaking, has your stance already changed? Is Young Link still likely in your eyes?

 

[BluePikmin11]

With the moveset change Roy had, Young Link feels a bit more likelier his chances to me are like 25% now. (5% from last time)

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

By the way, did anyone else notice what Sakurai said about Roy and Lucas?

He hoped that we would enjoy them, especially since those two in particular were so popular...

It would seem that their massive fan demand is responsible for bringing the two back. Just like Mewtwo, I'd imagine. Wonder how that may impact future DLC...

I hope he still adds the rest of the veterans.
Speaking of which, I spent last night working on this. It's an attempt to declone Young Link. I was going for a combo based Young Link as opposed to the power based Link and the projectile based Toon Link. Any constructive criticism is appreciated, and any people getting mad at me for doing Young Link... well that's not appreciated. Anyway, here it is:
(It's not that big, but spoiler box just in case)

Spoiler

Young Link from Melee to ssb4! (Red is nerfs green is buffs, and blue doesn't change things)
The first and last hit of Young Link’s Jab deal less damage
Infinite Combo now has a finisher.
Forward Smash is now a stab, making it easier to KO with
Down Smash is now a spin, which gives it less ending lag.
It now has deals an even amount of damage, and is significantly stronger because of it.
Dash Attack has more KO power
It has more ending lag
Forward Tilt is a horizontal slash, and doesn’t as have much vertical distance
It has slightly more range
Up tilt is now an uppercut of sorts.
It is faster, and has more combo ability.
It doesn’t hit behind him.
Forward Areal hits lower on the first hit, allowing for it to hit easier, and combos into the second hit which can now KO at high percents.
The first hit on the forward areal deals less damage, and the second hit does more damage, but it deals less damage overall.
The move must now hit with both hits to receive much knockback, making it easier to punish.
Back Areal is faster
Up Areal has more KO power.
Pummel deals less damage.
Young Link has a new back throw; he turns around and slashes the opponent.
This has more KO power.
It also deals more damage.
Fire Bow sets the ground on fire when the arrow lands, allowing for combos if an opponent steps on it.
The arrows deal less damage.
Spin Slash has slightly better vertical recovery.
Bombs are now hit a couple times before launching opponents, allowing for combos.
The bombs do a lot less damage.
Young Link now has a Final Smash. The Fierce Deity.
Anything not mentioned stays the same.

 

[Dragoncharystary]

I managed to get Lucas. Now I have to try for Ryu and Dream Land, then I'll be done. Anyway, I'm guessing the next wave of DLC will come in August. Probably coming with Wolf, Tourney Mode, Peach's Castle, Hyrule Castle, and another character.

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Is Young Link still likely in your eyes?

He is possible, but Wolf, Squirtle, Ivysaur and Pichu are more likely in my opinion. Snake and ICs are debatable due to what's been happening on Konami recently (and Kojima leaving) and problems with 3DS. I personally would rather not have him though, I feel he is unnecessary with Toon Link already in the game (At least Lucina and Roy aren't another versions of Marth).

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

There's no way this can go hilariously wrong...

Bubsy the Bobcat confirmed!

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

From likely to least likely in my opinion...




Dunno where to put Snake on this list so I'll just put him here.

 

[False Sense]

I still believe the only likely veteran is Wolf, at this point. He simply has everything going in his favor, and he's the next logical step after the three veterans we have now.

All the other veterans either have technical issues, or simply don't have the demand to warrant a return.

 

[Dragoncharystary]

Ok I got Dream Land and Suzaku castle on the 3DS version and there is a now a second page of stages.

 

[Arcadenik]

So Ryu plays like a traditional fighting game character being extremely combo oriented, has multiple projectiles, and the longest stunning move in the game. There's no way this can go hilariously wrong...

Do you remember KumaOso and SmashChu having debates over this way back in 2010?

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Yeah, I also think that Wolf is the last veteran were going to get. The rest don't either have enough demand () or have something else against their inclusion ().

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I can't downloqd the update for some reason

 

[BluePikmin11]

We always mention likely in this thread.
We should use has a shot, good shot, can go either way more often here.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Do you remember KumaOso and SmashChu having debates over this way back in 2010?

I don't know about that, but I did remember KumaOsa saying that Pac-Man wasn't fighter material a while back. Good times.

 

[ToddCam]

I bought it. It tells me I already downloaded. What the hell?

 

[Diddy Kong]

With the moveset change Roy had, Young Link feels a bit more likelier his chances to me are like 25% now. (5% from last time)

But don't you know Young Link already got moveset changes!? From Melee to Brawl he got a new Neutral Air, Forward Air, Back Air and he became floatier!

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Not sure anymore whether to get all three characters to both versions or Wii U version, as I barely play 3DS version anymore (I did get Mewtwo for both though). I would save 3.00€ if I get them for Wii U version only.

 

[Talpr1]

If the download of the DLC aborts, does the e-shop eat my money? I need to know so i can start downloading without regrets.

 

[BluePikmin11]

The jokes aren't funny anymore.
It's getting irritating.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Do you remember KumaOso and SmashChu having debates over this way back in 2010?

That was around the time I took an extended hiatus from this site. 2010-2012 I was rarely on here. I didn't start reguarly posting again until January 2013 when Sakurai pretty much confirmed Smash Bros was going to be at that E3.

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

The jokes aren't funny anymore.
It's getting irritating.

I don't see any jokes on this page (except Azure Warrior's post about Bubsy).

 

[ToddCam]

The jokes aren't funny anymore.
It's getting irritating.

What jokes?

 

[FalKoopa]

lol.

"I'm the real Roy around here!"

Feels good when a joke comes full circle, doesn't it?

 

[BluePikmin11]

Guys, you already know what I'm talking about:

But don't you know Young Link already got moveset changes!? From Melee to Brawl he got a new Neutral Air, Forward Air, Back Air and he became floatier!

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Guys, you already know what I'm talking about:

Toon Link could very well be considered as Young Link's spiritual successor. But I can see your point, they're not really the same.

 

[FalKoopa]

Guys, you already know what I'm talking about:

That isn't a joke though.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Toon Link could very well be considered as Young Link's spiritual successor. But I can see your point, they're not really the same.

That isn't a joke though.

its still rude to say every time young link gets brought up.

its getting annoying for me too. And i dont even want YL

the less character specific insults the better

EX and every time roy was brought up